Curse

striderkaaru · Jun 30, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

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Originally Posted by lambda the great

My Healing Hands got interupted

*gives cookie*

Draxus · Jun 30, 2006, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Same thing happened to me Lamba, I just thought mine was fluke but apparently it wasnt. Good bye theory on they only interupt 1 sec^ cast times.

Arkanius · Jun 30, 2006, 09:00 PM // 21:00

I always die at the first checkpoint, and I still dont know if I should kill the enemies there (the spider and the others), or if I should run by them.

Racthoh · Jun 30, 2006, 09:34 PM // 21:34

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Originally Posted by Arkanius

I always die at the first checkpoint, and I still dont know if I should kill the enemies there (the spider and the others), or if I should run by them.

If you don't kill that group, you risk getting crippled followed by multiple Protector's Strikes and possibly Wastrel's Worry a few times. Once you hit the skales, your health will probably be too low to survive the Life Transfer + Life Siphon.

Arkanius · Jul 01, 2006, 11:55 AM // 11:55

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

If you don't kill that group, you risk getting crippled followed by multiple Protector's Strikes and possibly Wastrel's Worry a few times. Once you hit the skales, your health will probably be too low to survive the Life Transfer + Life Siphon.

Exactly what happened, then Ill have to be fast so I dont get killed the by the Shadow group that gets to the first checkpoint after some time again.

Another note: Is it possible to run Triple Chop + Cyclone Axe + Physical Resistance without a Zealous mod or Ill run out of energy in no time?

Enjoi · Jul 01, 2006, 12:24 PM // 12:24

haha did you still finish teh run after your Healing Hands got interupted?? Its 5:24 a.m i read ALL the posts.. my eyes are killin me. Oh well time to surf >.< BEACH FTW

-Enjoi

lambda the great · Jul 01, 2006, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by Enjoi

haha did you still finish teh run after your Healing Hands got interupted?? Its 5:24 a.m i read ALL the posts.. my eyes are killin me. Oh well time to surf >.< BEACH FTW

-Enjoi

Of course I did

You read all 1467 of them???

Enjoi · Jul 01, 2006, 01:19 PM // 13:19

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Originally Posted by lambda the great

Of course I did

You read all 1467 of them???

Course i did

1468 including this one:] wish i hadn't payed 15k to learn spider farmin.... SIGH ah well.. make some good decisions and some bad ones. time to surf

Peace out.

Racthoh · Jul 01, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

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Originally Posted by Arkanius

Another note: Is it possible to run Triple Chop + Cyclone Axe + Physical Resistance without a Zealous mod or Ill run out of energy in no time?

Well, Cyclone Axe alone would be 5 energy every 4 seconds. One pip of energy regen is one energy every 3 seconds. Triple Chop, 5 every 10 seconds... Physical Resistance, 10 every 50 seconds? (not sure, I don't use it myself).

Knido · Jul 02, 2006, 04:05 AM // 04:05

and for those dying on the run using healing hands, i always found it useful to sub out an attack for healing signet just until i got the run down pat. that way you dont waste 1k

krytas · Jul 02, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I'm wondering wat build is faster you complete the cave, the W/ME build or the W/MO build?

Across The Battle · Jul 02, 2006, 05:51 PM // 17:51

W/mo is, racthoh can get it down to like 36 minutes or something retardedly quick like that

Racthoh · Jul 02, 2006, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Across The Battle

W/mo is, racthoh can get it down to like 36 minutes or something retardedly quick like that

Probably faster if I turned off guild chat and just completely ignored the outside world.

striderkaaru · Jul 03, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Probably faster if I turned off guild chat and just completely ignored the outside world.

ahh, but you love us too much to do that. =P

a dragon slash w/me build is fairly quick too. mouth of cave - end of cave is about 30-40 min.

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Originally Posted by Arkanius

Another note: Is it possible to run Triple Chop + Cyclone Axe + Physical Resistance without a Zealous mod or Ill run out of energy in no time?

you'll run out of energy fast. even with a zealous mod, the energy gain from attacking is just enough to fuel those 3 skills if you're attacking multiple targets. however, when you're down to 1-2 spiders, you need to cut down on the cyclone spam or you'll find physical resistance flashing with not enough energy to put it back up.

Across The Battle · Jul 04, 2006, 03:39 AM // 03:39

I'm going to test a few different builds tonight to see whats easiest and all that. Im going to start off using this physical resistance axe build then sword then enchantment sword build then finally axe enchantment build. Ill get back to everyone about the efficiancy of it all tonight :-D.

What? Im bored...

Yeah, Im gonna double post, what about it?

Arangja · Jul 04, 2006, 01:45 PM // 13:45

OK looks like I got the nac now for getting to the cave, killing the Dryders outside, letting the spidies spawn and come out, killing them off.

Then there is still the cave to do and that is where I get hung up. I shoot the Dryder with my bow to lure him out but he just runs back in, then I try to attack him before he runs back and and while I am attacking him the spidies drop behind me.

What should I do, should I first see if I can get them to drop to make sure there is no more spiders before I take out the first Dryder in the cave??

Thx for your help, BTW Racthoh I love the W/Mo build, works like a bomb

Racthoh · Jul 04, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

Ah yes, the dryders in cave can be a stubborn pain. Here is exactly what I do. This is with a longbow equipped as your pulling weapon:

1. Make sure you're well out of range, even out of the range of firing an arrow.
2. With the bow on, attack the dryder.
3. Rotate the screen as you run into range so you're looking at the front of your character.
4. Once your character is about to release the arrow, hold W (if you still have the default WASD setup) to move back towards the entrance of the cave.
5. Continue to hold down W until the dryder starts to move on your radar screen. At this point, rotate the screen back, and walk backwards (default s) until the dryder uses a spell on you. At this point, it has been pulled back far enough as to not walk into the trigger point for the spiders. As such, walk up to it and attack.

If you have downloaded the first video, you will see me use a similar strategy against the 3rd dryder at the outside of the cave.

Phuzun · Jul 04, 2006, 08:22 PM // 20:22

I tried some of this, and came up with my own variation that works pretty fast.

Just as a heads up I used to pull 3 at a time, which is time consuming, but have modified the build alittle.

Currently, equiped with the geoffer's bulwark, _10vs piercing and +30hp, along with 15% in stance zealous axe of defense, and a good set of armor + absorbtion.

My bar looks like this

Cyclone, Whirling, spring, watch yourself, i will survive, phys resist, dolyak, healing sig.

with sup run on an axe helm and minor str and tactics, my atributes are at 15 axe, 11 str, 11 tac, 1 isp.

I clear off the beach of any driftwoods i can, they seem to drop shards alot more than spiders. Then proceed to the mouth of the cave, here i'll pull each of the 3 dryders out and kill them. Once those 3 are cleared i regen up and prepare to rush the one that is a bit inside. With whirling axe you can just keep using it and beat wastrels worry everytime. The spiders will start dropping. At this point keep phys resist and watch yourself up at all times, and dolyak as much as possible. You must have the bulwark on or you'll be healing constantly. I can tank all 24 spiders at this point only taking damage from poison. I've not timed it, but its well under an hour now.

Without this thread i'd have never thought about this. Thanks.

karunpav · Jul 04, 2006, 09:54 PM // 21:54

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Originally Posted by Phuzun

Cyclone, Whirling, spring, watch yourself, i will survive, phys resist, dolyak, healing sig.

I think Physical Resistance, Dolyak Signet, and Watch Yourself all at the same time is overkill. PR and WY alone should be enough to take 0 damage from all attacks. In place of Dolyak, you should put in another adrenaline attack skill (like Penetrating Chop/Blow or Executioner's Strike), just to make things go a little bit faster.

Arangja · Jul 05, 2006, 07:50 AM // 07:50

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Originally Posted by Phuzun

I tried some of this, and came up with my own variation that works pretty fast.

Just as a heads up I used to pull 3 at a time, which is time consuming, but have modified the build alittle.

Currently, equiped with the geoffer's bulwark, _10vs piercing and +30hp, along with 15% in stance zealous axe of defense, and a good set of armor + absorbtion.

My bar looks like this

Cyclone, Whirling, spring, watch yourself, i will survive, phys resist, dolyak, healing sig.

with sup run on an axe helm and minor str and tactics, my atributes are at 15 axe, 11 str, 11 tac, 1 isp.

I clear off the beach of any driftwoods i can, they seem to drop shards alot more than spiders. Then proceed to the mouth of the cave, here i'll pull each of the 3 dryders out and kill them. Once those 3 are cleared i regen up and prepare to rush the one that is a bit inside. With whirling axe you can just keep using it and beat wastrels worry everytime. The spiders will start dropping. At this point keep phys resist and watch yourself up at all times, and dolyak as much as possible. You must have the bulwark on or you'll be healing constantly. I can tank all 24 spiders at this point only taking damage from poison. I've not timed it, but its well under an hour now.

Without this thread i'd have never thought about this. Thanks.

I still think the W/Mo build is a lot faster as you don't have to use the healing signet all the time, everytime you use the signet you loose 2 seconds of attack time, using it 5 times means already 10 seconds gone and that is almost another spider you could have taken care of. I have tried the W/Any build that Racthoh posted right in the beginning and then I also tried the W/Mo build which I really like and feel it is so much faster.

The Initial part is maybe a bit slower, cause you have no healing sig here you have to be very carefull how to get to the cave. Once you are past all the scale then you are smiling.

I was able to clear all the spiders from the first initial spam off in around 6 or 7 min max, which is fun

you don't need to wory about healing sig so you can attack any spider close to you, and also if something goes wrong you don't have to wory that you might be under Dolyak so you can just sprint away and recouperate, then just fall right in again.

I find LV and HH is more than enough to keep you alive and also I have not once ran out of energy and that is without a zelous sword!

I also noticed the same as mentioned above, of my last 5 runs I got 3 shards and they all came from the driftwood, none from the spiders yet. LOL one thing I always forget is my keys

but I'm sure I'll get into the habit of taking that along