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Old Apr 08, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23   #1101
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I finally did a Whole run last night at like 3 am, I had to add in watch your self for flurry, but it took perfect gear to do it.

I had trouble at first trying to kill a huge group stuck together but I had to get the spread out, bit sadly I only mad 6k for 2 1/2 hours.
for me it takes around 45-50 minutes. But whit the change to my build (to solo farm points beyond spiders) it became a bit slower. But its still very easy to do and once you've learned how to pass the skales fast that has taken a lot of time away for me. And the spiders well you will learn how to notice healing spring faster and that will make it easier aswell, or learn how to make them split up is nice aswell

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Old Apr 08, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00   #1102
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for me it takes around 45-50 minutes. But whit the change to my build (to solo farm points beyond spiders) it became a bit slower. But its still very easy to do and once you've learned how to pass the skales fast that has taken a lot of time away for me. And the spiders well you will learn how to notice healing spring faster and that will make it easier aswell, or learn how to make them split up is nice aswell

EDIT: woohoo post number 1100
What changes did you make and what else are you farming?

Oh and besides what are you farming where are they?

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Old Apr 08, 2006, 05:30 PM // 17:30   #1103
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can i just replace Eviscrate with somthing like cleave, i mean just until i can cap eviscrate?
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Old Apr 08, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32   #1104
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can i just replace Eviscrate with somthing like cleave, i mean just until i can cap eviscrate?
Sure. I used Cleave forever, only switching recently to Eviscerate. Eviscerate is slightly faster, though - a lot faster, if you can time it right (Evisc-Exe's-Penetrating-Cyclone is often a dead Spider if it's below half health).
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Old Apr 08, 2006, 09:53 PM // 21:53   #1105
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I find Evis bad for this as it triggers a regen via Melandru's Resilience.

Also while under conditions the spiders try to drop healsprings, not that that's a problem unless you're unlucky with a healsig.
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Old Apr 08, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57   #1106
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Very true, I find that while they have deep would on them, they will try to drop healing spring whether you're next to them or not.
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Old Apr 08, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02   #1107
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Well that shouldn't be too much of a problem, afterall when this first started they would use the Healing Spring regardless.
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 03:36 AM // 03:36   #1108
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3 straight runs...3 straight horrible scale spawns

I hope this won't be a continuing trend

At least I managed to kill them 2/3 of the time
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 03:45 AM // 03:45   #1109
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Im almost done with the video...only 2 more hours left of rendering Now for the trick question...anyone know where I can host a 300 meg file?!

There are a couple of situations I ran into where I had to run through a group of skales and dryders. It is totally doable.
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30   #1110
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 08:13 AM // 08:13   #1111
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Blah.. i wanna try this but dont want waste 1k cuz maybe i fail.. :/
If you don't wanna pay the 1k, join a chest run group. Only 125g, but some people don't like to take farmers. It's cheaper, and if you die, you can watch the runners, or leave. Your choice.
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 09:38 AM // 09:38   #1112
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I find Evis bad for this as it triggers a regen via Melandru's Resilience.
Think of it this way: if a Spider is at 500 health, then Deep Wounding it will reduce its health by 100 for the duration. It will then start gaining 4 health per second. Unless it gains health in this manner for 25 seconds or you don't kill it before the condition ends, it has lost health.

My rule of thumb is never to use Eviscerate unless I can finish the Spider without healing. I usually spam an extra Heal Sig before going to work, moving from 250 health to about 400 instead of waiting till I reach 150 to start it off. Then I chain Eviscerate, PB, Cyclone, Exe's, PB if charged/swing if not and Cyclone. After that, the Spider is usually on about 20% health and killing them is easy.
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 10:43 AM // 10:43   #1113
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Im almost done with the video...only 2 more hours left of rendering Now for the trick question...anyone know where I can host a 300 meg file?!

There are a couple of situations I ran into where I had to run through a group of skales and dryders. It is totally doable.
its worth killing the dryders and driftwood..

1. it makes the path clearer and its easier to see whats skales and not
2. ive got shards a couple times from the first group of driftwood and sometimes the second group past the first set of skales..

1.2 Dryders are sissy's, its perfectly easy to take on 3 dryders at once, jus time all ur moves to coincide with westrels and dont worry if u start to lose health cos the sig cancels it aswell
2.2 again dryders can drop shards

main thing is tho neither of these groups pose any threats.


for getting past the skales just have patience. If theres six right near eachother or something try to get past as many without aggroing then use ur sprint when u have no other choice and try to make sure u kno where a safe spot is.. to stop and spam heal sig..

9/10 i dont aggro any skales, dunno y maybe im lucky, last time they killed me was @ the first dryder, the patrol of monks and warriors came really far down, tried to move but managed to aggro a skale aswell, with no where to go plus 3 sets of enemies attackin jus accepted my death and came back and tried again..
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 11:13 AM // 11:13   #1114
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im a noob in soling fow but wheni get it to the spiders
(its not hard acept if you get the shitty mesmers on yout al killin you..)

but hwen i get there im dieying also i need to use heal sig all the time and i still have my dolyak. defensive stance. watch yourself on...

any1 got tips?/ or is willing to help me ingame?(for free)

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Old Apr 09, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11   #1115
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Try it with Physical Resistance instead of Dolyak Signet. There is no drawback to this, except for that you can't run an IAS stance. But if you need to run away, you can do it on command, the duration is long, you don't need to spec very much into Inspiration at all. It also maximizes the effectiveness of any stance equipment you might have.

Also, using Defensive Stance precludes you from using skills and has minimal effectiveness - it may give you extra armor, but the Spiders use Called Shot, which prevents your stance from blocking.

Like most runs and solo farms, equipment is key. As the number of enemies increases (since pulling the spiders is difficult), the -received damage really becomes important. With the -3 from Superior Absorbtion, -2 in stance, -1 from Knight's, most of the damage after the +40 armor from Physical Resistance will be mitigated. Although superior absorb is expensive, major will do fine. The other parts are standard and easily obtainable anyways.
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 12:45 PM // 12:45   #1116
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i use major absorb, knights boots and -2 in stance shield

along with:

phys resis, dolyak, watch yourself.. works fine for me usually take 0 sometimes i take 6's but dont kno why lol maybe crits.. have no defence bonuses on my weapon jus zealous and axe master.

never used defensive stance but maybe thats the prob?


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Old Apr 09, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42   #1117
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Well, I've just done my second set of attempts at this...mixed results. When I did it with a partner a while ago, I could do the spiders quite easily, mainly because there were no scales hugging the wall where I like to pull spiders to.

Anyway, this time, I got to the spiders but there were scales wandering very close so I had to fight all of them at once. Also - I've just tried using physical resistance instead of WY @about 5 inspiration, but the scale spawns were fugly. It handled driftwoods no problem. But - do you think I should replace dolyaks with it instead? Also I'm probably gonna need help dealing with running past scales and fighting all spiders at once.

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edit: oops, several posts detailing this. Couldn't be bothered to read all of it

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Old Apr 09, 2006, 03:10 PM // 15:10   #1118
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i tryed again and now with W/Me with physical resistance.. it works fine..

i use dolyak sig. watch yourself!, physical resistance.
then i use the shield from thirsty river with -2 while in stance.
or i use my eternal shield wih +25hp always and -2 dmg while in stance
then i use my victos axe and gladiator armor wtih knights boots.. and a majro absorb.. i went pretty slow cosue it was my first succesfull time and i get the hand of it but after all i found an full inventory.. 3 shards a key about 200 wood and some other crafting and 1.8k
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 04:09 PM // 16:09   #1119
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Good job Rebel

You shouldn't need both Dolyak Signet and Physical resistance. Go with one of the two and you should still take no more than 1-5 damage.

Sorry I have been dragging on the video...I rendered last night until 4:00AM and passed out on my keyboard. It turns out when I view the video this morning it is encoded in lowest quality, barely visible, and basically a total piece of garbage. So here I am....rendering....again
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Old Apr 09, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11   #1120
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Just completed my first run. I got 1 shard, 150 wood, 6 steel, 50 iron, 35 dust, 500 in seeds, 1.4 in legs. Pretty disappointing .

And I still can't deal with those dodgy spawns
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