Curse

Dace Hunters · Jan 27, 2010, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Pile your attributes into Earth Magic and Earth Prayers. Windwalkers sig as mentioned above.

Obby Flesh (for spell proofing)
Mental Block
Conviction (stacks with above for permanant 75% block)
Armour of Sanctity (to soften any melee mobs)
I am unstoppable (anti KD and more armour)
Vital Boon (for +200 health)

and then fill the last 2 from the following:
Veil of Thorns (to make AoS activate for ranged attacks)
Armour of earth (more armour)
Mystic Regen (+10 regen is nice)
Stoneflesh (more dmg reduction)
Kinetic Armour (more armour)

Then you have 166 armour with everything up (or 200+ armour if you take Kinetic or Armour of Earth) a permanant 75% block chance, weakness on all melee opponents, 19 dmg reduction or 44 dmg reduction with stoneflesh (im assuming it stacks, though i might be wrong), 800 health (1000 if someone brings vital blessing for you) and +10 regen if you take mystic. Sounds like it could withstand most anything to me

REDdelver · Jan 27, 2010, 10:26 PM // 22:26

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Originally Posted by sonofthort

You're not helping anybody by using your "there is no point to do this" logic. Basically, you bring nothing to the table.

It is help, you chose not to see it as help.

All you are doing is building a house a week before there are major building codes changes in your county which could easily affect your project. Wheres the logic?

If you insist.

I agree with above posts. At this point Obby tanks are better overall. Also, your biggest strength is your biggest weakness. While Vow has its great side, it certainly has a major weakness in that you cant be a target of spells or can not cast spells which rules out most healing. Not to mention its interruptable.

The thing about suggesting a obby tank at this point is kind of moot. There are rumblings that it could be updated too. Thus once again. Might as well wait, and try again with your thought after that update.

Jk)Phoenix · Jan 27, 2010, 10:54 PM // 22:54

kinda useless discussion... cause u base it on the fact that, except from SF and "600", all other skills will be untouched... which will not be...

so i say: wait the update cuz maybe ur "next tank char" could be nerfed before u will ever try him...

sonofthort · Jan 27, 2010, 11:02 PM // 23:02

or it's just a discussion on other tanking possibilities besides sf and 600, so if you dont like it, you can stay out, or you can talk about it now, since that is the point of the thread to talk about it now, if you dont want to or think its useless, nobody is forcing you to post.

I like the Terra idea posted at the top of this page. Obby Flesh would be better than VoW imo, and conviction + mental block is a great combo.

OoO Rift OoO · Jan 27, 2010, 11:59 PM // 23:59

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Originally Posted by Naughty Nurse

The biggest Weakness of the idea, is VoS itself.. directly from wiki:

Elite Enchantment Spell. For 5...9...10 seconds, you cannot be the target of spells, and you cannot cast spells.

Having said that, you cannot be target of friendly heal SPELLS, making you tank for a bit, then die. Wich clearly isnt ideal. Unless you can sufficiently heal yourself, without the use of spells, or make sure theres no health loss whatsoever, VoS wont do the trick

You are very bad if you think a monk should use target heals to heal the tank
fail
that is called "getting aggro"

heal party

and last,

l2p

sonofthort · Jan 28, 2010, 12:25 AM // 00:25

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Originally Posted by Dace Hunters

Pile your attributes into Earth Magic and Earth Prayers. Windwalkers sig as mentioned above.

Obby Flesh (for spell proofing)
Mental Block
Conviction (stacks with above for permanant 75% block)
Armour of Sanctity (to soften any melee mobs)
I am unstoppable (anti KD and more armour)
Vital Boon (for +200 health)

and then fill the last 2 from the following:
Veil of Thorns (to make AoS activate for ranged attacks)
Armour of earth (more armour)
Mystic Regen (+10 regen is nice)
Stoneflesh (more dmg reduction)
Kinetic Armour (more armour)

Then you have 166 armour with everything up (or 200+ armour if you take Kinetic or Armour of Earth) a permanant 75% block chance, weakness on all melee opponents, 19 dmg reduction or 44 dmg reduction with stoneflesh (im assuming it stacks, though i might be wrong), 800 health (1000 if someone brings vital blessing for you) and +10 regen if you take mystic. Sounds like it could withstand most anything to me

The prob is damage reduction doesnt stack like that, and neither does armor. Also, you should add glyph of swiftness to maintain obby flesh permanently, unless ofcourse you are using cons.

As for VoS, it would also be possible to cast mirage cloak after VoS ends, so u only have a small window of spell vulnerability. This would grant a 75% block rate with conviction, and with bonds from monk, you will be taking little to no damage. Heal party would be a successful way to heal this tank (most monks use Healer's Boon in PvE).

byteme! · Jan 28, 2010, 02:21 AM // 02:21

This thread is premature. Wait for the update so we can see what we have available to play with. As it stands at this time, ALL the ideas and theories in this thread may not be around when the update comes along. You all got nothing but speculation to work with at this point and nothing more. You're all more then welcome to keep theory crafting but to say you're all wasting your time is probably an understatement.