Curse

Vexed · Jul 07, 2008, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Indeed it's a bummer that that quest is not available year round, but it's sweet that it'll be around for a week or so even after the event. Spent most of the event working (har har) on lucky title, now that it's over I can focus on some farming

unkleanone · Jul 16, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24

how in the world do i kill the sensali in jaya bluffs? I'm fairly good at using the 330 by now, i can kill pretty much everything listed and a few that aren't, but i just can't seem to stay alive long enough to manage the sensali. I hear they are very good for feathers wich can sell for quite a bit once stacked. I've tried just about everything I can think of. I don't have nightfall but not having that one skill shouldn't make them impossible, as it doesn't hurt not having it anywhere else.

I've tried bringing shielding hands to cover damage issues durring VwK downtimes that didn't work, even tried bringing healing breeze running off the remaining points with a +5 regen going to counter the degen and it just does not work.

Am i trying to kill the wrong groups? The only ones i see have necros in em and i just can't survive the whole group.

any help would be greatly appreciated as i'm trying to find a farm where i can make a steady amount of cash.

ReZDoGG · Jul 16, 2008, 04:51 PM // 16:51

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Originally Posted by unkleanone

how in the world do i kill the sensali in jaya bluffs? I'm fairly good at using the 330 by now, i can kill pretty much everything listed and a few that aren't, but i just can't seem to stay alive long enough to manage the sensali. I hear they are very good for feathers wich can sell for quite a bit once stacked. I've tried just about everything I can think of. I don't have nightfall but not having that one skill shouldn't make them impossible, as it doesn't hurt not having it anywhere else.

I've tried bringing shielding hands to cover damage issues durring VwK downtimes that didn't work, even tried bringing healing breeze running off the remaining points with a +5 regen going to counter the degen and it just does not work.

Am i trying to kill the wrong groups? The only ones i see have necros in em and i just can't survive the whole group.

any help would be greatly appreciated as i'm trying to find a farm where i can make a steady amount of cash.

It has been awhile since I last farmed them, I do remember they can be difficult to stay alive because of the necros. It shouldn't be that hard though, it is possible. I used original skill set from what I remember. If you have to, pull the remaining necros to another group... or take something like Pain Inverter to kill them quicker, that might of been something I took to make it easier...

Also, if you want to get crap loads of feathers, farming Naphui Quarter is by far the best place.

unkleanone · Jul 16, 2008, 07:02 PM // 19:02

Thanks for the input RezDogg. I've done Naphui I just heard good things about stacking feathers off the sensali and figured they would be easy like everything else on that island but it turned out differently...I'll try out the pain inverter idea and see how that goes. I was only attempting them from what i'd heard so i'll probably go back if you think nahpui is better for feathers. Awesome build btw used to run a basic vwk rit and have since completely replaced it with the 330.

ReZDoGG · Jul 17, 2008, 12:33 AM // 00:33

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Originally Posted by unkleanone

Thanks for the input RezDogg. I've done Naphui I just heard good things about stacking feathers off the sensali and figured they would be easy like everything else on that island but it turned out differently...I'll try out the pain inverter idea and see how that goes. I was only attempting them from what i'd heard so i'll probably go back if you think nahpui is better for feathers. Awesome build btw used to run a basic vwk rit and have since completely replaced it with the 330.

Well one thing about farming enemies like Tengu in low level areas such as in prophecies or factions, is that the low level areas drop a smaller quantity of material drops such as cloth, tanned hide, bones, and feathers (NM is same as HM when it comes to common matz). The enemies in max level areas drop higher numbers at one time. Sensali on the Factions island would probably only give you about 5-10 feathers at a time, maybe alil more... I am not sure how much exactly. But the Tengu in Nahpui Quarter will drop 15-20+ everytime... so yeah, it is alot better to farm Feathers in Nahpui Quarter, not to mention there is some decent Celestial skins to farm at the same time. In the end, Nahpui Quarter would be alot more profitable to farm than in lower level areas.

nos two · Jul 17, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

by any chance could this do Iw in the pvp challenge mish

and can this fight just about anything u throw at it (other than enchant removal)

ReZDoGG · Jul 17, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by nos two

by any chance could this do Iw in the pvp challenge mish

and can this fight just about anything u throw at it (other than enchant removal)

You mean Zaishen Challenge? I do have a video for farming IWAY warriors in Zaishen Challenge. But I never actually tried using it against other groups, especially casters. One thing about using the build in pvp, is that there is no Hard Mode... so enemies won't do enough damage to trigger spirit bond most of the time. If anything you can try using 105hp or Rt/Me Echo VwK. Using Spirit Bond against weak enemies won't be too good for the build, especially taking on casters that do wand damage. But I wouldn't recommend 330hp to be used for farming Balthazar Faction, since there is alot better and quicker ways to do so... Like using an Ele or Ranger to solo Zaishen Challenge.

unkleanone · Jul 17, 2008, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Heh i have to agree farming balthazar faction with the 330 on the IWAY Warriors is a pain its very inconsistent. Sometimes you'll do 4 runs with no problems and then all of a sudden they will just pwn your face by interrupting everything. Its better to use a more reliable build as far as balth faction goes.

Frenzied Insanity · Jul 25, 2008, 11:27 AM // 11:27

I have a problem killing Star Lights in Naphui Quarter, they use [nightmare weapon] to kill me and [wielders boon] to constantly heal themselves

any suggestions?

Mr.Kotte · Jul 25, 2008, 11:59 AM // 11:59

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Originally Posted by Frenzied Insanity

I have a problem killing Star Lights in Naphui Quarter, they use [nightmare weapon] to kill me and [wielders boon] to constantly heal themselves

any suggestions?

[Scourge Healing] ?
12chars....

Frenzied Insanity · Jul 26, 2008, 09:29 PM // 21:29

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Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

[Scourge Healing] ?
12chars....

thats still not enough firepower to kill them
I have the problem with running out of energy when I'm fighting a single Star Light

ReZDoGG · Jul 27, 2008, 03:52 AM // 03:52

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Originally Posted by Frenzied Insanity

thats still not enough firepower to kill them
I have the problem with running out of energy when I'm fighting a single Star Light

Scourge Healing and Pain Inverter is a good combo, but if there is more than 2 star lights, than you would still have trouble. Best thing to do is jus ignore the star lights, especially if you only takin on one enemy. If you have to, pull that 1 star light to another group of enemies so you can get some energy to finish him off. If there is more than 2 enemies in a group, or if you aggro more than 2, just ignore them and keep farming other groups... they will turn around eventually.

sawn · Jul 28, 2008, 10:57 AM // 10:57

hi, one question:

in uw hard mode, what is the number of ecto that ritua drop?

is there a lcoation where farm money fast?

thanks

ReZDoGG · Jul 29, 2008, 10:51 PM // 22:51

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Originally Posted by sawn

hi, one question:

in uw hard mode, what is the number of ecto that ritua drop?

is there a lcoation where farm money fast?

thanks

Well UW is mainly just for the challenge of soloin it with ritualist, it wouldn't be something that would be best to farm over and over, in my opinion anyways... There are better ways to farm ectos. You do get an ecto here and there, but it does take along time to do a full Smite run, and can be quite difficult and not 100% effecient. The Graspings are the only enemies that the build really has problems with, since there is no really dependable protection against Interruptions and Dazed. There are a few things to do against Graspings to maybe give you a higher chance of killing them, but I haven't farmed it enough to completely test things out. Mindbender, Purifying Veil are acouple skills that might help... Also, I heard moving around while casting your spells can help against interruptions, I've actually done this with other enemies, but then again haven't fully tested it out against Graspings. Runs can also take aslong as 45-60+ minutes depending on how experienced you are with the build and uw.

I couldn't really say what is the "best" place to farm, but I can tell you that if you go out and try to farm as many areas as you can with the build, you should find your own favorites areas to farm. But mainly places that drop Inscribable Weapons would be best for profit.

petrorabbit · Jul 30, 2008, 04:13 AM // 04:13

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

Well UW is mainly just for the challenge of soloin it with ritualist, it wouldn't be something that would be best to farm over and over, in my opinion anyways... There are better ways to farm ectos. You do get an ecto here and there, but it does take along time to do a full Smite run, and can be quite difficult and not 100% effecient. The Graspings are the only enemies that the build really has problems with, since there is no really dependable protection against Interruptions and Dazed. There are a few things to do against Graspings to maybe give you a higher chance of killing them, but I haven't farmed it enough to completely test things out. Mindbender, Purifying Veil are acouple skills that might help... Also, I heard moving around while casting your spells can help against interruptions, I've actually done this with other enemies, but then again haven't fully tested it out against Graspings. Runs can also take aslong as 45-60+ minutes depending on how experienced you are with the build and uw.

I couldn't really say what is the "best" place to farm, but I can tell you that if you go out and try to farm as many areas as you can with the build, you should find your own favorites areas to farm. But mainly places that drop Inscribable Weapons would be best for profit.

Actually, I had an old guild mate make tons of ecto killing aatxes and smites using the 330 build in HM. I haven't tried it myself, but from what I know, getting past the squids is similar in timing to the E/Me Sandstorm build.

ReZDoGG · Jul 30, 2008, 07:10 AM // 07:10

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Originally Posted by petrorabbit

Actually, I had an old guild mate make tons of ecto killing aatxes and smites using the 330 build in HM. I haven't tried it myself, but from what I know, getting past the squids is similar in timing to the E/Me Sandstorm build.

Yup, can get some ectos from Bladed. But something like an assassin would be faster and getting ectos over time, and actually easier to use.

Using 330hp in UW takes alot of practice and patience, it is definately one of the most difficult places to farm with the build... but it is possible. If you got the money and time, and motivation to learn, in the long run it should pay off. I have had alot of people PM me about UW, most of them have alot of problems, but a very few learned enough to farm it effeciently. As for the Graspings, thing is about 330hp is that you won't kill them in one VwK, it takes 2 to 3 max, but that 2nd round of VwK can give you some trouble since they will be tryin to daze you. E/Me kills the Grasping group in one line of skills, and yes they do wait until Graspings use all their Distracting Blows before using their skills... it works with any build that way, but if they are around long enough, you can run into some problems. [purifying veil] is probably the best subsitute for UW, it can help against Bleeding from Bladed, and of course Dazed from Graspings.

Only thing sucks, is when 2 Dying Nightmare pop up, it can be difficult to deal with, but it is possible if you keep on VwK and spam VW, and use Protective Spirit and Spirit Bond as soon as they strip ur enchants. It is best to cast Protective Spirit, let it recharge, and then scan safe areas for DN's.

sawn · Jul 30, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

the build is very strong, and i dont find yet a location wich farming moremoney in few time , before hard mode modality , there are the gorillaz , where i make 2-3 a run of 10 minuts, now there is a similar location?
thanks

another question:
when i use +15/-1 energy, i dont use one of enchantement -1 energy , allright?

ReZDoGG · Jul 30, 2008, 07:14 PM // 19:14

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Originally Posted by sawn

the build is very strong, and i dont find yet a location wich farming moremoney in few time , before hard mode modality , there are the gorillaz , where i make 2-3 a run of 10 minuts, now there is a similar location?
thanks

another question:
when i use +15/-1 energy, i dont use one of enchantement -1 energy , allright?

Not sure what you mean? Using +15/-1 Seize the Day doesn't effect the build... You can use all three of the Maintained enchantments, Retribution, Essence Bond, and Balthazar's Spirit.... If that is what you mean't. If not, mind to clear it up some? If you need the +1 energy pip to regain a bit of energy, just switch off your primary farming set until you ready.

sawn · Jul 30, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

ok perfect , thanks....

ReZDoGG · Aug 05, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

Update:Here is another video showing a few areas you can farm. Enjoy. 330hp Rt/Mo - Misc HM Farming - Part 2 (Video)

I found one different area not mentioned (The Eternal Grove) that could be good for farming Gothic weapons and Kurzick Faction at the same time (just grab blessing from Kurzick Priest). The Eternal Grove Explorable area is a good place to farm mixed mobs of Dragon Moss, Undergrowth, and Kirin, along with one Ele boss you are able to kill using Pain Inverter. Just be careful of Oni pop ups, they don't always happen, but usually if they do pop up, they are around the area of the Ele boss. Enjoy.