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Old Mar 14, 2010, 09:59 PM // 21:59   #1
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Default Post-Nerf Froggie Run - It's Duo-able!

We've been working on some builds and came up with this for the Bogroot Dungeon SC.


A/Mo Runner+Bonder
12+1+3 Shadow Arts,12 Protection Prayer, 3 Deadly Arts
- Deadly Paradox
- Shadow Form
- Shroud of Distress
- Shadow Sanctuary
- ''I Am Unstoppable!''
- Dark Escape
- Balthazar's Spirit
- Life Bond

E/Me Sliver
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- Obsidian Flesh
- Elemental Lord
- Sliver Armor
- Armor of Earth
- Stoneflesh Aura
- Mental Block
- Channeling
- Mantra of Resolve

The builds aren't completed yet, but the test run was a success:

We're currently working on the builds, ''softening the edges'' at the run in level 1 and the difficult parts of level 2

Note: An Essence of Celerity was used on level 2.
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Old Mar 14, 2010, 11:54 PM // 23:54   #2
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I know I won't ever do this since I am way too unmotivated to play this game anymore, but good job regardless.
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 02:00 AM // 02:00   #3
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agreed.

here about update and sf nerf and come back to forums to check out gw is doing.

then i see 100 threads with new SF/obby builds.

/uninstall again
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 02:21 AM // 02:21   #4
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You guys realize that me and my friend got a 21 minute run with discord way with an essence, right? Not that hard of a dungeon to complete in HM still...
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 03:36 AM // 03:36   #5
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red/blue candy on level 1 run?

cool keep it coming.
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 04:25 AM // 04:25   #6
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Very nice, glad to see these farms coming back
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 03:46 PM // 15:46   #7
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You guys realize that me and my friend got a 21 minute run with discord way with an essence, right? Not that hard of a dungeon to complete in HM still...
Why would we realise that? Are you famous or something? Good job guys, any tactics or plain run and kill?
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 04:19 PM // 16:19   #8
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its done similar to the old frogrun with running through to lvl 2 and then to the key keeper ect, as a solo runner it's not that easy to make it through the Incubus, tho with some timing its possible. and at the beetles have Disenchantment, a spirit that causes problems. But as SF doesnt drain ur life when its ripped, its not a real problem, just dont forget to recast SF before u aggro the frogs again

and about the Discord run, like said, this was a test run, our 1st try of doing it duo, so it tends to be sloppier

The red rock candies arent such a bad idea but tkinking about it, its a farm run, we intend to make more money out of it than spend it so it might not be so wise to use em.

Any ideas are welcome and you are welcome to try it out if you are up to the challenge.
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 04:48 PM // 16:48   #9
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Well a cupcake is cheaper than rock candy.

Also, ignored the Discordway guy. Jealous cos you did it in 19 mins with 2 people on a test run, took him 21 mins with a full party :P
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 06:00 PM // 18:00   #10
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YAY i love u bogroots is my fav run good job maybe we will see some runs in doomlore.
@run time i used to solo and get 9-11mins therefore duo should be able to do the same
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 09:39 PM // 21:39   #11
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Well a cupcake is cheaper than rock candy.

Also, ignored the Discordway guy. Jealous cos you did it in 19 mins with 2 people on a test run, took him 21 mins with a full party :P
What's the difference between two people and two people with heroes?
And the only reason I mentioned it is because the time says 19 minutes...why bother optimizing both builds and training for a run when you can do it much safer at just about the same speed, and get drops at the same time.
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 10:28 PM // 22:28   #12
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What's the difference between two people and two people with heroes?
And the only reason I mentioned it is because the time says 19 minutes...why bother optimizing both builds and training for a run when you can do it much safer at just about the same speed, and get drops at the same time.
The difference is that you can bring 6 leechers which pay you mad, resulting in the fact that you can get 20000% more profit by doing it duo?
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Old Mar 15, 2010, 11:21 PM // 23:21   #13
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The difference is that you can bring 6 leechers which pay you mad, resulting in the fact that you can get 20000% more profit by doing it duo?
This is true...
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Old Mar 16, 2010, 04:22 PM // 16:22   #14
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This is true...
This is what I eventually was getting at. Bogroots is generally ~10k for a run. So if this can be optimised to a 30 minute run you get 6 leechers @10k = 60k. Split between 2 is 30k for each run. That coupled with the chance of a Froggie and 60k/hr ain't half bad! And if it can be done quicker with 2 people than 8 people anyway, I'd definitely stick to 2!
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Old Mar 16, 2010, 06:03 PM // 18:03   #15
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pretty sure u can just get a leecher to take life bond and some perma to run first dungeon level and he goes half price and boom u get 60k
also duo is better than heroes and hench cos they steal ur dops.
also if u r gonna take full team just take manly spike team and get it done in 15mins
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 10:42 AM // 10:42   #16
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pretty sure u can just get a leecher to take life bond and some perma to run first dungeon level and he goes half price and boom u get 60k
also duo is better than heroes and hench cos they steal ur dops.
also if u r gonna take full team just take manly spike team and get it done in 15mins
Thing is, no one PUGs SC's for dungeons. Well, only 8 sin teams, and that's rare. It's gonna be much easier find 1 Terra/Perma. Maybe 1 more perma if you want the first level run. Sure if you're in an SC guild there's no need to do this, but a lot of people aren't.
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 04:30 PM // 16:30   #17
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well when i used to run wiht the old sliver build i just got a pug to run first level....so u could just bron an monk?para hero with fallback +other run skillsand bonds then at Khabuus flag him and roll
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 06:54 PM // 18:54   #18
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hey man, i tried with a mate and every time we get to beetles the ele gets crippled and we cannot shrine hop. how did u manage it?

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Old Mar 18, 2010, 07:58 PM // 19:58   #19
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hey man, i tried with a mate and every time we get to beetles the ele gets crippled and we cannot shrine hop. how did u manage it?
As a duo (dsnt work with 3 or more ppl) u only need the sin to run to the Key-shrine and die to transfer both of ye there, after that u get the rest, we're still calculating on how to make it smoother (havn't still done a 2nd run)
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Old Mar 18, 2010, 10:06 PM // 22:06   #20
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k well i tried what u said no luck we just went back to satrt of cave.
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