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Old Aug 17, 2009, 10:12 PM // 22:12   #21
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Thanks for sharing Sac, I might give it a shot.

Red Rock candy should definitely help you lose all the aggro.
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Old Aug 20, 2009, 07:42 PM // 19:42   #22
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Just ran a test run through the whole dungeon and I must say that it works like a charm =D
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Old Aug 21, 2009, 04:38 PM // 16:38   #23
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Just cuz I love proving sac wrong... it's totally possible to still get to duncan even after dying 2-3 times. If you bring a red rock + full conset, for the most part you can outrun the touchers. There's some special points (down the steps b4 the big room, the far corners of the big room) where they touchers generally won't continue to chase you. If by any chance you died whilst in the big room and have spawned all the touchers there are... just take your time and find the groups of stone summit and try DC'ing to the rangers, and continue running around the bend in the southwest corner and keep running towards duncan, pull of the DC, and everything should be on the edge of your aggro bubble. If I had a picture it would be easier to explain lol...
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Old Aug 22, 2009, 06:02 PM // 18:02   #24
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When your a sin and you go to doomlore and you see another sin running Slavers you dont start spamming your own add for 2k cheaper. You run something else or dont run at all.
I really hate seeing undercutters, a lot of poeple don't seem to have any respect for other peoples runs.

Nice guide, I used to run this a lot, using a similar build. You don't have to kill both groups in Forges room, just aggro Forges group, lure them towards the back as far as they will lure, and the other group wont aggro you.
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Old Aug 25, 2009, 02:57 PM // 14:57   #25
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hi
Ive done duncan+3 of the bosses
but I couldnt do thommis because he just deals me 60 dmg every hit, and there are modniir's that get agroed and its just too much to handle

can you explain more
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Old Aug 26, 2009, 02:44 PM // 14:44   #26
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Ive done duncan+3 of the bosses
but I couldnt do thommis because he just deals me 60 dmg every hit, and there are modniir's that get agroed and its just too much to handle

can you explain more
the majority of runners out there do Thommis like a VSF and do not charge the people they are running. In NM with the essence popped from doing Rand, you don't need anti-kd or anything since you can just fly past the modniir.
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Old Aug 31, 2009, 08:32 PM // 20:32   #27
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I just tried running Duncan NM
but duncan's "whatever you deal him, he deals it back" skill dealt me too much damage when I used ebsoh
So I had to kill duncan with gole+stoneflesh+sliver
It took me around 10 mins to kill

does anyone know how can duncan deal more damage back in nm than hm?
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Old Aug 31, 2009, 08:42 PM // 20:42   #28
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Coz you are dealing him more dmg in NM .
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Old Aug 31, 2009, 09:02 PM // 21:02   #29
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Qcho is right - you have to remember that in nm foes are weaker and hm they are a lot stronger and this often means 1 build that works in nm may not work as well in hm - tho at times a few work better in hm than nm ( 600/smite best in hm for eg ).
So in nm you could hit him for 100 dmg but in hm it may be say 50 dmg from same skill.
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Old Sep 01, 2009, 05:59 AM // 05:59   #30
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the damage difference isnt that drastical
in hm, I deal 7 damage with sliver without ebsoh, in nm I deal 9 damage
but in hm I get 0 damage with ebsoh+stoneflesh+sliver
in hm I get 1 damage with stoneflesh+sliver

something is wrong
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Old Sep 01, 2009, 07:22 AM // 07:22   #31
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Shadow Form is not broken after all!

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Old Sep 02, 2009, 03:31 PM // 15:31   #32
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Ummmm I'm still not sure how to do this, since it's an essence every run , can someone give abit more details about how to do Duncan and maybe link a video? I only found 1 video on youtube called "16mins duncan HM" , but it doesn't have any touchers trying to touch, probebly from before the touch bug was fixed, are there any videos after the fix or pics?

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Old Sep 02, 2009, 04:40 PM // 16:40   #33
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I really hate seeing undercutters, a lot of poeple don't seem to have any respect for other peoples runs.
Charging monopoly money to get people through the game? I'll undercut it and do it for free every time. This is not the only way to make money in the game, it's not the best way to make money either, and it makes me wonder why people even bothered to buy this game if they don't want to play it.

I don't mean to single you out or anything, that just my opinion on the current state of running in the game, it's nice that such means exist to complete areas or unlock outposts on another char to make the campaign go smoother, as it is a challenge to be able to solo a dungeon, ANY dungeon, and a personal accomplishment. But to turn that into a business venture... it shows the unfortunate trend of players in this game just looking for an easy way out of being between a rock and a hard place.

There was a time when running to Drok's was easy, and Anet cared about the state of game and changed it to make it more difficult for players to skip 4/5 of the game. I wonder what they will do when Shadowform can do a remarkably larger amount of content and is more detrimental to it than a few warriors skipping down through Lornar's.

To OP, gz on getting through it.
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Old Sep 07, 2009, 12:57 PM // 12:57   #34
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Tried the build today, worked great.

Rand - Super easy
Selvetarm - Super easy, altho I got bombed 2 times because of death nova
Forge - ^Same
Duncan - Died the first time because of a big mistake, didnt really know what to do when i was at Duncan's spawning place, getting back to the place was hard and died couple of times but I had DP removal with me so I could still complete it after a few times.
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Old Nov 22, 2009, 07:05 PM // 19:05   #35
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Thanks for the guide...

I am having problems killing rand stormreaver and whenever i try to kill the distracter, cleaver, etc i run outta energy. My assassin's energy is 56 right now is that good enough? o_o

Also, if someone is willing to show me how to do it, post it here i'll check back and also, i'll provide the con

Thanks,
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