Curse

Nokkers · Dec 03, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

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Originally Posted by sk8er3577

hey. i cant get essence bond nad bathazars spirit..
i unlocked them with faction but icant buy them anywhere...
do i need to go into prophecies to get them??

you need prophecies to get essence bond and balthazar's spirit. BS can be picked up at Lions Arch and EB at Beetletun.

Etrik · Dec 03, 2006, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by Nokkers

you need prophecies to get essence bond and balthazar's spirit. BS can be picked up at Lions Arch and EB at Beetletun.

If you have EB unlocked, you can get it at LA

And people - for the love of God - vote on guildwiki.

Here is the build and this is the discussion page, where you can vote for favoured/unfavoured. Please vote so we can get it out of the untested builds section.

«Ripskin · Dec 04, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

I'm having some troubles with this...

I can do this easily with dp. But that takes too long and racks up deaths way too fast.

I keep lining up the enemies so I'm hitting every one of them but still dying. Do I need to buy armor with no hp bonus at all or something? I think I might just be doing something wrong.

RebelHero · Dec 04, 2006, 03:18 AM // 03:18

Awesome build. One minor thing I would change though:

Original Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
11+3(14) Scythe Mastery
9+3+1(13) Earth Prayers
6+3(9) Mysticism

New Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
10+1+3(14) Scythe Mastery
10+3(13) Earth Prayers
7+3(10) Mysticism (or wherever you want so 6+3(9) and one or two extra ranks in wind prayers)

Its just is more efficient in attribute point use.

Etrik · Dec 04, 2006, 04:54 AM // 04:54

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Originally Posted by «Ripskin

I'm having some troubles with this...

I can do this easily with dp. But that takes too long and racks up deaths way too fast.

I keep lining up the enemies so I'm hitting every one of them but still dying. Do I need to buy armor with no hp bonus at all or something? I think I might just be doing something wrong.

How are you dieing? Do you not use Protective Spirit + Mystic Regeneration + Mystic Vigor? The only way you can die is excessive degen (>10 degen), energy degen [maybe], about 20 people hitting you at the very same time, or enchantment removal. Make sure you're not in an area with enchantment removal, as that definately kills you. Where were you farming? And dieing once takes maybe 20 seconds [including the run back to where you were] normally

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Originally Posted by RebelHero

Awesome build. One minor thing I would change though:

Original Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
11+3(14) Scythe Mastery
9+3+1(13) Earth Prayers
6+3(9) Mysticism

New Attributes
9 Protection Prayers
10+1+3(14) Scythe Mastery
10+3(13) Earth Prayers
7+3(10) Mysticism (or wherever you want so 6+3(9) and one or two extra ranks in wind prayers)

Its just is more efficient in attribute point use.

Where's the change in that? O_o You still get as much energy from Enchants ending and Mystic Vigor still only heals you for 5/enchantment. I see no reason, other than having less spare points (tho you can get that down to 0 if you put 3 in Wind Prayers). I'm not even sure you can get 10 Mysticism.

littlenub113 · Dec 04, 2006, 06:25 AM // 06:25

Hey guys im new to this game so i dont really know much about this thing called "farming" but can u guys tell me whats the difference between using this build to kill the boss and using other kind of builds, and why do i have do die before killing some of the bosses and does "soloing" means i have to go alone or i can bring heroes and henches thank you

Francis Crawford · Dec 04, 2006, 06:47 AM // 06:47

"Farming" really means "hunting". You kill things for profit.

People in this forum overwhelmingly favor and focus on builds where your character goes truly solo. There are a few exceptions in very high-end zones such as the Underworld. I tried starting a thread on more general hero-aided farming and it seems to have fizzled.

novawhiz · Dec 04, 2006, 01:15 PM // 13:15

This looks sweet, but my Dervish isnt far in game.
Im still stuck at Jokunar Diggings. O well, when i get farther ill try it out.

Etrik · Dec 04, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by littlenub113

Hey guys im new to this game so i dont really know much about this thing called "farming" but can u guys tell me whats the difference between using this build to kill the boss and using other kind of builds, and why do i have do die before killing some of the bosses and does "soloing" means i have to go alone or i can bring heroes and henches thank you

Farming means going out into an explorable area and killing a number of enemies, zoning to an outpost and doing it all over again. Solo farming means you go out alone, no other people, no henchies, no heroes. The difference between other builds and this one is that this one can solo alot of areas. Also, you sometimes have to suicide to accumulate Death Penalty and lower your HP to below 130. When you have 130 HP and Protective Spirit on, you take maximum 13 damage every time you are hit. That, however, means that if you get hit 15 times in a time frame of 1 second, you die. Because you get hit for 13x15=195 damage while Mystic Regeneration will only heal you for 30 health/second. So you take a total of 195-30=165 damage, while your health is 130, meaning you die.

If you have 58 hp (the amount of health left after you die once), and get hit 15 times in a time frame of 1 second or less, you will get hit for 5x15=75 damage, whereas Mystic Regeneration will heal you for 30. Thus, you take 75-30=45 damage and have 58 hp, so you don't die. You also get healed by Mystic Vigor.

Hope that cleared things up for you.

darkdawn · Dec 04, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

could this build works withoud those 2 proph. spell?
i only own faction and NF so... any idea of skills hat could replace these?

anyway great build. looks great

«Ripskin · Dec 04, 2006, 11:26 PM // 23:26

Alright.. I agro a group with ps and mystic regen on...

I group them up the best I can and put on vigor.. I attack the queen and usually die right after that.

And um.. this is to chor.. lunto.. behdi... (I must suck at this.. my first solo green farm.)

lennymon · Dec 05, 2006, 12:44 AM // 00:44

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Originally Posted by «Ripskin

Alright.. I agro a group with ps and mystic regen on...

I group them up the best I can and put on vigor.. I attack the queen and usually die right after that.

And um.. this is to chor.. lunto.. behdi... (I must suck at this.. my first solo green farm.)

That'd be right about 3 secs after your prot spirit has expired then.... the hardest part of farming with a lowhp/PS build is learning the timing.

Nokkers · Dec 05, 2006, 12:51 AM // 00:51

with the minimal amount of energy pool (25) you can cast PS, MR, and MV at the same time, then run in and aggro. usually i target the boss and just concentrate on him, unless there's a healer nearby. PS will usually run out first, so re-cast it when you see it flashing. most of the time you wont even need MV, but its still good to have and its only 5e to cast anyways.

On a side note, you can add Exuro Flatus to the list. He goes down quite easily actually. Just gotta watch out for the patrolling shadow groups to the side.

«Ripskin · Dec 05, 2006, 01:18 AM // 01:18

Dude I've been farming before you were born. 55-ing even. This is just new to me.

And I can farm everything in marga now except for buhba or whatever without dying.

Ecksor · Dec 05, 2006, 01:36 AM // 01:36

Please don't start any arguing in this thread. Take it to a PM.

CRAzY KeeSTeR · Dec 05, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

any way to use this in uw??
any skills combos to counter the aataxes evading with ripostes??
hook me up with an uw build if u can figure 1 out

Etrik · Dec 05, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

I'll have to try him, Nokkers.

And Ripskin, if you want to be arrogant, go on. But don't expect anyone to help when you bitch at people for trying to help you out, okay? And you might wanna re-read people's responses to your post, nobody said you're young or anything of the sort, so the 'farming before you were born. 55-ing even' part of your post is plain arrogance. Also, how have you been 55-ing before I was born? I'm farily certain GW's only been out for 2 years, not 19. I also can still not comprehend how you simply always died ;_;.

Wow, some people.

Keep voting on wiki people. And, Ecksor, I'd rather he not PM me. I've also voted on the wiki page, because I technically can vote.. I only posted the build, I'm not it's creator. And, iirc, only creators may not vote [or alt accounts of theirs].

Keester, just attack em again? Their Ripostes have an adrenal cost/10-s recharge, so they're not easily spammable. Don't chain alot of skills though - they WILL interrupt them. Thing is, I don't know if you can take on the Grasping Darknesses. May aswell give it a shot, but if too many are attacking, at the rate at which they attack, it's pretty brutal. Gonna try that too later

littlenub113 · Dec 05, 2006, 01:53 AM // 01:53

thx Etrik for clearing this up for me now i understand somewhat and i have one more request, can some one post the ultimate build for this with only the skills from the nightfall version cause thats the only one i have thank you

CRAzY KeeSTeR · Dec 05, 2006, 02:00 AM // 02:00

well for energy management for ppl without prophecies maybe for ur elite run zealous vow??
with10 in wind i think its 4 energy per hit foe but -4 regen but still if u hit 3 foes that 12 energy +zealous scythe= 15 eenrgy if u hit 3 foes and at 14 i think it is in wind u get 5 energy per hit +zealous mod= 18 energy if u hit 3 ppl
so that is fairly good energy management i think i havent tested this so i dunno but its only a suggestion for those of u w/o prophecies
i may cap zealous vow and try the build with it as it will free up 2 spots on my bar that could be used for other skills
if any1 tries this b4 plz say how it went

CRAzY KeeSTeR · Dec 05, 2006, 02:31 AM // 02:31

hey well i just killed several aataxes using the normal build but i took out eremites attack and added mirage cloak to counter their spike dmg and also to prevent as many interrupts especially of prot spirit but i can definitely say it works it takes awhile but it works only problem i see is the nightmares
i brought a +15% dmg while enchanted +20% dmg customised protective rod to kill the nightmares from a distance it works but it u dont recognze em early enuff they can kill u very easily if u dont get off a perfectly time prot spirit cast after they rend u
dont know how it would do vs grasping darknesses and smite crawlers but im wondering if vow of silence might be in order???