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Old Mar 31, 2006, 07:19 AM // 07:19   #1041
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Either something is wrong with my runs because whenever I'm farming the Spiders, they still use Healing Springs even though I'm attacking adjacent to them.
Basically keep in mind that if you are real close to them they will not use spring. By real close I mean in their faces.

Say you have 3 spiders lined up horizontally right in front of you. Unless they are bunched up real close you will not be able to attack the one in the middle because the 2 on the sides are going to spam healing spring. I can probably draw this better than I can explain so here it is. The "X's" are the 3 spiders. You are the "v" and should be attacking the underlined "X". This way you are close enough to both of them and they will not cast heal spring. Its pretty simple, I dont even position them anymore. If you let them all come out of the cave and fan out, you should never have a healing spring problem. Just watch for the skales that like to hobble over to the mouth of the cave

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Old Mar 31, 2006, 09:26 AM // 09:26   #1042
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I don't have optimal equipment,
You've done runs. You therefore have money. Prioritise optimal equipment - it really isn't all that expensive.
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 02:51 PM // 14:51   #1043
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I don't know if this has been posted yet or not, but instead of Hundred Blades, and to counter the poison, do u think u could go W/R and bring Melandru's Resiliance
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 03:26 PM // 15:26   #1044
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Again I can not thank Ractoah enough for the build and guidence. Had my best run every last night. Got 5 shards, 2 Golds one being a Max Sundering Shadow Blade of Fortatude, but I wanted to get some other info.

I have seen in some of the posts where sometimes people will after the cave go to others areas either to find chest or to just try to finish filling their invetories. What areas are you talking about and how do you get to them?
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 03:59 PM // 15:59   #1045
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Here are a couple of ideas, once at the end of the cave go out a little and a couple of
shadow beasts will pop-up, and sometimes a chest just beyond them, back into the
cave and take them out, you will need an interrupt skill to help out, just do not
attack them when you have SS on you, they really can't do much damage. Other thing is
to run over to the Wailing forest and solo it, the run can be tricky, and you will need
ele. res. or mantra of lighting to take on the spirit shepherds, and platemail armor
helps alot, if you want to try all this and use an axe this is the skill setup I take
for it along with my platemail armor in inventory :

sprint, disrupting chop, cleave, cyclone axe, watch yourself, healing signet, phs. res.,
ele. res.

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Old Mar 31, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35   #1046
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Basically keep in mind that if you are real close to them they will not use spring. By real close I mean in their faces.

Say you have 3 spiders lined up horizontally right in front of you. Unless they are bunched up real close you will not be able to attack the one in the middle because the 2 on the sides are going to spam healing spring. I can probably draw this better than I can explain so here it is. The "X's" are the 3 spiders. You are the "v" and should be attacking the underlined "X". This way you are close enough to both of them and they will not cast heal spring. Its pretty simple, I dont even position them anymore. If you let them all come out of the cave and fan out, you should never have a healing spring problem. Just watch for the skales that like to hobble over to the mouth of the cave

XvX X
In order to attack them you have to be VERY close in order to do so, but they still use Healing Springs.
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34   #1047
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Here are a couple of ideas, once at the end of the cave go out a little and a couple of
shadow beasts will pop-up, and sometimes a chest just beyond them, back into the
cave and take them out, you will need an interrupt skill to help out, just do not
attack them when you have SS on you, they really can't do much damage. Other thing is
to run over to the Wailing forest and solo it, the run can be tricky, and you will need
ele. res. or mantra of lighting to take on the spirit shepherds, and platemail armor
helps alot, if you want to try all this and use an axe this is the skill setup I take
for it along with my platemail armor in inventory :

sprint, disrupting chop, cleave, cyclone axe, watch yourself, healing signet, phs. res.,
ele. res.

Sirshadowrunner (AxE)
Thanks, where is the forest from they cave?
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 07:16 PM // 19:16   #1048
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In order to attack them you have to be VERY close in order to do so, but they still use Healing Springs.
Hmm...thats wierd they never do that to me. Keep in mind that once they start casting it they will not stop even if you run up close to them. Maybe thats what is happening to you. Its rare for 3 or even 2 spiders in the same group to start casting healing spring at the same time.

Once they cast it there is nothing you can do but wait that 10 seconds.
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 07:23 PM // 19:23   #1049
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I normally aggro all of them them get them to ball by the wall so I can cyclone them all to death but last time I tried they still use HS. Maybe it was just bad positioning that time anyone got any specific comments for aggroing them to ball?
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Old Mar 31, 2006, 08:37 PM // 20:37   #1050
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my advice would be not to ball them at all. I find that they wont use HS when you are within a cyclone axe distance from them. If my CA hits them, they wont use...probably knowing that they could get interupted.
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 12:29 AM // 00:29   #1051
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Whenever I hit a spider's Healing Spring it comes back 20 seconds later.
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 09:22 AM // 09:22   #1052
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Whenever I hit a spider's Healing Spring it comes back 20 seconds later.
Wow, you mean skills have recharge times now?

Of course it comes back 20 seconds later.
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 01:55 PM // 13:55   #1053
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Blah.. i wanna try this but dont want waste 1k cuz maybe i fail.. :/
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 02:48 PM // 14:48   #1054
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Blah.. i wanna try this but dont want waste 1k cuz maybe i fail.. :/
You will fail. Then you'll try it a few more times and you'll start succeeding. Then you'll make the money you lost back in short order.

Got to spend money to make money, they say.
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 02:59 PM // 14:59   #1055
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You will fail. Then you'll try it a few more times and you'll start succeeding. Then you'll make the money you lost back in short order.

Got to spend money to make money, they say.
Tryed. Resultat: Didint make the run -.-
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 03:15 PM // 15:15   #1056
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This run took me several attempts before I finally made it to the cave. I still die sometimes on the way across the beach.

Why are so many of us banned?
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 03:17 PM // 15:17   #1057
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jus want to say thanx to ractoh and everyone else with builds and tips.. been practicing this today, took a while but i got to the cave but no inside yet lol, im using the W/Me build w/ Swords

for the record i was within melee distance of 2 spiders and they used healing spring, range on it doesnt seem that big tho so if im in the middle and one does it i dont really need to worry about it as it has no effect on the one im killing.. only prob im having is the skales near the cave, but might try bringing dolyak and running into the middle and see if i do better like that.. damn skales!

ultimate if ur only gonna try a couple times ull never perfect it, if it was easy it wouldnt warrant a thread of this size

for an axe build wat mods are necessary? zealous? and if poss could u give a rough est of price.. also do u reckon its easier then a sword build?
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 05:05 PM // 17:05   #1058
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This run took me several attempts before I finally made it to the cave. I still die sometimes on the way across the beach.

Why are so many of us banned?
Well, in your case it's because you're a fool.
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 07:04 PM // 19:04   #1059
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Old Apr 01, 2006, 07:09 PM // 19:09   #1060
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Well, in your case it's because you're a fool.
Ah I knew there was a good reason for it
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