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linkid · Jan 25, 2006, 11:08 PM // 23:08

Possibly with severe artery (or some condition) on two spiders around you at the same time, you may never need to use Healing Signet. Using I Will Survive! and Victory is Mine!.
In 30 second cycle, there would be:
30 seconds of -4 regen from poison (240 hp degeneration).
Should be 0 damage from attacks
2 of 50 x 2 or so hp heals from Victory is Mine! (and 2 of 5 energy)
10 seconds of +3 regen from I Will Survive! (60hp regeneration, for 5 energy).
That's +20hp (and 5 energy) every 30 seconds... if you do it immediately after cooldown.

But you might still want Healing Signet getting to the coast and spiders, so I don't really know.
Hopefully no calculation errors.

Ryuho_The_Zetsuei · Jan 29, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19

I was just wondering, is this build your original idea, cuz i was using this build long before it had ever been posted. But i do not believe the idea came from you.... Im not sure, i would love 2 credit u 4 this, but i just cant be sure, since everyone wants credit for this one...

Rape of Faith · Jan 30, 2006, 02:44 AM // 02:44

It's Racthoh. I bet he did figure it out on his own. He also figured out solo UW with a W/N, solo Ring of Fire with another W/* build. He's a good builder.

Senator Tom · Jan 30, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryuho_The_Zetsuei

I was just wondering, is this build your original idea, cuz i was using this build long before it had ever been posted. But i do not believe the idea came from you.... Im not sure, i would love 2 credit u 4 this, but i just cant be sure, since everyone wants credit for this one...

i acctually created this build, i told racthoh to make the thread and take credit for my discoveries though

Avarre · Jan 30, 2006, 03:57 AM // 03:57

Lies, its really the work of shady SMS members behind the scenes

as you can see, Racthoh isn't that awesome in reality

got lah · Jan 30, 2006, 06:52 AM // 06:52

lmfao. you have got to be kidding me. Ract stole your build? lolololololo I've KNOWN that the damn build existed for a long time now =)

Gildor Took · Jan 30, 2006, 07:04 AM // 07:04

im thinking he was sarcastic

Racthoh · Jan 30, 2006, 07:13 AM // 07:13

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Originally Posted by Avarre

Lies, its really the work of shady SMS members behind the scenes

as you can see, Racthoh isn't that awesome in reality

That's the last time I talk in front of anyone... that's a photoshop, honestly...

The original post of that build was last edited on my guild's site on the 25th of October. I hadn't posted it until I had the build down and deaths were minimal. I had been testing it in groups that would quit after the forgemaster, so I had a clear path to the hardest part of the cave to "challenge" myself with. Prehaps I've stumbled upon something that several people have already been doing well then, this is how I did it and I'm telling everyone how I did it.

Read the UW solo one as well, then make your conclusions as to whether I'm just stealing what I've written here. I know other FoW solo guides have popped up elsewhere, and I've heard of warriors soloing other parts of FoW before but not the cave on the beach. And whether or not that's true is a different story on its own. So again, just read some of my posts, other guides... then make your conclusion again. That's all I ask.

If that still doesn't convince you, I could send you an extensive screenie from my guild's forums, which details how I've been using that identical build since before the 9th of September, along with all of the responses. I wasn't farming spiders at that time, merely proof that I came upon the design quite some time ago. This was also before the boost to Dolyak Signet's strength, which plays a key role in the build.

dont feel no pain · Jan 30, 2006, 09:56 AM // 09:56

ROFL I REALY CANT STOP LAUGHING , HEHEHE IS JUST SO FUNNY , nah guys give him a break hes genuine. hehehee rofl

striderkaaru · Jan 30, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

regarding ryuho's claim, there is a chance that he could have been using this build for a long time as well. i don't mean any offense at this rac, but the *build* itself is pretty standard. galrath, final, and hundred blades is a popular combo amongst sword warriors. dolyak + watch yourself is a common armor boosting combo for solo farmers and tankers, and healing sig is one of only a few options a warrior has for self healing.

so, whereas the build itself is nothing exceptional, it's the particular farm run and strategies that rac deserves credit for. i wouldn't be surprised if other warriors out there in tyria are running around with this particular build. it is a very solid build, after all. but honestly, how many people out there will idle in toa and think to themsleves, "hmm... i think i will waste 1k and run through a dangerous beach filled with 2-elite carrying skales and try to clear an obscure tunnel filled with spiders today."?

so maybe ryuho has been using this same build for a while. however, unless he can show proof of himself soloing fow cave spiders before any of rac's posts here or in our guild forums, i think rac takes undeniable credit for the farm run.

dont feel no pain · Jan 30, 2006, 05:43 PM // 17:43

to be honest what i acauly gain from this thread was running information and a farming location , not a build , but thats cool cause i never would had found out. thanks ractoch

Racthoh · Jan 30, 2006, 05:50 PM // 17:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by striderkaaru

regarding ryuho's claim, there is a chance that he could have been using this build for a long time as well. i don't mean any offense at this rac, but the *build* itself is pretty standard. galrath, final, and hundred blades is a popular combo amongst sword warriors. dolyak + watch yourself is a common armor boosting combo for solo farmers and tankers, and healing sig is one of only a few options a warrior has for self healing.

I think that's why I love the build so much; it's so easy to use, and it works pretty well everywhere. The weakness of the defense is Soothing Images, Sympathetic Visage, and Ignorance. The offense is only hindered by typical warrior flaws.

Just makes me mad it took me so long to happen upon such a simple build.

However, I would prefer if the thread not become a debate about where the credit should go. Let it remain as a discussion thread where players who are struggling with the basics of it can get the answers they deserve. It takes more than a simple farmer to get this area working for them, and I take solace in the fact knowing that what knowledge I have divulged on them has helped develop a better warrior.

striderkaaru · Jan 30, 2006, 05:57 PM // 17:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racthoh

However, I would prefer if the thread not become a debate about where the credit should go. Let it remain as a discussion thread where players who are struggling with the basics of it can get the answers they deserve.

agreed.

i was just pointing out that people shouldn't fight over the build. it is a rather simple, yet very effective one.

Adrian Validus · Jan 31, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

Yea aight uhuh it's real shit G.
I Thank you for this great way of farming FOW.. I edited just a lil for my axe's but the setup is great.. I took out all the driftwood's and dryder's on the beach.. @ the Tunnel i am confronted with another 4 dryder's.. I can't get the last one without getting a massive group of spiders on my ass..
And Yes I am wielding a longbow and NO I am not even near them with my agro bubble..

I bet it's just patience and i'm maybe a lil too much of an eager beaver but even if i get killed there i have had some good drops..

First run.. 2 Shards.. (only took out 6 but hey)
2nd run 3 Shards, Gold Shadow Bow, Purple Chaos Axe
3rd run 3 Shards, Gold Shadow shield..

You do the match..

Racthoh u are a heck of guy.. shame on the jealous noobs that say different..

Thx

Racthoh · Jan 31, 2006, 09:48 AM // 09:48

For the last dryder (I hope I'm thinking of the right one), you have to remember that if your aggro bubble touches where he was standing even after death that it will trigger the spawn. Hug the edge of the beach if need be, go around the jagged piece of uh... earth that's sticking out of the ground and then pull the dryder.

Regardless of what you do (from my testing anyway), once you pop the first group of spiders it pops them all.

Adrian Validus · Jan 31, 2006, 10:13 AM // 10:13

Ok thx for the add. Support..

I'll be trying this some more tnight if we have the favor and i'll be kicking back 50% of the loot

Adrian

riddler251 · Jan 31, 2006, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryuho_The_Zetsuei

I was just wondering, is this build your original idea, cuz i was using this build long before it had ever been posted. But i do not believe the idea came from you.... Im not sure, i would love 2 credit u 4 this, but i just cant be sure, since everyone wants credit for this one...

LOL! in the big world if u don't get on the ball someone will steal ur ideas b4 u can do ne thing wiht them, and then ur F@#ked. Thats how life works. If u ppl wanted credit for this build and it was truely ne one elses idea than u should have got on the ball and posted it b4 Racthoh could. Thats why in the real world they have a little thing called patents and copyrights. Even they don;t do u any good if u delay on taking credit for ur work.

riddler251 · Jan 31, 2006, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Man I love the build been using it for just about 2 weeks now and have made over 200k + still have lot of items I need to sell (bout 100-150k worth). Hey and I would say that pretty good, considering America never has the favor when I get on.

Mahanaxar · Jan 31, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Obviously the build is nothing really special, but the concept of a lone warrior farming FoW is crazy.

And Racthoh didn't simply sketch the idea, but he developed a fully detailed, 100% successfull strategy to complete the run.
The stroke of genius is not the build itself, but to use that build with a lone warrior *into the fissure of woe*.

So stop bitching about the credit and try finding out something like this.
And sorry for my crap english.

Fallen_Angel · Jan 31, 2006, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adrian Validus

@ the Tunnel i am confronted with another 4 dryder's.. I can't get the last one without getting a massive group of spiders on my ass..
And Yes I am wielding a longbow and NO I am not even near them with my agro bubble..

If this is the one I'm thinking of (there are three at the entrance and then a fourth one a little further into the tunnel), the fourth one always makes the initial spider groups spawn for me. Once I attack this initial groups is when the whole lot then spawn.

I usually ignore this last dryder until after the spiders are all dead and then take it out when entering the tunnel. It just means that you have to be more careful of it there if you stay around the tunnel entrance, although that's not really a hassle as I usually run back near the ghost to pick off individual groups of spiders.