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Old May 26, 2010, 01:24 PM // 13:24   #21
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I need help i got access to CF only with my Necro i tried to play with Subway and few diff builds for me and heroes but i got pawned at beginning with mesmer boss , i'm play with heros + henchies as i don't have luck to groups..

I can capture all elite skills or buy normal on my Ncero as i'm finished all 4 campaigns.

Any help with build ? ( i'm play in NM )
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Old May 26, 2010, 07:37 PM // 19:37   #22
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I just pop into teams of 6 people with DwG. Get's the job done quickly and easily. That skill is pretty overpowered...
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Old May 26, 2010, 07:57 PM // 19:57   #23
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That skill is pretty overpowered...
Yes. It is quick and easy, but not overpowered. Those teams are co-ordinated with everyone knowing what their role is. That's why it steam rolls certain PvE scenarios. Nonetheless fun and easy way to rack up war supplies
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Old May 26, 2010, 07:59 PM // 19:59   #24
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Those teams are co-ordinated with everyone knowing what their role is.D
How does "pick up group" spell "coordinate"? It works like Ursan did because it doesn't require any brains.

Also lol @ 6 DwGs having "roles".
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Old May 26, 2010, 08:15 PM // 20:15   #25
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Yes. It is quick and easy, but not overpowered. Those teams are co-ordinated with everyone knowing what their role is. That's why it steam rolls certain PvE scenarios. Nonetheless fun and easy way to rack up war supplies
Sounds like someone doesn't want the skill nerfed.
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Old May 26, 2010, 11:21 PM // 23:21   #26
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Sounds like someone doesn't want the skill nerfed.
Says the scissors because rock is being too much of a meanie.
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Old May 27, 2010, 01:22 AM // 01:22   #27
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Yes. It is quick and easy, but not overpowered. Those teams are co-ordinated with everyone knowing what their role is. That's why it steam rolls certain PvE scenarios. Nonetheless fun and easy way to rack up war supplies
Well overpowered in the same way a hundred other skills are overpowered. And I'd be surprised if they nerfed DwG in the near future.
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Old May 27, 2010, 11:19 PM // 23:19   #28
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Hmm, Nebo (from beetle) is taking me 12 minutes. I tried Kryta (from lions) but after 5 minutes trying to spawn him I gave up... Using [incoming] and [fall back] (toggled off) to give almost constant 133% run speed...

EDIT: Finally got him, H/H'd it in 7 minutes...

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Old May 28, 2010, 12:40 AM // 00:40   #29
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DwG isn't overpowered. In this exact instance, you have 5 DwG's all popping off with PvE buffs simultaneously in normal mode in a low-level area against enemies that have no kd, virtually no interrupts, and basically no defense against it. It is illogical to compare one very narrow usage of an elite skill stacked 5 times in an application where there is nearly no defense against it and make an across-the-board judgment against it. It's sorta like saying Icy Veins is OP because it wtfpwns mantids in SJI.

what IS imbalanced is that this repeatable run takes 5 minutes, gives 12 war supplies + 1k, and completely eclipses the effort required and rewards from a once-per-day SB bounty. So let's just get that straight.

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Old May 28, 2010, 03:45 AM // 03:45   #30
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Oh yeah, just to let you guys know, ANet greatly nerfed the Courier Falken run in NM. He now gives you way less gold and War Supplies now. Also, He gives you more War Supplies and gold in HM (I'm not sure how much more in HM). If anyone can suggest me a h/h only build that can work in HM really well, then that would be something that I would appreciate.
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Old May 28, 2010, 04:38 AM // 04:38   #31
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DwG isn't overpowered. In this exact instance, you have 5 DwG's all popping off with PvE buffs simultaneously in normal mode in a low-level area against enemies that have no kd, virtually no interrupts, and basically no defense against it. It is illogical to compare one very narrow usage of an elite skill stacked 5 times in an application where there is nearly no defense against it and make an across-the-board judgment against it. It's sorta like saying Icy Veins is OP because it wtfpwns mantids in SJI.

what IS imbalanced is that this repeatable run takes 5 minutes, gives 12 war supplies + 1k, and completely eclipses the effort required and rewards from a once-per-day SB bounty. So let's just get that straight.
looks like both my points have been proven to be true. From what I'm hearing, DwG groups going in HM are positively getting their asses handed to them, considering how one-dimensional they are. AND, the rewards have been scaled back while bounty quests have been increased.
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Old May 28, 2010, 07:18 AM // 07:18   #32
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Oh yeah, just to let you guys know, ANet greatly nerfed the Courier Falken run in NM. He now gives you way less gold and War Supplies now. Also, He gives you more War Supplies and gold in HM (I'm not sure how much more in HM). If anyone can suggest me a h/h only build that can work in HM really well, then that would be something that I would appreciate.
I'll check wiki for latest rewards...

Yesterday, when going the daily quest, falken spawned, so I tried keeping him alive to see if HM was more than NM.

About 2/3 of the way, suicide boy (falken) killed himself within the first 3 seconds of the enemy spawn, so I ran back and got the daily...

EDIT: Wow, mega nerfage! Hardly worth the supplies in HM now, and it's a lot riskier (I guess you could bond/prot suicide boy)...

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Old May 28, 2010, 05:04 PM // 17:04   #33
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Oh yeah, just to let you guys know, ANet greatly nerfed the Courier Falken run in NM. He now gives you way less gold and War Supplies now. Also, He gives you more War Supplies and gold in HM (I'm not sure how much more in HM). If anyone can suggest me a h/h only build that can work in HM really well, then that would be something that I would appreciate.
Ugh...

I play 3 accounts at the same time (turned GW into an RTS...lol). NM I had down, but now I need to see if I can manage 3 player characters/3 Heroes, and still make it through HM.

Might be too much uber micro for me to handle. I wonder if a trapper setup will do the trick? Ala the stygian ranger farm? I'm not sure I have the ablility to get to the spawns with enough time to lay that much damage....
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Old Jun 02, 2010, 11:14 PM // 23:14   #34
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I swear to Ghad, when I see this suicide chump spawn while I'm doing the daily quests, I simply rezone/resign now. Not worth the extra handful of war supplies, given he almost doubles the spawns (and almost always suicides in HM).

Way to kill a pseudo-quest, anet!!!
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Old Jun 12, 2010, 07:54 AM // 07:54   #35
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can anyone say if this is nerffed or not...
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Old Jun 13, 2010, 02:57 PM // 14:57   #36
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3 war supplies in NM
6 war supplies in HM

Nerfed so much, nobody will do it now.
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Old Jun 13, 2010, 07:20 PM // 19:20   #37
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It wasn't really worth it before the nerf.
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Old Jun 14, 2010, 03:30 PM // 15:30   #38
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I didn't mind doing it before the nerf, just not worth it at all now.
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