Curse

daphoenix555 · Jan 11, 2010, 03:24 PM // 15:24

I decided to share this old secret build I made cause the one on wiki is doesn't even compare to the one i will post.

build:
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Requirements to run this:
A high norn rank
A high ebon rank
Cons( pumpkin pie, alchohol, b-day cakes, candy apples, eggs, candy corn, rock candies)
Superior vigor

Weapons:
Perma staff
+5 energy zealous spear of enchanting
+5 energy zealous sword of enchanting
+5 energy zealous flatbow of enchanting
energy offhand or a shield +30hp

Optional:
Essence
Grail
Survivor runes and health runes

Have ur team(if u have one) bring running skills and damage.

Level 1:
-Use "I am the strongest" and pop ur cons.

-Run to the indicated area on the map.

-Make sure u do not get trapped by the enemies and kill any flame djinn's nearby.

-Ignore the flame guardian in the area, u do not need to kill him.

-Kill the worm by shooting him down with a spear at that area using the + dmg -from ebon standard of honor and "I am the strongest."

-Pick up the key and run to level 2.

Level 2:

-Pop ur cons again and use "I am the strongest."

-Run to the Flame Regent of Flame and kill him using Ebon standard of honor
and "I am the strongest" to kill him (u can use sliver armor also.)

-Run to the dungeon lock and make sure u cast SF right b4 u walk into the worms area.

-When u open the dungeon lock use burning speed to break aggro as 138% -IMS breaks all aggro with the exception of Flame Djinn's.

-Run to the exit to level 3.

Level 3:

-If u are running this for cash and have a full team, make sure ur team does NOT afk.

-Tell ur entire team to run as far as they can and die with the exception of NOT triggering the flame djinn boss.

-Pull mobs and kill any melee with sliver armor.

-Make sure u do NOT kill any ranged enemies.

-When all the melee is dead, pull as many ranged targets as u possibly can using ur flatbow.

-Build energy before aggroing the boss and make sure all ur cons are up and "Feel no pain" is up as well; ur total hp should be around 1000hp.

-Cast SF right before the boss and plant the ebon ward right before u aggro and then cast Sliver armor + burning speed.

-The boss will attack u twice with his 400dmg enchant removing attack, re-apply burning speed after each attack.

-U should end up with around 100hp with the boss dead like so:

-If u have a team with u run past the shrine #2 and die at around shrine #3; this will cause ur team to rez at shrine #2 (shrine#1 is the 1st rez pt. at start.)

-Tell ur team to run as far as they can to the boss and u will run to shrine #4 and die off there; this will cause ur team to rez at shrine #3.

-Tell ur team to run to shrine #4, make sure no aggro is at that shrine when u wipe / rez at that shrine.

-Make ur team pay u if u are running this for money.

-Have ur team kill one very easy boss using skills such as SoS, "You move like a Dwarf", EVAS, RoJ, Ursan, Ravens, PI, etc.

-There is also the option of soloing the boss which is not really recommended as it is a complete waste of time.

-If u decide to solo, u have to have insane micro skills in order to kill the boss.

-It is also recommended to use an essence on level 3 for ur party as people tend to die really easily and forget to bring running skills to trigger the shrine points.

level 1 takes about 7mins
level 2 takes about 4mins
level 3 takes about 8mins to reach to boss

If u have any questions or comments, please reply here :P

superraptors · Jan 11, 2010, 11:01 PM // 23:01

looks sick

boss part looks difficult tho

video anyone?

aga · Jan 15, 2010, 08:46 PM // 20:46

32 mins for last level is pretty slow, think I managed 17mins on my 2nd try at solo, with different build ofc. Was using essences though, imo freeing 1 slot on your bar and going 15mins faster is definately worth using an essence or 3.

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daphoenix555 · Jan 16, 2010, 02:10 AM // 02:10

u dont really need to use essences as u will normally have a team to help u kill the last boss. i also didn't use sliver armor at all versus the boss, i just used +dmg from skills and i also didn't have glyph of lesser energy which would made the run a lot faster. I made this build for money along time ago so i never really wanted to waste so many cons.

gwkbar · Jan 16, 2010, 07:51 AM // 07:51

there's already a pvx guide

freaking 25-26 min runs 5,4,17 WITH PAYING PEOPLE.

How does it not compare??? Your 45 min runs versus my 26 min runs.

Hmmm 19 mins faster. Oh wait. you can hero/hench the dungeon in the time that you run it,

And your bar sucks.

And the name is Kbar

My times speak for themselves, with paying pugs. Level 3 normally varies between 12-19 min based on how well pugs can follow 2 directions... attack the target

Level 1 - 5 min.
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5940/gw025s.jpg

Level 2- 4 min
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/m.../gw027-2-1.jpg

Level 3- 17 min
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7694/gw032u.jpg

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:A/E_Kathandrax_Solo

aga · Jan 16, 2010, 05:23 PM // 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwkbar

there's already a pvx guide

freaking 25-26 min runs 5,4,17 WITH PAYING PEOPLE.

How does it not compare??? Your 45 min runs versus my 26 min runs.

Hmmm 19 mins faster. Oh wait. you can hero/hench the dungeon in the time that you run it,

And your bar sucks.

And the name is Kbar

My times speak for themselves, with paying pugs. Level 3 normally varies between 12-19 min based on how well pugs can follow 2 directions... attack the target

Level 1 - 5 min.
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5940/gw025s.jpg

Level 2- 4 min
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/m.../gw027-2-1.jpg

Level 3- 17 min
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7694/gw032u.jpg

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:A/E_Kathandrax_Solo

NICE!!!!111!one!!11! you managed to fail badly. Look at the title of the thread "guide to fully soloing #1 Kathandrax" it's not 'guide to running kathandrax".

He is using a build he made himself, you're using a build you stole from some website. His bar may suck, you just suck in general.

Edit: I'd love to see you solo it, then i may retract my comment about you sucking...

daphoenix555 · Jan 16, 2010, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwkbar

there's already a pvx guide

freaking 25-26 min runs 5,4,17 WITH PAYING PEOPLE.

How does it not compare??? Your 45 min runs versus my 26 min runs.

Hmmm 19 mins faster. Oh wait. you can hero/hench the dungeon in the time that you run it,

And your bar sucks.

And the name is Kbar

My times speak for themselves, with paying pugs. Level 3 normally varies between 12-19 min based on how well pugs can follow 2 directions... attack the target

Level 1 - 5 min.
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5940/gw025s.jpg

Level 2- 4 min
http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/m.../gw027-2-1.jpg

Level 3- 17 min
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7694/gw032u.jpg

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:A/E_Kathandrax_Solo

read the last few statements near the end. It said i reached boss at 8mins, did level 1 at 7mins and level 2 at 4mins (all on my 1st try in several months). Assuming u have a non afk team, this would account to be about 20mins to reach the boss without anyone doing anything but running. If u include killing the boss with a team, it would take easily less than 5mins (which means the run takes around 25 mins or less). Soloing took me 24mins at boss cause i just wanted to show that u CAN solo and i even said soloing the boss is not recommended so read b4 u write. In addition to that, I said that this is a guide to fully solo kanthadrax it was not intended for people to do work although i included a statement on part where people do do work at the boss for people running this for money. And on ur statement aga, yes this build may suck comparison to urs because i dont like wasting 3-5 essences to do this dungeon (i know u like to post how to do fully solo dungeon runs but there not always economical or practical). If i had included essences the run (fully solo'd) would easily take alot less time.

p.s. Kbar don't be mad because u fail. ur build on wiki for a rating of "great" is kinda pathetic.

p.s. Aga i dont see how that build could kill the flame djinn without a HST recharge on shadow refuge or i could be missing something b/c i never tried ur build.

gwkbar · Jan 17, 2010, 06:20 AM // 06:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by daphoenix555

read the last few statements near the end. It said i reached boss at 8mins, did level 1 at 7mins and level 2 at 4mins (all on my 1st try in several months). Assuming u have a non afk team, this would account to be about 20mins to reach the boss without anyone doing anything but running. If u include killing the boss with a team, it would take easily less than 5mins (which means the run takes around 25 mins or less). Soloing took me 24mins at boss cause i just wanted to show that u CAN solo and i even said soloing the boss is not recommended so read b4 u write. In addition to that, I said that this is a guide to fully solo kanthadrax it was not intended for people to do work although i included a statement on part where people do do work at the boss for people running this for money. And on ur statement aga, yes this build may suck comparison to urs because i dont like wasting 3-5 essences to do this dungeon (i know u like to post how to do fully solo dungeon runs but there not always economical or practical). If i had included essences the run (fully solo'd) would easily take alot less time.

p.s. Kbar don't be mad because u fail. ur build on wiki for a rating of "great" is kinda pathetic.

p.s. Aga i dont see how that build could kill the flame djinn without a HST recharge on shadow refuge or i could be missing something b/c i never tried ur build.

hehe... lol this is pretty funny. you can pull the djinn back to the 1st res shrine and get him stuck in the wall. he won't move and you can just spear him down. U die 2x to get him pulled all the way back. use SR as a cover with essence.

lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by aga

NICE!!!!111!one!!11! you managed to fail badly. Look at the title of the thread "guide to fully soloing #1 Kathandrax" it's not 'guide to running kathandrax".

He is using a build he made himself, you're using a build you stole from some website. His bar may suck, you just suck in general.

Edit: I'd love to see you solo it, then i may retract my comment about you sucking...

stole a bar from a website... i'm just saying that the bar on wiki has better results than a freakin 45 min.

And, if I my crappy bar can do it in 25 mins, and yours takes 45 mins. Whose is better?

it's not that hard to completely solo either. just pull the flame djinn using refuge as a cover enchantment back to the 1st shrine on lvl 3, he'll get stuck in the wall. Just ebon ward and spear him down. u'll need to use 2 covers+dark escape to mitigate damage. he'll get stuck and won't attack or move back, and you can just kill him from the shrine.

happy?

anyways(focusing on your build)

my question is why burning speed. if your going for a cover, a lower energy is enchant is more effective. if your going for damage, ear bite is better overall. The flame djinn does not burn and neither do flowstones or the final boss. the only thing that burns is the wurm on lvl 1.

daphoenix555 · Jan 17, 2010, 04:14 PM // 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwkbar

anyways(focusing on your build)

my question is why burning speed. if your going for a cover, a lower energy is enchant is more effective. if your going for damage, ear bite is better overall. The flame djinn does not burn and neither do flowstones or the final boss. the only thing that burns is the wurm on lvl 1.

shadow refuge is slightly more risky b/c of its longer recharge time and it also requires the use of an essence to work properly on level 3. Burning speed is mainly just used for the flame djinn for level 3, shadow refuge works perfectly fine but u would have to precast sliver armor much earlier against the boss which means u would have to precast shadow refuge earlier b/c u need the shadow refuge to recharge b4 the next attack (shadow refuges recharge 6seconds + cast time using an essence). A lower sliver armor duration has its risks but i never bothered trying it. Ear bite is faster for level 1, but i did not use shadow refuge so i cant out heal the trap and i do not use deaths charge. Level 2 takes the same amount of time any way u think of it.

The other variations to fully solo this dungeon would be (without essences, or only one on level 3)
1. shadow form
2. Glyph of swiftness
3. Deadly paradox
4. Sliver armor (or optional if u wanted to spear the djinn i guess)
5. Ebon ward
6. Shadow refuge
7. Optional (supportive; another cover enchantment, feel no pain, dark escape)
8. Optional (damage; ear bite, I am the strongest, glyph of lesser energy, By urals hammer)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwkbar

stole a bar from a website... i'm just saying that the bar on wiki has better results than a freakin 45 min.

And, if I my crappy bar can do it in 25 mins, and yours takes 45 mins. Whose is better?

it's not that hard to completely solo either. just pull the flame djinn using refuge as a cover enchantment back to the 1st shrine on lvl 3, he'll get stuck in the wall. Just ebon ward and spear him down. u'll need to use 2 covers+dark escape to mitigate damage. he'll get stuck and won't attack or move back, and you can just kill him from the shrine.

happy?

u didn't really read the whole statement above. It said (without a team, therefore nobody could possibly help me) i reached the boss in 20mins on my 1st try without even practicing. I could easily reduce level 3;s time to boss if I wanted too. If u had pulled the Flame Djinn and speared him to death, that would take ages too, not to mention the boss if u wanted to solo him too. Sliver armor takes alot less time to do; when i killed the Flame djinn boss i took my time and didn't rush through anything at all.

Also, if the flame djinn was stuck "in the wall", how can u possibly spear him anyways (I never tried ur build) and there is also the possible issues of AI when he gets hit.

U can prove me wrong with pics and then I will believe u (don't forget the /age and make sure u have no party.)

aga · Jan 17, 2010, 07:38 PM // 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwkbar

stole a bar from a website... i'm just saying that the bar on wiki has better results than a freakin 45 min.

And, if I my crappy bar can do it in 25 mins, and yours takes 45 mins. Whose is better?

it's not that hard to completely solo either. just pull the flame djinn using refuge as a cover enchantment back to the 1st shrine on lvl 3, he'll get stuck in the wall. Just ebon ward and spear him down. u'll need to use 2 covers+dark escape to mitigate damage. he'll get stuck and won't attack or move back, and you can just kill him from the shrine.

happy?

Saying that something is easy is hardly proving that you can do it, Flame Djinn isn't all that hard, the end boss is much harder.

And i'm sure he could do it in 25mins by running leechers and have them kill things for him.

gwkbar · Jan 17, 2010, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by aga

Saying that something is easy is hardly proving that you can do it, Flame Djinn isn't all that hard, the end boss is much harder.

And i'm sure he could do it in 25mins by running leechers and have them kill things for him.

end boss isn't hard. just drop firebombs and just melee. it takes 6-7 min to solo the final boss. u'll want to have some consumables. pie/rock candies. zealous dags.

for a full solo, this is pretty good for a sin.

the wiki way is just an easier way to run the dungeon w/ people for money.

this is a pretty good complete solo.

ignore my hate comments above/

Its Only Vic · Jan 18, 2010, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Just a different build for doing something a different way. Lay off the op and his "skill", if your going to critize stick to the build. Interesting kbar...