Curse

axe · Mar 08, 2006, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by striderkaaru

i believe the driftwoods have resistance to blunt damage.

I belive in the prima strategy guide, plants have a weakness Vs Slashing damage, so an axe/sword build would be faster on the driftwoods. I think its a -20AL vs slashing. I have a piercing axe I can try out and see if it takes longer than with a regular slashing axe.

striderkaaru · Mar 08, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43

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Originally Posted by axe

I belive in the prima strategy guide, plants have a weakness Vs Slashing damage, so an axe/sword build would be faster on the driftwoods. I think its a -20AL vs slashing. I have a piercing axe I can try out and see if it takes longer than with a regular slashing axe.

that might explain it, then. thanks, axe.

Nater · Mar 08, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

I'd have to check again to confirm, but I'm pretty sure my Fire axe does more dmg against the Snarlings vs the Zealous axe(which is slashing). That would make sense...being Fire vs. Wood.

Tigers Anger · Mar 08, 2006, 08:44 PM // 20:44

Hi, i tried this build and it worked well, thanks again Racthoh.

I'm too lazy to spam my healing signet often so i chose the lazy mans way - Watchful Spirit. I ony use my signet after 1 spiders death and i found when i used this build, the spider I was attacking NEVER used healing spring. Odd but true.

14 Axe, 12 Tactics, 11 Strength.

Cleave
Penetrating Blow
Flurry
Dolyak Signet
"Shields Up!"
Healing Signet
Sprint
Watchful Spirit

It probably isn't the best build, but since the recent buff to "Shields Up!" merited me using in my build. I used Flurry with Penetrating and Cleave because I like those spammable strong attacks and I never take damage from Wastrels.

Seef II · Mar 08, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

For those that still may be having trouble making the first parts of the run, I was bored and made maps for them. Will finish the rest later.

Don't kill my bandwidth please.
Shadow army
The pass

SnipiousMax · Mar 09, 2006, 02:03 AM // 02:03

I almost don't bother using my bow anymore... When they're clumped together, its very rare to have more than one or two in each other's heal spring...they're usually strung out like a chain, so as long as you start on one end, and make sure and tap all the spiders in each other's HS range, you don't lose anytime trying to kill them all at once.

Anarki · Mar 09, 2006, 02:34 AM // 02:34

I tried this out. And while it does work nicely for those warriros who cant find a group, I believe it's much safer for me to continue farming uw with my 55hp monk

Tho FoW solo is the best farming place for warriors who dont have a 55hp monk, you just need to master it

sunless · Mar 09, 2006, 06:29 AM // 06:29

Did it on my first try...first time in Fow too.

Took over an hour because i was reading this thread and the videos at the same time i was down there.

W/Mo

cyclone
cleave
penetrating blow
healing sig
watch yourself
dolyak
sprint
bal spirit (use it when im fighting driftwoods and spiders)

vcto axe + malinon shield

wasnt a great run but decent enough to cover the entrance fee and some profits (1 shard, 1 key, 1 rare shadow shield, 1 rare chaos axe, lots of seeds and legs)

thanks racthoh for making this available.

Zephro · Mar 09, 2006, 10:19 AM // 10:19

Decent run I had just now.

XeNoGeArZ · Mar 09, 2006, 12:54 PM // 12:54

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Originally Posted by Zephro

Decent run I had just now.

Decent run indeed, looks like you salvaged the bows and staffs and such. The corrisive legs always makes up for the cost and then some, but sometimes I wonder if it's really paying off for the time spent. I know it's all random, but some days luck just runs dry

Even with Fellblades, Chaos Axes, Shards, Chests... maybe I'm just jaded. For the 45mins+ I think we should be raking in around 20k in value but I don't think that is too common. I gotta tweak my build to be more efficient, I suppose. \\

Anyway, I shouldn't hate on this; at least warriors have a way to solo part of FoW and get those hard to obtain shards.

After Korea had won over favor tonight, I zone back and find all these sellers selling shards and ecto(55monk +SS) guys selling to each other. Funny

Missmelady · Mar 09, 2006, 03:01 PM // 15:01

Its weird for me. My entire guild does this farm run now but they usually only get 1-2 shards a run. Out of the 10-11 runs i have done i have gotten an upwards of 70-80 shards. I average 7-8 shards a run. I dont know why. I am currently working on a getting a build that can also kill the skale as that would be about another 15+ drops that you could recieve. So with that shard drop i average about 50-60k a run. Im not gonna complain intill the nerf it. Most likely adding more skale, yet another reason im working on that problem.

Zephro · Mar 09, 2006, 04:17 PM // 16:17

I tend to average 2 Shards a run.
No golds have dropped for me yet though. And I've done around 6, gotten 12 Shards.

Raxxman · Mar 09, 2006, 04:20 PM // 16:20

well

I get 1 or 2 shards from the spiders

However I often get a shard or 2 from the driftwood, best I've had is 6 shards before I even hit the cave

Nater · Mar 09, 2006, 06:05 PM // 18:05

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Originally Posted by Missmelady

Its weird for me. My entire guild does this farm run now but they usually only get 1-2 shards a run. Out of the 10-11 runs i have done i have gotten an upwards of 70-80 shards. I average 7-8 shards a run. I dont know why. I am currently working on a getting a build that can also kill the skale as that would be about another 15+ drops that you could recieve. So with that shard drop i average about 50-60k a run. Im not gonna complain intill the nerf it. Most likely adding more skale, yet another reason im working on that problem.

Curious, how much experience does your warrior have? I went down w/ a guildie the other night, and I think they just recently made it to lvl 20. 9 Shards dropped. When I go solo I average 2 per run like everyone else..low of 0, high of around 8.

Yorkin · Mar 09, 2006, 08:26 PM // 20:26

alright, I was at ToA about to try soloing FoW Spider's for the first time. I did prety good on the first run, cam back to ToA and heard some ppl's talkin about "Warrior/Monk Can solo Underworld". Just wanted to know if this is true and If so I would like to try it out some time.

Someone bring me some news.

XeNoGeArZ · Mar 09, 2006, 09:30 PM // 21:30

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Originally Posted by Yorkin

alright, I was at ToA about to try soloing FoW Spider's for the first time. I did prety good on the first run, cam back to ToA and heard some ppl's talkin about "Warrior/Monk Can solo Underworld".

Well since you found this thread, look a little bit more on this forum. The OP of this thread, Racthoh, posted a build for solo UW as well as videos in another thread. You could also try the 55 W/Mo build, but I haven't had much success with that, which is also another thread on this forum.

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I'm in the boat with the rest of you that get only 1-2 shards per run. Last night someone claimed to have been getting 7 shards on a run, another fellow spider solo'er. I believe it to be true, but don't know what the big change in the number of shards accounts for. I'd say, if you had gotten 3+ shards, your run is worth the time. And if you gotten a rare Crystalline Sword from a chest, then you hit the jackpot. Other than that, the spider legs are the main source of income; Chaos and other things don't run for much nowadays and the occasional gold drop is only a few hundred G unless it has perfect mods.

I checked GuildWiki for a drop rate percentage for the Armored Cave Spiders, but it doesn't have one. They drop:

* Corrosive Spider Leg
* Obsidian Shard
* Pile of Glittering Dust

http://guildwiki.org/wiki/Armored_Cave_Spider

I get around 20~ legs from a clearing of the cave, which is plenty over 1 plat. I don't remember how many spiders there are, but there are a grip; if someone could get an estimate or exact number that would be helpful. I'm going to estimate 30 maybe 35 spiders.

57% chance of getting a corrosive spider leg

Then we get the beautiful glittering dust, which is about the other half of the time. Don't know how many times they dropped out of the total ~35 spiders, since the dust drops in bunches. Lets assume the missing variable is the 1 ( lets be generous), 2 shards from a run. 2/35=5.7%
Which looks to be pretty good, since Aatxes drop Ecto at a rate of 4% (http://guildwiki.org/wiki/Bladed_Aatxe)
Leaving Glittering Dust to be about 39%. These numbers are all just rough, rough estimates; I plan to do more recording once I have time to play and have favor.

But back to those that are getting 7 shards per run, that is 20% drop rate

I mean randomness is one thing ... Then run where I got only one shard was my second time in FoW; the first time I could not get past the skales well enough, so I don't know of farming script kicked in or not.

-x

sheepysheepy · Mar 09, 2006, 09:41 PM // 21:41

i get around 3-4 a run, i've farmed before but would not consider myself a farmer, could just be antifarm

Jedit · Mar 09, 2006, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by XeNoGeArZ

to those that are getting 7 shards per run, that is 20% drop rate

No, it isn't. That figure will include 15 Driftwoods and 3-5 Dryders on the beach, plus the 3 Dryders and pack of 12 ACS at the cave mouth. There are as I recall six or seven packs in the cave, each comprising a Dryder and six ACS. Lastly, there's the two Shadow Beasts at the end. That gives a total of 79 or 86 kills on the run, or an 8-9% drop rate.

I've been lucky enough to get four Shards in one run once. I imagine seven is rare but not unfeasible.

XeNoGeArZ · Mar 09, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

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Originally Posted by Jedit

No, it isn't. That figure will include 15 Driftwoods and 3-5 Dryders on the beach, plus the 3 Dryders and pack of 12 ACS at the cave mouth. There are as I recall six or seven packs in the cave, each comprising a Dryder and six ACS. Lastly, there's the two Shadow Beasts at the end. That gives a total of 79 or 86 kills on the run, or an 8-9% drop rate.

I've been lucky enough to get four Shards in one run once. I imagine seven is rare but not unfeasible.

It's true I did fight the driftwoods and dryder's on every one of my runs, but I never got a shard from them; only in the cave with the armored spiders. As I said these are just rough, rough estimates from MY run (my numbers). And so I am relating my shard count to my spider count, and ASSUMING someone got 7 shards on spiders only, that would equate to that rough 20 percentage. Don't be so quick to refute something when I stated these numbers weren't set in stone in the first place!

On these runs, from my experience only, I would consider myself "pretty lucky" for Doubter Dryders to drop anything. As for the Shadow Beasts at the end, I didn't even know people tried to kill them; I only assumed a run to the cave to kill all the spiders (hence "spider run"). Driftwoods run in packs of 3 and there are a number of them, but not a big enough number compared to the Armored Spiders.

Jedit · Mar 10, 2006, 12:11 AM // 00:11

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Originally Posted by XeNoGeArZ

It's true I did fight the driftwoods and dryder's on every one of my runs, but I never got a shard from them; only in the cave with the armored spiders.

That's unlucky. For me, Driftwoods if anything drop Shards more often than ACSs. I've frequently made back the cost of a failed run by getting a Shard before reaching the cave.