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Old Oct 25, 2010, 09:48 PM // 21:48   #21
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Run a single party into UW with multiple accounts on Every Bit Helps. Kill skellies, mobstopper, Alt+Tab to next account in party. Repeat until bored.
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Old Oct 26, 2010, 08:59 AM // 08:59   #22
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This has been discussed so many times. I'll sum up the facts I know;
I'm NEVER, EVER longer then 2 minutes in Riven Earth for a single raptor run (from zoning in to typing /resign).
A raptor run is 34 kills.
On a vaettir run, using the fastest build possible, I've NEVER, EVER been able to get the /age function to show 4 minutes standing in front of the portal to norrhart domains, nor is it effective to pull all at once since this simply costs more time then making 2 seperate pulls. The northern half pull is 24 enemies and the southern 36, so you kill far less at once then a raptor farm on the first pull and slightly more on the second pull.

Also, you don't get elite tomes on vaettir farms (the glacial stones don't even come near making up for this). And, but that's just my experience, I've done a crapload of vaettir runs and a crapload of raptor runs, I always have multiple black and white dyes after about 2/3 hours of raptor farming and I've never had more then 3 total black/whites after 2/3 hours vaettir farming.

Vaettirs = simply less kills / minute, and as such less ToTs (or whatever event item) / hour. Raptors are simply more effective.
just to clarify something - vaetires can be done with /age of 3 mins on an e/me and possibly a/mo ( dont use myself so can someone verify ) , a/me and me/a used to be around 3 1/2 mins untill the nerf on ether nightmare recharge which added in total almost 30 secs making runs now around 4 min mark.
longer than 2 mins ? most farmers i seen would state if your there for 2 mins then your seriously slow - 2 runs = 4 mins max which means an ele doing 60 vaetires in 2 mins works out to match the kills almost ( well 3 min runs beats 4 mins hands down even if its just 6 foes in total difference )
Elite sin tomes aint worth a huge amount and stop saying about dyes - its luck otherwise every raptor farmer would be selling black dye and its price would plummit.
Vaetires are the alternative to raptors which on an ele is easier to reach than raptors not requires any title rank for skills.So please refrain from the raptor part - even if we know its the only decent solo farm a warrior can do and tbh they have to have a hero holding their hands to do it
(I wont go on about how many solo farms other professions have )
If anet ever nerfs raptors then everyone cept raptor farmers will be loling just like the ppl who lol when sf was nerfed then cried in disbelief as it didnt kill sins usefulness or sf :P ( Sorry had to be said as a lot of sins had abuse from stupid players who think their warriors are the best in gw).
Ok i feel much better after that lil rant
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Old Oct 28, 2010, 02:13 PM // 14:13   #23
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This has been discussed so many times. I'll sum up the facts I know;
Facts? LOL
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I'm NEVER, EVER longer then 2 minutes in Riven Earth for a single raptor run (from zoning in to typing /resign).
A raptor run is 34 kills.
2 minutes? That's too slow. Even my ele (before the sliver armor nerf) never took more than 1 min 30sec from the start of one run to the start of the next. 1min 25sec was average. W/N's do it even faster.

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On a vaettir run, using the fastest build possible, I've NEVER, EVER been able to get the /age function to show 4 minutes standing in front of the portal to norrhart domains, nor is it effective to pull all at once since this simply costs more time then making 2 seperate pulls.
To finish a Vaettir run with 1 minute showing on your /age:

1. Use hero for running speed, like W/N Raptor farmers. Paragon with Vocal was Sogolon, Enduring harmony and Make haste = 45 secs of +33% movement speed.

2. Only do the Northern groups (36 vaettirs)

3. Use a doorman (second account in my case) to rezone after picking up drops.

I consistently get 36 kills in 1min 30secs, and that INCLUDES time spent rezoning and picking up drops between each run. That compares pretty well with your 2 minute runs to kill 34 raptors.

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Also, you don't get elite tomes on vaettir farms (the glacial stones don't even come near making up for this).
LOL @ elite assassin tomes. You can hardly even GIVE them away.

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Vaettirs = simply less kills / minute, and as such less ToTs (or whatever event item) / hour. Raptors are simply more effective.
You need to be doing your Raptor runs much faster than 2 mins for that to be true.

All academic anyway, because "Every Bit Helps" halloween quest wins over both Raptors and Vaettirs: I'm getting 320 ToT bags/hour minimum from doing that.

Use multiple accounts like MisterB, and you multiply that figure by however many accounts you're able to use at once.

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Old Oct 29, 2010, 04:14 AM // 04:14   #24
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While I would still recommend "every bit helps" for ToT farming, I'm convinced that every placed spawn of 3 dhumm skelly parties has been reduced to 2 with today's build.
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Old Nov 01, 2010, 12:16 PM // 12:16   #25
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im a bit late but raptors and vaettir farm lol this tread is about skele farming.
people have been farming all week now some of them managed to get 250 mobstopers a day if not 1 stack per 1.5 days.
that would net you 8 stacks tot for 1 stack of mobstoppers.
i personally farmed 3 stacks mobstoppers wich gave me 26 stacks total.
that is why the prices are so low at the moment.

so nvm this veattir and raptor farm crap lol unless you want to do it for the gold .
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