Curse

Skinny Corpse · Nov 15, 2007, 02:00 PM // 14:00

I just love this build.. so much fun.
And today I went to the Secret Lair of the Snowmen to give it
a go solo.. but for some reason Spirit Bond nor VWK did trigger.. so the
snowmen pretty much smashed like a fly on the windscreen..

Can anyone explain to me why? I just don't get it.

fujin · Nov 15, 2007, 02:24 PM // 14:24

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Originally Posted by Skinny Corpse

I just love this build.. so much fun.
And today I went to the Secret Lair of the Snowmen to give it
a go solo.. but for some reason Spirit Bond nor VWK did trigger.. so the
snowmen pretty much smashed like a fly on the windscreen..

Can anyone explain to me why? I just don't get it.

It's probably because they come in huge groups and they all use the skill Snowball, which deals only 50 Damage regardless of whether it is in Hard Mode or not, just under the 60 Damage requirement for Spirit Bond. Along with that, there's Hidden Rock, which dazes you, so your VwK might have got interrupted.

Skinny Corpse · Nov 15, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Ah, I see.. but the thing is I had VWK up before I got hit but still it didn't heal me..
No big deal really, as I enjoy the run just as much with heroes but I just
want to understand what and why things turn ugly.

Skinny Corpse · Nov 16, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15

I just realized that this build works fine for farming Beetles and Behemoths in Mirror of Lyss.

TheDolph · Nov 17, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23

I would guess VwK didnt work as SNowball is a spell, and those dont trigger VwK

Skinny Corpse · Nov 18, 2007, 09:12 AM // 09:12

aah, of course.. that explains a lot.. thanks, Dolph!

Turtle222 · Nov 18, 2007, 12:45 PM // 12:45

can i use Alem's remedy staff with this build? id have 360 hp but seems great for this build

Skinny Corpse · Nov 18, 2007, 02:17 PM // 14:17

I'd say you can, as VwK heals you for 37hp and with Prot. Spirit up you'll lose 36hp.. I'd say it'll work.
Only one way to find out for sure tho; try it.

Turtle222 · Nov 18, 2007, 03:03 PM // 15:03

well it works thats for sure. just wondering with regards to health degen and you only got 1 guy remaining- a spell caster lol.

Skinny Corpse · Nov 18, 2007, 05:49 PM // 17:49

That sucks, doesn't it?

I usually shut down Balthazar's Spirit and Essence Bond to
get some energy regen and then spam Vengeful Weapon and Reversal of Damage. Kinda slow but it works for me.

ReZDoGG · Nov 19, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by Turtle222

can i use Alem's remedy staff with this build? id have 360 hp but seems great for this build

Alem's will work fine. You don't get staff or weapon benefits when you hold an item... so your health will go down to 330 when you cast VwK. You will also get an extra 1-2 points of damage out of Retribution while VwK is not in use...

oh_oh_joe · Nov 20, 2007, 06:43 AM // 06:43

I was just wondering whats everyone's favorite farming spot with this build? I've only really farmed Luxon Sins/First City and the Nub Islands a few times. Just wondering where everyone else is farming, as these areas are getting kind of dry.

malko050987 · Nov 20, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

I usually do a Naga run (South of Pongmei Village, the cave), then move the the Jade Brotherhood Knights outside the Marketplace, then overin Tyria outside Sardelac at the Elementals, and if I still feel like it, Fahranur.

Rexsis Kai · Nov 20, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33

I see with this build you have to use several weapons, is this really needed? Also is there a weapon I could use so that as I farmed and got the gold for better weapons I could buy them. Like a +5en +20% Ench. Dur. weapon? Ive seen many many videos using this build to farm, and wow its amazing!

malko050987 · Nov 20, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06

Several weapons? No... you don't. The weps are irrelevent most of the time, as long as it's a caster one, since you're holding VwK most of the time.

A staff such as the hourglass Staff works great. Basically, any Insightful Staff of Enchanting is good. It will give you +15 energy and +20% longer PS/SB if you cast them before VwK.

One of the Bonus packs from GW includes an Insightful Soul Shrieker. It's a Necro staff, but it comes with a +5 energy mod, and you can mod it (or at least, it works for me). I added an enchant mod to it and works great. I used a Mindclouder (+20 energy) for a while, but had issues with the +30 health, so I dropped it.

And if you're really broke, simply ask for any staff from a guildie/friend. Even non-max ones have +10 energy, and it will be enough for for a few runs, until you have enough cash to get a better one.

oh_oh_joe · Nov 20, 2007, 04:08 PM // 16:08

I used to use Alem's Remedy when I first started, but now I use the Restoration Effigy from the end of Factions + Collossal Scimitar(which I farmed using this build

) which has 10% Skill recharge and Enchanting.

ZeRG! · Nov 21, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

hey, is 5 armor too low?

Zahr Dalsk · Nov 21, 2007, 12:41 AM // 00:41

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Originally Posted by ZeRG!

hey, is 5 armor too low?

Better, actually, as you will take more damage, for easier trigger of Spirit Bond.

(Although may want to use headgear of restoration for that extra restoration point instead of starter headgear.)

T1Cybernetic · Nov 21, 2007, 07:17 AM // 07:17

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Originally Posted by ZeRG!

hey, is 5 armor too low?

No +5AL is perfect!

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Better, actually, as you will take more damage, for easier trigger of Spirit Bond.

(Although may want to use headgear of restoration for that extra restoration point instead of starter headgear.)

Im using that exact setup, i bought my headgear from shing jea monestery just so i could have +1 restoration and the rest is my starter armor +5AL and yep it works perfect.

ReZDoGG · Nov 21, 2007, 08:17 AM // 08:17

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Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

No +5AL is perfect!

Im using that exact setup, i bought my headgear from shing jea monestery just so i could have +1 restoration and the rest is my starter armor +5AL and yep it works perfect.

5AL is still good, but not much difference if you farm in HM. Maybe only a difference in NM... as you would take more damage to trigger SB. If I had 5AL, I would still get 15AL since it looks better, mainly because it won't matter in HM. But it would be better before HM arrived.