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Spyda Prince · Apr 08, 2010, 05:08 AM // 05:08

Nice write up, and glad DLway is out now. Congrats and good job to all the DL UW allstars.

Ripy rip · Apr 08, 2010, 06:06 AM // 06:06

grats to all involved

N.W.A · Apr 08, 2010, 06:18 AM // 06:18

gg 25 min Dhuum DLway postnerf!

I had a 13min Mountains + Pools!

Regards, Express

Ungle · Apr 08, 2010, 06:24 AM // 06:24

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Originally Posted by N.W.A

gg 25 min Dhuum DLway postnerf!

I had a 13min Mountains + Pools!

Regards, Express

Pro nabtrixx Express

~Yomi/NabThorin

big bubba monk · Apr 08, 2010, 06:25 AM // 06:25

im glad this shit is finally out now we can form up more often then with just the original 9 being there

X burn babie burn X

Aias · Apr 08, 2010, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Good luck to everyone in getting a 1 conset run! It takes some work.

~Kelli Lynn Marquis (Jamei Does Bondage)

Fear Thorin · Apr 08, 2010, 10:54 AM // 10:54

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Originally Posted by Risus

Good job, builds work. My only problem (this is editorial, just look at the first 2 phrases if you want my review): You play UW either for money or for fun. For money, using personal cons is counterproductive. For fun, you aren't focusing on speed unless that's whats fun.

But either way, nice job.

To people that want candy-less builds: You won't get a 1 cons run without being jacked up on candy.

This will never be PUG'd (I hope, unless those stupid idiots decide its a better PUG than terraway). I will never join a PUG team of this. Ever.

NOT True, The Personal Cons are Recommended, If You Want Your Area Done Really Fast, Use them. If You Dont And Noone Does ON The whole Team, you can still get a 40-50 min run easy.

BrettM · Apr 08, 2010, 12:36 PM // 12:36

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Originally Posted by Fear Thorin

NOT True, The Personal Cons are Recommended, If You Want Your Area Done Really Fast, Use them. If You Dont And Noone Does ON The whole Team, you can still get a 40-50 min run easy.

Just a small tip: your random approach to capitalization makes your posts harder to read.

Risus · Apr 08, 2010, 09:08 PM // 21:08

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Originally Posted by Fear Thorin

NOT True, The Personal Cons are Recommended, If You Want Your Area Done Really Fast, Use them. If You Dont And Noone Does ON The whole Team, you can still get a 40-50 min run easy.

40-50 mins is very possible with terraway, which is much more pug friendly. I'm sure terraway can get <1 cons jacked up on candy. I'm just saying this build isn't good for PUGs because of the massive candy use for a 1 cons run and the high failure rate.

Ripy rip · Apr 08, 2010, 09:11 PM // 21:11

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Originally Posted by Risus

40-50 mins is very possible with terraway, which is much more pug friendly. I'm sure terraway can get <1 cons jacked up on candy.

please show the fastest terraway screen before saying that. Sub conset runs require so much coordination and tactics that terraway lacks.

lishi · Apr 08, 2010, 09:44 PM // 21:44

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Originally Posted by Risus

40-50 mins is very possible with terraway, which is much more pug friendly. I'm sure terraway can get <1 cons jacked up on candy. I'm just saying this build isn't good for PUGs because of the massive candy use for a 1 cons run and the high failure rate.

That is not likely, you will need clearly to remove the bonder for someone who can do UWG, fix team builds so they can clear chamber is less then 4-5 min,plus the necro have to be changed to a rit, since it allow faster dhuum killing, change chamber build so he can do escort (with help of wastes, the only one who have spare time)

Then you would need to do 4h before the terra begin to split up, do their area and then gather for pits, all without tele.

Its possible if you change the build... to with something who probably will look very similar to dlway.

impulsion · Apr 08, 2010, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Risus

40-50 mins is very possible with terraway, which is much more pug friendly. I'm sure terraway can get <1 cons jacked up on candy. I'm just saying this build isn't good for PUGs because of the massive candy use for a 1 cons run and the high failure rate.

That is a bold claim, I'm sceptical that a sub 30min run is possible with the build posted here to be honest - never mind terraway.

Also, I see a lot of people who clearly don't ever use candy in runs for whatever reasons, seem to think that it instantly will make you twice as fast. It doesn't, basically. Candy allows a 6min mnts to get 5min, for someone who takes 15mins to do mnts it's going to decrease that to like 14mins if at all. Another thing, using full candies (green+blue+red+cupcake+pie+eggs+corn+lunars+apple ) is only going to save something like 20secs over someone using just red rock.

Spiritz · Apr 08, 2010, 09:57 PM // 21:57

Can all those who always say about pugs being bad - please remember not all pugs fail and im sure theres a lot of pugs that do succeed as they have managed to find players who know what they are doing.
Its gd to have a wide variety of builds for doing uw as it means you can be more versatile in profession roles.

Risus · Apr 09, 2010, 02:42 AM // 02:42

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Originally Posted by lishi

That is not likely, you will need clearly to remove the bonder for someone who can do UWG, fix team builds so they can clear chamber is less then 4-5 min,plus the necro have to be changed to a rit, since it allow faster dhuum killing, change chamber build so he can do escort (with help of wastes, the only one who have spare time)

Then you would need to do 4h before the terra begin to split up, do their area and then gather for pits, all without tele.

Its possible if you change the build... to with something who probably will look very similar to dlway.

Duo 4H first, someone goes to pits, someone goes to wastes, drop the 2nd bonder for an SoS rit or another tank to do vale, A/Me pops reaper, pops vale, SoS and SS do wrathful, A/Me and Bonder go do UWG, wastes does escort with the SS + SoS when he's finished, tele pits, tele wastes, dhuum. I've done 45 minute runs.

lishi · Apr 09, 2010, 02:24 PM // 14:24

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Originally Posted by Risus

Duo 4H first, someone goes to pits, someone goes to wastes, drop the 2nd bonder for an SoS rit or another tank to do vale, A/Me pops reaper, pops vale, SoS and SS do wrathful, A/Me and Bonder go do UWG, wastes does escort with the SS + SoS when he's finished, tele pits, tele wastes, dhuum. I've done 45 minute runs.

Then you know how hard to shove 15 minute off a already very good run (probably you can shove 3-4 minute if you don't tele pits and leave the 3 terra to do it)

Glory bladez · Apr 10, 2010, 12:34 AM // 00:34

why 3 terras for pits? you only need 2

Atro · Apr 10, 2010, 03:13 PM // 15:13

For pools sin, is the full blessed absolutely necessary or can it be radiant?

assasinator · Apr 10, 2010, 04:07 PM // 16:07

great job guys, is r10 vanguard required to complete the run, or just to do it faster?

lishi · Apr 10, 2010, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by ElementalShadows

For pools sin, is the full blessed absolutely necessary or can it be radiant?

Probably the pools its the only one who can get away since terrorweb don't hit hard(but might make the queen killing a little harder), but you might need to cover for other area as well, just spend the 1-2k to spec the armor properly.

The proper equipment is :

max Earth staff of enchanting, the inscription and other mods are up to you.

+20% ench weapon, shield +30(or 45 ench) +10 vs air

A long bow with ench mod can be useful if you need to pull.

Blessed armor.

Atro · Apr 10, 2010, 04:28 PM // 16:28

ok thanks lishi