Curse

A Simple Farmer · Sep 30, 2008, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Hey Rothan,
Nice build, I've been working on something similar as well, trying to get it to 3man...

How do you keep the smite from Dying? Penetrating attack goes back to the smiter.

snodaard · Sep 30, 2008, 05:24 AM // 05:24

hello, I tried Shards of orr like 5 times now, but every time i need to kill fendi nin it doesn't work.
My SB goes off very fast but QZ is always on, I also deal nearly 0 dmg.
How do i kill him?

Picuso · Sep 30, 2008, 04:03 PM // 16:03

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Originally Posted by snodaard

hello, I tried Shards of orr like 5 times now, but every time i need to kill fendi nin it doesn't work.
My SB goes off very fast but QZ is always on, I also deal nearly 0 dmg.
How do i kill him?

Lure him to one of the "flamethrower" traps, and tank him there. You will survive (you can recieve damage from trap too, you will get more energy), and he will die.

It's a long battle, but I did it

Nightow · Sep 30, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by Picuso

Lure him to one of the "flamethrower" traps, and tank him there. You will survive (you can recieve damage from trap too, you will get more energy), and he will die.

It's a long battle, but I did it

I recall trying that twice. Each time I tried it, I'd lure him to said traps, he'd die, change back into his fleshy form and his arches would raep my energy pool with [Debilitating Shot] times like 7. Tried using a low energy set but even that didn't help.

Picuso · Sep 30, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

You need to activate SoA before archers spawn.

Stormchaser + Great Conflagration will give you the energy. Archers will drain you with their first/second shot, but their next shot will give you 100% energy.

I did that way, and It was very easy, as soon as you know when to activate SoA

Nightow · Sep 30, 2008, 06:34 PM // 18:34

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Originally Posted by Picuso

You need to activate SoA before archers spawn.

Stormchaser + Great Conflagration will give you the energy. Archers will drain you with their first/second shot, but their next shot will give you 100% energy.

I did that way, and It was very easy, as soon as you know when to activate SoA

Oh, you're talking about Mo/R tanker I guess. Sorry, I should have stated that I don't use Mo/600 (Never even made a monk) but rather Rt/Mo600.

The ranger bar I was told to take was [build=OgMU8ULfNsNIntD1B6MduO1krP] or [Serpent's Quickness][Quickening Zephyr][Symbiosis][Edge of Extinction][Fertile Season][Frozen Soil][Holy Veil][Purifying Veil].

I recall having energy issues with QZ so I didn't even bother using that when fighting Fendi. Maybe I should have, who knows?

Picuso · Sep 30, 2008, 06:39 PM // 18:39

Oh... I did it with Mo/R 600... I thought you were using it too xD

I don't know how to do it with Rt, sry Q_Q

snodaard · Sep 30, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

I know this all, but why does SB go down so fast? I can't even keep it up, this issue is just at fendi, in the rest of the dungeon I can just keep it up for ages and ages

Aangy · Sep 30, 2008, 08:44 PM // 20:44

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Originally Posted by snodaard

I know this all, but why does SB go down so fast? I can't even keep it up, this issue is just at fendi, in the rest of the dungeon I can just keep it up for ages and ages

It's a matter of timing mostly. When Fendi turns into his fleshy self, you gotta get up SB then storm chaser. Do that and your energy bar will be full by the time the archers are done with their first shot.

Rothan Celt · Oct 01, 2008, 09:39 AM // 09:39

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Originally Posted by A Simple Farmer

Hey Rothan,
Nice build, I've been working on something similar as well, trying to get it to 3man...

How do you keep the smite from Dying? Penetrating attack goes back to the smiter.

I dnt belive my smite ever recived dmg :s pehaps its the route that i took.

just to clarify what foe uses penetrating attack?

snodaard · Oct 01, 2008, 02:04 PM // 14:04

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Originally Posted by Aangy

It's a matter of timing mostly. When Fendi turns into his fleshy self, you gotta get up SB then storm chaser. Do that and your energy bar will be full by the time the archers are done with their first shot.

I meant spell breaker, Spirit bond isn't the problem

kess · Oct 01, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

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Originally Posted by snodaard

I meant spell breaker, Spirit bond isn't the problem

make sure you are in QZ range, with QZ, blessed aura (DF at 15 or 16), and 20% enchant (make sure you dropped the torch), you should be able to keep SB up indefinitely.

With few practices, you will be fine.

CE Devilman · Oct 02, 2008, 11:18 PM // 23:18

let it snow..and bring a M8

tip: 2th Beacon of Droknar.. tank and send in the heros to clean up
M8 can micro more healing in this spot...rest is pie

ramma77 · Oct 03, 2008, 12:49 PM // 12:49

When running Ooze pit what is the best way to deal with the bosses? I try to run away when they use their skill but they deep freeze me, smack my bitch up and then get back to full health straight away.

Should i arcane echo SB? Should i take burning speed? Should i take a chill pill? I tried using PI but it still wasn't good enough

Tom Swift · Oct 03, 2008, 02:41 PM // 14:41

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Originally Posted by ramma77

When running Ooze pit what is the best way to deal with the bosses? I try to run away when they use their skill but they deep freeze me, smack my bitch up and then get back to full health straight away.

Should i arcane echo SB? Should i take burning speed? Should i take a chill pill? I tried using PI but it still wasn't good enough

First, yes arcane echo Spell Breaker

then, there are several methods for dealing with the bosses

1: diversion - it's very slow and takes careful timing because of its long cast time but works well

2: You move like a dwarf to knock down and cripple one of the bosses when they cast GA then keep away from that boss until GA has run out

3: degeneration skills (I've seen this done but haven't used it myself). I don't recall which skill the runner used but all 3 bosses died at once leaving about 40 small oozes so i never felt like trying it.

Rothan Celt · Oct 06, 2008, 02:02 PM // 14:02

Anyone have any Theories on defeating stormclouds? i mean dungeons such as bloodstone could be run in like 20 mins if those bloody stormies where not in the way... any suggestions?

and before anyone suggests it the ppl who i am running can not kill these things just by looking at the mobs tells me that a pug group which is not capable of conscious thought would be owned. Furthermore i do not like involving the ppl who i am running in the killing etc. I mean for crips sake getting ppl to suicide without barraging me with questions in the ooze pit is hard enough :/ any idiot could see that killing the bosses all at once and picking off the large mob would be faster than killing one at a time

Xsiriss · Oct 06, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

I have a question about the Kathrandax one,I met some people who do it and they said they don't need/use a ranger?

Rothan Celt · Oct 06, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55

You dnt have to use it Xsiriss but its very likely your gonna die on areas such as the start of the 3rd lvl.

Xsiriss · Oct 06, 2008, 07:20 PM // 19:20

mmm k thanks. A noob question but why does the ranger need so many heals/what is he meant to do?

A Simple Farmer · Oct 08, 2008, 07:27 AM // 07:27

WTS q9 wingcrest maul, jk this badboy is going to Koss

Raven's Point
So it took a lot of trial and error to figure out the Stormclouds. For this dungeon, I took a Dwayna farmer. This technique may apply to the other dungeons, but I probably won't get around to checking them for a while, so hopefully someone else can confirm this.

Technique
For stormclouds (up to 2 at a time); flag smite way-way-way back. Flag Rt just outside agro of smite for BiP (closer to Stormclouds). Stand beside Rt cast up PS then Archane echo, smite will BiP you. Meanwhile cast spirits from left to right. Wait for energy to regen as Rt casts. Move real close, cast SB, then SpB agro (double cover if the two are close together), then run way-way back, to within agro range of spirits. You will be dazed, ignore it. Rt should clear it. As soon as it gets within spirit range, don't move, just cast PS, soa and SpB. As long as you have Spell breaker up they will just try casting spells until they run out of energy at which point they will attack (so even if you are dazed, they aren't attacking so you have time to cast up). So concentrate on PS and covering it with SpB, and SOA if you can. (also target and cast the Rt hex on them)

In level 2 there is a group of Dredge here. You can see them, they are the next two closest groups. Don't agro they will kill you.

Drain enchantment is for mist Vaettir, cast it after they cast illusionary weapon. They both have the same recharge. The group above, was a lot of Mist, which I had a problem with. So I brought in the Rt after agro lock, spirit up, hex, pickup drops. Also good technique for the Destroyers.

Just after the above pic you have to kill a Dredge hunter. Use the walls to hide from arrows/Dazed condition while you dispatch the Warrior, then Spirit him. Also use same technique on the Destroyer of Deeds.

Builds.
Tank
13(16) devine, 14 prot, 8 insp
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[Spirit Bond][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Arcane Echo][Spell Breaker][Drain Enchantment][Blessed Aura][Essence Bond]
If you are getting interupted a lot, & don't have a sense of timing, you could probably sub Drain enchantement for Mantra of resolve, and rely on the Rt to clear straglers.

Smite
3 blood, 16 smite, 14 prot, 2 devine
[Blood is Power][signet of Rejuvenation][Signet of Devotion][Blessed Signet][Retribution][Holy Wrath][Balthazar's Spirit][Vital Blessing]

Dwayna Farmer
15 Communing, 13 Channeling, 7 spawning
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[Pain][Bloodsong][Wanderlust][Earthbind][Anguish][Disenchantment][Painful Bond][Extinguish]
Feel free to drop Disenchantment. A big mana pool is essential esp, keep a bit of energy for Extinguish when dealing with dazed.

I had to use a couple clovers, as there were quite a few surprises in this dungeon, & a lot of pops. I bet you could run it clean with a little practice. I'm sure it's run-able for $$$, but you'll want to do a couple dry runs first.

A two man, Monk and Rt with Smite hero would be very effective. Teamspeak a must.