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Dag A · Jan 15, 2010, 07:38 PM // 19:38

I meant for it to say it is as fast or faster than manly spike but I made a mistake sorry man. I will just go die now

Essence Snow · Jan 15, 2010, 07:51 PM // 19:51

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Originally Posted by Schnellburg

@Essences Snow: Ask anyone that was in the SCAR guild or SCAR alliance when we were testing those builds. There are atleast 100 people that can confirm it. Plus proof means nothing anymore, all builds have been discovered, all people are doing these days is changing a skill here or there and re-branding it with their own name.

You make me laugh....lol..proof means nothing?...lol..as for asking someone that was in a guild/alliance..whether or not they should get credit for something....ofc they r going to say yes....that's a no brainer. To get credit for something u have to share it......that's just the way things work...even if ya'll did come up with it 1st...sry bout your bad luck for not getting credit... might want to post it nxt time, if u want credit. Maybe not in this instance, but in general, new builds/skill balances changing the way various skills work make it hard to believe that newly posted builds using skills that have been changed where already invented. This alone makes new undiscoverd builds possible.

Schnellburg · Jan 15, 2010, 08:03 PM // 20:03

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

You make me laugh....lol..proof means nothing?...lol..as for asking someone that was in a guild/alliance..whether or not they should get credit for something....ofc they r going to say yes....that's a no brainer. To get credit for something u have to share it......that's just the way things work...even if ya'll did come up with it 1st...sry bout your bad luck for not getting credit... might want to post it nxt time, if u want credit. Maybe not in this instance, but in general, new builds/skill balances changing the way various skills work make it hard to believe that newly posted builds using skills that have been changed where already invented. This alone makes new undiscoverd builds possible.

And all the builds have been discovered, the last skill balance was what 5 months ago? You tell me there are still new builds being discovered right now? Yeah if you think that, then your living in a dream world. And tbh I could care less about getting credit for it. I didn't create it, I only helped test it. And proof does mean nothing, I can say I created the 600/smite builds, and even link it on PvX/GwG, and people would be like no I created it. So tell me how Proof means anything?

Essence Snow · Jan 15, 2010, 08:58 PM // 20:58

The world was flat until proven to be round. The earth was the center of the solar system until proven it wasn't. Flight was impossible until proven it could be done.

Proof means nothing..is about the most fail arguement I have seen in a long time.

The definition of "proof": the cogency of evidence that compels acceptance by the mind of a truth or a fact b : the process or an instance of establishing the validity of a statement especially by derivation from other statements in accordance with principles of reasoning....it's in the definition.....lol
If that doesn't help ya im sry..helping you is beyond me.

Schnellburg · Jan 15, 2010, 09:30 PM // 21:30

Were talking proof in a game, not in real life applications. Don't stray out of context. Again I can go back and say I am the real creator of Sabway/Discordway/whateverway you wanna come up with. I can even go as far as to post builds, and defend them. The proof that what he posted is redway is easy to see, and alone with a couple of people posting that it is redway is not proof enough? All he did was drop an Ele for a Warrior, and called it his own.

His builds consist of Ether Prism, Tenai's Crystals, Crystal Wave, BuH. And omg Redway consists of those skills too! Those are the basis for the two builds, all he did was drop 1 PBAoE for another, and slapped his name on it. Not exactly too creative if you ask me. That would be like me taking Dayway, and dropping Aura of Resto for Fire Attunement and calling it Hauntedway.

The only proof he has is that he says he created this builds, I simply linked another thread that is from 4 months ago, and said they have already been discovered. How much more proof do you desire? I'm not saying the builds are bad, they won't work, let alone even asking for credit to be given to the right person, I'm just stating they have been discovered.

Dag A · Jan 15, 2010, 09:42 PM // 21:42

Sir I have never been in SCAR guild ever in my life, and I have never heard of redway until I posted this so thanks

Schnellburg · Jan 15, 2010, 09:45 PM // 21:45

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Originally Posted by Dag A

Sir I have never been in SCAR guild ever in my life, and I have never heard of redway until I posted this so thanks

Well good for you, I linked a thread to Kathy Redway on the 2nd page, go look it up, and maybe you can pull more ideas from it.

js333x · Jan 15, 2010, 10:21 PM // 22:21

I was with him on the first go last night, even with mess ups the main team finished faster than the average PUG manly way group definatly has promise!

eonclipse · Jan 15, 2010, 10:30 PM // 22:30

only thing different is the use of the war, and that the eles dont bring ebon escape. if u ran 4 eles of this or 3 OgVCkMzEdZYVq4SU2Ap42QQA and its redway.

js333x · Jan 15, 2010, 10:31 PM // 22:31

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Originally Posted by eonclipse

only thing different is the use of the war, and that the eles dont bring ebon escape. if u ran 4 eles of this or 3 OgVCkMzEdZYVq4SU2Ap42QQA and its redway.

Reguardless of what its a varient of its still effective

Dag Z · Jan 15, 2010, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Okay. Seeing as I'm not going to waste time quoting all of you, you know what you said. This build is less independent.. which means that if 1 pug leaves or fails, you don't have to suffer! We made this build for pugs, we could easily add a T3/T4 and get just as fast as you other manlys. We posted this to inform that this build is JUST AS FAST, if not faster, than a manlyway PUG team. Which means if you compare an average pug group of manlyway and a average pug group of hateway, hateway wins. This was mainly made to decrease the bored game that Guild Wars is becoming. I appreciate you telling us ideas on how to make the build better.

ATTENTION: Redway has no proof that they had these builds, so that comment is just bologna. Myself and Dag A have NEVER heard of redway until now.

eonclipse · Jan 15, 2010, 11:28 PM // 23:28

again here is proof of redway back in september, in SCAR forums, theres is a version for raggars, FoW, DoA. u want proof, check the date i posted this. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/k...ghlight=redway
so if u dont see the resemblance... i remember when this was posted on wiki and it got bashed cuz nobody wanted to try it.

Dag Z · Jan 15, 2010, 11:39 PM // 23:39

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Originally Posted by eonclipse

again here is proof of redway back in september, in SCAR forums, theres is a version for raggars, FoW, DoA. u want proof, check the date i posted this. http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/k...ghlight=redway
so if u dont see the resemblance... i remember when this was posted on wiki and it got bashed cuz nobody wanted to try it.

The title is also Kathandrax, good job. And LIKE I SAID "This build is made to have less, if any, fail pug groups. This build works GREAT and is difficult to fail.

feedmenow · Jan 15, 2010, 11:53 PM // 23:53

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Originally Posted by Dag Z

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]we could easily add a T3/T4 and get just as fast as you other manlys.

Ill challenge that.

Dag A · Jan 15, 2010, 11:59 PM // 23:59

If you wanna get a T3/T4 dante I will be glad to do it and good terras

Coney · Jan 16, 2010, 12:16 AM // 00:16

I guess I gotta say, I'm so sick of the OP/noskillz mode that (pseudo) perma SF brings to this game.

The skill is totally unbalancing, and makes playing pointless (e.g. GOD MODE). I'm not sure why they've allowed this to go on for so long, or why they wasted *SO* much time and effort on UW to try and make perma solo ecto farming harder...

But I guess, if they nerf it, it just results in a bonder or two doing the same thing to the invuln frontline...

Sir Nothing · Jan 16, 2010, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by Dag A

If you wanna get a T3/T4 dante I will be glad to do it and good terras

this means you have to cut your main team down from 6 to 4. still think you have enough firepower to spike? i'll gladly do one of the terras for your runs.

Dag A · Jan 16, 2010, 01:25 AM // 01:25

A solo ele with candy can spike solo I know this

Life Bringing · Jan 16, 2010, 01:45 AM // 01:45

To compete with our manlyway times, you can only have a mt and 2 optional spikers. If a Warrior+ele can do this, then fine, but every spike will be slower than a manlyway spike, because manly spikes are practically instant.

Nobody cares if this is, according to you, faster than manlyway pugs. The finishing time of the main team depends completely on the main tank. If you have a crappy pug mt, it's going to be slow regardless. I've had 15 minute manly runs multiple times with just a regular setup, and we could probably push it down to 14 with a fortunate spawn.

Claiming that something is better than something else, with a 21 minute screen to back it up, proves nothing.

Also, this is redway. Face it. Idc if you had never heard of it, the same idea has already been done, and claiming credit for it is stupid.

Para Scar · Jan 16, 2010, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Yup, this "Ele Spike" was done by Red Phyve back in July 2009.