Curse

CRAzY KeeSTeR · Dec 05, 2006, 03:01 AM // 03:01

oops thought my above post hadnt come thru so i retyped it oh but i guess it did ... my bad

ogami_ito · Dec 05, 2006, 03:25 AM // 03:25

OK. Tried this last night. Never did 55 farming before so it took me about an hour or more to get the hang of how this works. More difficult than warrior Cyclone Axe/Live Vicariously type farming for sure. However, I’m disappointed…none of those Marga coast bosses dropped a green. And I’m really really trying to get Bubahl’s drop…a cool-looking earth-damage scythe.

I tried it with the undead mass in the Vahlen the Silent, but the enchants WERE definitely stripped. I tried incorporating Vow of Silence…does not work. IF I could do this area, I would swap out Reapers Sweep for Heart of Holy Flame…double damage against undead

I tried hidden city. Its much tougher and nothing good dropped, but I only got throught the first section.

Can anyone suggested easier places to use this that will produce money?

«Ripskin · Dec 05, 2006, 04:11 AM // 04:11

lol I never argue. Or flame. It's too immature for me. I'm just making a point.

CRAzY KeeSTeR · Dec 05, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

im gunna say u need balthazars spirit and essence bond i tested it with zealous vow and a nada u gotta cast too much and spread ur attributes out alot if some1 else wants to try and come up with an all nightfall build like this using zealous its prolly possible just i ddint have much luck or i just havent gotten used to it yet

Etrik · Dec 05, 2006, 05:51 AM // 05:51

Zealous Vow is really the only option for NF-only characters, sadly.

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hey well i just killed several aataxes using the normal build but i took out eremites attack and added mirage cloak to counter their spike dmg and also to prevent as many interrupts especially of prot spirit but i can definitely say it works it takes awhile but it works only problem i see is the nightmares
i brought a +15% dmg while enchanted +20% dmg customised protective rod to kill the nightmares from a distance it works but it u dont recognze em early enuff they can kill u very easily if u dont get off a perfectly time prot spirit cast after they rend u
dont know how it would do vs grasping darknesses and smite crawlers but im wondering if vow of silence might be in order???

Just kill aatxes before aggroing darknesses, it's easy then. And you can't use Vow of Silence, it's too hard to time your casts between Vow casts and it's not worth it for 3 Darknesses. And yeah, I think just re-applying PS after you get hit by Rend is your best bet - 30 sec recharge on Rend ftw!

I'm gonna try an UW run later.. tho you definately need to make small pulls - 8 smites would simply rape you if you lag for as much as 1/2 second and don't get that Mystic Sweep off for the healing from Vigor. Meh

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

OK. Tried this last night. Never did 55 farming before so it took me about an hour or more to get the hang of how this works. More difficult than warrior Cyclone Axe/Live Vicariously type farming for sure. However, I’m disappointed…none of those Marga coast bosses dropped a green. And I’m really really trying to get Bubahl’s drop…a cool-looking earth-damage scythe.

It is definately not harder than warrior farming... and just fyi, no item is a guaranteed drop. None.

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

I tried it with the undead mass in the Vahlen the Silent, but the enchants WERE definitely stripped. I tried incorporating Vow of Silence…does not work. IF I could do this area, I would swap out Reapers Sweep for Heart of Holy Flame…double damage against undead

The only way you can have an enchantment removed is via Rending Sweep if you have Hexes on, but that never happened to me >.< And I don't know about swapping Reaper's, might be a good idea. Sub Eremite's and Reaper's out for Heart and Wounding Strike? :/

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I tried hidden city. Its much tougher and nothing good dropped, but I only got throught the first section.

It is most certainly not hard. I find it too easy - the only hard part is the Paragon boss', and maybe the Dervish boss' groups - too many Ethers, but it's doable.

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Can anyone suggested easier places to use this that will produce money?

Those are the best places. Please, don't have a 'Why didn't I get 5 golds and 2 greens on my first run through Region A??????' mentality, it won't help you, you'll only be downed by it. Farming in online games means doing something repeatedly in order to get goodies. Repeatedly being the key word there.

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Originally Posted by «Ripskin

lol I never argue. Or flame. It's too immature for me. I'm just making a point.

And what exactly was your point, my good man? And judging by the tone in your previous post, you were flaming and arguing.

Edit: People, please make an account on guildwiki and vote for the build. It takes about 2 minutes, seriously.

Here's how to vote: instead of the last #''(your vote here)'' under the Favoured section, type in #XXXXX ~~~~, where you replace XXXXX with whatever you reckon will help the build. Give tips, say how much you like it, praise it, say you built a shrine to Ecksor, whatever. Pretty please with a cherry on top?

ogami_ito · Dec 05, 2006, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by Etrik

It is definately not harder than warrior farming... and just fyi, no item is a guaranteed drop. None.

Yes it is. Warrior cyclone axe/bonnettis/live voracious farm trolls and vermin nets $$$, and if very very easy and quick. Against those mobs. This 130 Derv farming seems to be able to handle more types of mobs though. But if you miss your protective spirit cast, you are DEAD.

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Originally Posted by Etrik

The only way you can have an enchantment removed is via Rending Sweep if you have Hexes on, but that never happened to me >.< And I don't know about swapping Reaper's, might be a good idea. Sub Eremite's and Reaper's out for Heart and Wounding Strike? :/

Well...something is removing the enchants when I go there. And it gets removed quick. As far as what you can use here...just saying that if you sub out Reapers for Heart of Holy Fury, then each of your attacks will do 2X against the undead, plus the enchants AOE, which does 100 armor ignoring damage against undead.

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Originally Posted by Etrik

Those are the best places. Please, don't have a 'Why didn't I get 5 golds and 2 greens on my first run through Region A??????' mentality, it won't help you, you'll only be downed by it. Farming in online games means doing something repeatedly in order to get goodies. Repeatedly being the key word there.

I will try more of course. Its fun. I just wanted... betterresults. I think its too early to tell if those are the best places though. There are many other areas in Factions and Prophesies to consider.

Michel Longshorts · Dec 05, 2006, 01:13 PM // 13:13

Question: Why Eremite's attack? Surely I thought Victorious Sweep would be the better option. While you can do +30 damage while you have 3+ adjacent creatures you are fighting, with victorious sweep you will have a steady +29 damage no matter the numbers. Costs same energy and same recharge.

Just had a run which made this build incredibly promising for me

ogami_ito · Dec 05, 2006, 04:56 PM // 16:56

Wooooohoooooo!

edit: how the frig do I get the image to appear in the post instead of as an attachment?

Cuthalion · Dec 05, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

Does this build works on Vermins ?

Jelloblimp · Dec 05, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20

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Originally Posted by Cuthalion

Does this build works on Vermins ?

Do vermins health steal? Do they strip enchantments? Do they heal themselves alot?

If you answered no on all 3 questions its doable.

Cuthalion · Dec 05, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by Jelloblimp

Do vermins health steal? Do they strip enchantments? Do they heal themselves alot?

If you answered no on all 3 questions its doable.

Sorry, but I never farm Vermins, so don't be so aggressive please ...

Railin · Dec 05, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

I've been using this build for a few runs now. No drops yet though. The only thing that's really annoying is the groups of Storm Jaricanda or whatever that keep knocking you down. How do you avoid that? I pull them away but they just keep "slowly" coming closer to me and eventually aggro.

Etrik · Dec 05, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

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Originally Posted by Michel Longshorts

Question: Why Eremite's attack? Surely I thought Victorious Sweep would be the better option. While you can do +30 damage while you have 3+ adjacent creatures you are fighting, with victorious sweep you will have a steady +29 damage no matter the numbers. Costs same energy and same recharge.

Just had a run which made this build incredibly promising for me
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/a...d=11653253 20

Eremite's Attack is a 3/4-sec cast. If you need a sudden boost of health from Mystic Vigor, just use Eremite's/Mystic. That's why Eremite's is better

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Originally Posted by Cuthalion

Sorry, but I never farm Vermins, so don't be so aggressive please ...

I think he was just being funny :S. And you can check the info on guildwiki. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Vermin

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Originally Posted by Railin

I've been using this build for a few runs now. No drops yet though. The only thing that's really annoying is the groups of Storm Jaricanda or whatever that keep knocking you down. How do you avoid that? I pull them away but they just keep "slowly" coming closer to me and eventually aggro.

Use PS just as you get LSurge on you, take the elementalists out first?

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

Yes it is. Warrior cyclone axe/bonnettis/live voracious farm trolls and vermin nets $$$, and if very very easy and quick. Against those mobs. This 130 Derv farming seems to be able to handle more types of mobs though. But if you miss your protective spirit cast, you are DEAD.

This build is just as easy and quick, if you know how to use it. And don't miss your PS cast then ^_^

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

Well...something is removing the enchants when I go there. And it gets removed quick. As far as what you can use here...just saying that if you sub out Reapers for Heart of Holy Fury, then each of your attacks will do 2X against the undead, plus the enchants AOE, which does 100 armor ignoring damage against undead.

Sounds like bad luck on your side/good luck on mine. I rarely found both Thought Leeches and the Dervish mummies. Try zoning till you get a lucky spawn? And 100 AI damage/double damage won't help if you die, will it

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I will try more of course. Its fun. I just wanted... betterresults. I think its too early to tell if those are the best places though. There are many other areas in Factions and Prophesies to consider.

Trust me, they are the best places. It's fun. You can also just farm stuff in Marga Coast/Sunward Marches [Tusked Hunters/Howlers in Marches, anything but Kournans in Marga]. I don't know about Factions/Proph, and this is a build meant for soloing bosses originally, not trolls in Talus Chute. Please keep that in mind

And as a general note, let's keep it friendly [not civil, that's not enough]. We're all here to contribute to making the build better, not so we can have a go at eachother, and yes, I realize I've done that myself. My appologies.

Ecksor · Dec 06, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10

Lol Etrik, I liked that making a shrine of me comment. I bet if we switched out Reaper's Sweep for Avatar of Balthazar we would have a great undead farmer. Just an idea though.

«Ripskin · Dec 06, 2006, 03:24 AM // 03:24

I've been farming for about an hour. Haven't died. Killed buhbai or w/e chor and lunto every time. Never gotten a gold or green. A few good purples with armor +5s and 14^50s though.

ogami_ito · Dec 06, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Who is not being friendly?

BTW, 55 Monk is way better than this and if you don’t agree with me you are a NAZI!

(that’s a joke BTW. I’ve never even played a 55 Monk)

About Vermin… someone should try it there. But also note that Vermin have knock-down, so I think you would need to sub-out Reaper’s Sweep for some anti-knock-down skill. Otherwise, you will be on the ground for like 10 seconds.

Vermin farming is basically doing AOE damage to many many low-lvl mobs that drop cash. But this Dervish build only does AOE to maximum three targets. To me, it seems that killing a few Djini’s in Forgotten City and in Mirror of Something (outside Honor Hill…and I’m at work now so I don’t know the name) gives about 300-400 gold a during a 10 minute run, and there is a lot of variance as to what drops. On the other hand, my average Vermin run for me is about 25 minutes (with a rezone) and usually nets about 2000 gold. But vermin runs never drop any good items.

I wonder though…there is a warrior boss in the Jade Sea area that drops a sword (never dropped for me though) that this build can probably take on… I’ve killed him with a Grenths Touch warrior build, but this build would most probably work much better. His name is Ssasi or something like that. You would need to pull him with a bow because there are some spell casters in his group (don’t know about mesmers / necros though). And if he does not drop a green, will not much profit.

I wonder also about killing the Arrahhsh Mountainclub can be soled… I don’t think there were any enchant removals there.

In fact, any place that an old 55 Monk could solo this build should be able to solo. But I agree with Op…this area has 4 bosses to solo, each with a potential green. That’s darn good for green farming.

ogami_ito · Dec 06, 2006, 04:25 AM // 04:25

Who is not being friendly?

BTW, 55 Monk is way better than this and if you don’t agree with me you are a NAZI!

(that’s a joke BTW. I’ve never even played a 55 Monk)

About Vermin… someone should try it there. But also note that Vermin have knock-down, so I think you would need to sub-out Reaper’s Sweep for some anti-knock-down skill. Otherwise, you will be on the ground for like 10 seconds.

Vermin farming is basically doing AOE damage to many many low-lvl mobs that drop cash. But this Dervish build only does AOE to maximum three targets. To me, it seems that killing a few Djini’s in Forgotten City and in Mirror of Something (outside Honor Hill…and I’m at work now so I don’t know the name) gives about 300-400 gold a during a 10 minute run, and there is a lot of variance as to what drops. On the other hand, my average Vermin run for me is about 25 minutes (with a rezone) and usually nets about 2000 gold. But vermin runs never drop any good items.

I wonder though…there is a warrior boss in the Jade Sea area that drops a sword (never dropped for me though) that this build can probably take on… I’ve killed him with a Grenths Touch warrior build, but this build would most probably work much better. His name is Ssasi or something like that. You would need to pull him with a bow because there are some spell casters in his group (don’t know about mesmers / necros though). And if he does not drop a green, will not much profit.

I wonder also about killing the Arrahhsh Mountainclub can be soled… I don’t think there were any enchant removals there.

In fact, any place that an old 55 Monk could solo this build should be able to solo. But I agree with Op…this area has 4 bosses to solo, each with a potential green. That’s darn good for green farming.

Etrik · Dec 06, 2006, 06:43 AM // 06:43

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Originally Posted by Ecksor

Lol Etrik, I liked that making a shrine of me comment. I bet if we switched out Reaper's Sweep for Avatar of Balthazar we would have a great undead farmer. Just an idea though.

I can put that in the Variants section on guildwiki. Hang on, I'll do that in a sec. And

about the shrine thingy.

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Who is not being friendly?

Alot of us :P

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

About Vermin… someone should try it there. But also note that Vermin have knock-down, so I think you would need to sub-out Reaper’s Sweep for some anti-knock-down skill. Otherwise, you will be on the ground for like 10 seconds.

Vermin's only KD is Entangling Asp - 1s KD and a 20s recharge. They usually go in packs of three too, so that's 3 seconds of KD every 20 seconds. Not bad, imho

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

Vermin farming is basically doing AOE damage to many many low-lvl mobs that drop cash. But this Dervish build only does AOE to maximum three targets. To me, it seems that killing a few Djini’s in Forgotten City and in Mirror of Something (outside Honor Hill…and I’m at work now so I don’t know the name) gives about 300-400 gold a during a 10 minute run, and there is a lot of variance as to what drops. On the other hand, my average Vermin run for me is about 25 minutes (with a rezone) and usually nets about 2000 gold. But vermin runs never drop any good items.

Vermins come in packs of 3-5 usually. So it's np if you only hit 3 at a time, it's still good enough and faster than most builds

. And in 25 minutes in the Hidden City of Ahdashim I generally get 1 Vabbian key, 2k, 1 purp, 1 gold, alot of essences and purple/gold armors. Not to mention Jeweled Daggers that salvage to rubies/sapphires ^^

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

I wonder though…there is a warrior boss in the Jade Sea area that drops a sword (never dropped for me though) that this build can probably take on… I’ve killed him with a Grenths Touch warrior build, but this build would most probably work much better. His name is Ssasi or something like that. You would need to pull him with a bow because there are some spell casters in his group (don’t know about mesmers / necros though). And if he does not drop a green, will not much profit.

Sskai, Dragon's Birth. I'm not sure you can farm him with the mobs pounding on you, the ritualists use a spirit that does armor-ignoring damage [Destruction], an item spell that does armor-ignoring damage when dropped and a weapon spell that steals life. So, you'll have to pull him. Tho I'm not sure. If you haven't died at all, you might be able to do it.

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

I wonder also about killing the Arrahhsh Mountainclub can be soled… I don’t think there were any enchant removals there.

Probably. Worth a shot

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Originally Posted by ogami_ito

In fact, any place that an old 55 Monk could solo this build should be able to solo. But I agree with Op…this area has 4 bosses to solo, each with a potential green. That’s darn good for green farming.

The greens in Marga Coast aren't the best. But they're good, I guess. I'm gonna go farm Leilon some more for his hawt scythe. Me want.

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Originally Posted by «Ripskin

I've been farming for about an hour. Haven't died. Killed buhbai or w/e chor and lunto every time. Never gotten a gold or green. A few good purples with armor +5s and 14^50s though.

Bad luck today man. We've all been there. I usually get greens just as I'm about to give up hope..

Oblivion117 · Dec 06, 2006, 09:40 AM // 09:40

I personally farm the crap out of the hekets in The Floodplain of Mahnkelon and a few of the bosses.

Boss list of the ones I have soloed in this area are:

Terob Roundback
Jerneh Nightbringer
Robah Hardback
Zelnehlun Fastfoot
Buhon Icelord

pretty easy just died once and used max scythe +dmg enchanted 20% enchanted with lengthen deep wound mod an zealous as a second scythe

right now im trying it with wounding strike just to see if i farm a lil faster.

Oblivion117 · Dec 06, 2006, 09:51 AM // 09:51

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right now im trying it with wounding strike just to see if i farm a lil faster.

bad idea. lol doesnt work. this build trully needs no work i love it.