Curse

Dr Ripley · Sep 01, 2006, 11:54 PM // 23:54

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Originally Posted by Stee Janz

Also I do not have knowledge of this or if it has anything to do with the drops. Is doesn't make any since either but I get a better drop rate if I kill him where he stands instead of pulling him. Sometimes you have to pull him but I prefer to kill him where he stands. I have never got the drop pulling him farther than half way down the long bridge.

I don't think it matters where he stands. My drop success is pretty much exactly opposite of yours Stee. I always pull him onto and PAST the bridge before engaging (sometimes even to the ramp). I find it faster to pull him instead of killing everything around him first. I do however pull the rits out of there to make things easier. But after that, only one mesmer or an ele usually follow him out of his spawn and onto/past the bridge...

Wicked Shadow · Sep 03, 2006, 05:37 AM // 05:37

Thank you very much for this build. Just got a staff on my 3rd (successful) run.
As far as pulling out vs where he stands, I typically pull out and kill the mesmers and mages first. Then I go for ghial himself and pull him out of range of the ritualists.

Brutal · Sep 09, 2006, 08:27 AM // 08:27

Great build which works well. All I changed is substituting Doylak Signet for Essence Bond? (30 sec get +15 health per hit). Have this on when using Tiger Stance and you are ok until Healing Hands recharges. Works for me anyway.

I find that, once you are onto Ghial and screw it up and he raises a Golem then I just over the rooftop on the way to the market area. The Golem will follow you all the way to there but Ghial will stop at the opposite end of the bridge where he starts from (the opposite end to the square he is in to start with). Kill the Golem by which time Ghial has made his way back across the bridge. No need to worry though that you might have to clear out the square (if you left any Rits etc in there) because as soon as you make your way back to the bridge he will come back towards you. You should meet him halfway across the bridge in the perfect location as to not aggro anything else. Once he is there he is an easy kill.

I think I've done this run about 10 times (successfully) now and only had the staff drop on the first successful attempt. It's a bit annoying especially as the staff now only sells for 30k but I still enjoy doing it when bored of the Hydras, Trolls and Vermin etc.

Thanks again for the build.

mdog21 · Sep 24, 2006, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Stee Janz, I just saw your build, and tried it out. Works great. I have a question though. I have done this about ten times, and haven't gotten a staff yet. Is this supposed to be this way? Am I going to get it soon?

Stee Janz · Sep 24, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24

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Originally Posted by mdog21

Stee Janz, I just saw your build, and tried it out. Works great. I have a question though. I have done this about ten times, and haven't gotten a staff yet. Is this supposed to be this way? Am I going to get it soon?

Sometimes you get 1 in 30 runs and sometimes you get 3 in ten. There is no way to know. But just keep trying, one will drop soon.

mdog21 · Sep 24, 2006, 02:28 AM // 02:28

Ok, thanks. Also, is it ok if I get your online character name and I add you to friends?

mdog21 · Sep 24, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50

I got it....... WOOT!

Gururian · Sep 25, 2006, 04:24 AM // 04:24

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Originally Posted by Brutal

Great build which works well. All I changed is substituting Doylak Signet for Essence Bond? (30 sec get +15 health per hit). Have this on when using Tiger Stance and you are ok until Healing Hands recharges. Works for me anyway.

What are you on? Essence bond gives energy fyi..
You mean vigorous spirit....

dameros · Sep 29, 2006, 06:35 AM // 06:35

Hey guys,

This is just an idea that i thought of and havent tried this so dont flame if its stupid. For a W/N build, to counter Ghial's golem u could bring Veratas Aura to take control of his golem or bring Soul Feast to cancel the corpse and get heal aswell.

guss_au · Nov 02, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21

nice build dude....works well for me...only time ive died is silly mistakes..like forgetting to cast mending when leaving senjis

...I've soloed him bout 6 times now...how many times do you reckon i might gotta kill him b4 he drops his staff...any idea?..whats a ball park average?....any reply would be appreciated...

The Prince · Nov 02, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

ive seen a W/N build using grenths, but i didnt have much luck w/it, if anyone has a good W/N build plz post it thnx

Daenarys Storm · Nov 03, 2006, 01:29 PM // 13:29

I had to kill him about 20 times before he dropped the staff.

Hidden Animal · Mar 06, 2007, 04:34 AM // 04:34

I dont know if you guys realized this, but with the release of Nightfall, and the ability 'Flail' this build can become much more effective. Swap out Tiger Stance for Flail. Flail costs adrenaline, not energy, and you can keep it up endlessly as long as you have the adequit adrenaline, i know that when i farm this i have a much easier time taking him down even while working through his faintheartedness beceause i can keep my attack speed up indeffinitly.

Levi Garett · Mar 06, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

This post is obviously dated. Did you check the dates?

If you really want to kill him efficiently try 55hp Mo/E Sliver Armor. Ghial dies in like 10 seconds for me with this combo. I use the Burdek Byway zone/rez portal for quick trips back and forth. I just die after I kill Ghial. You can still do it with 60dp. Actually it's even easier with 22hp. Also I use Glyph of concentration, SoA, and Shielding hands. Mending with +3 regen is nice to counter Ghials degen hex. It's so easy it almost feels like cheating. A E/Mo would probably be even faster but I'm not 100% you could get the attribs to work out?

Happy farming!

Enko · Mar 06, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

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Originally Posted by LeviGarrett

This post is obviously dated. Did you check the dates?

If you really want to kill him efficiently try 55hp Mo/E Sliver Armor. Ghial dies in like 10 seconds for me with this combo. I use the Burdek Byway zone/rez portal for quick trips back and forth. I just die after I kill Ghial. You can still do it with 60dp. Actually it's even easier with 22hp. Also I use Glyph of concentration, SoA, and Shielding hands. Mending with +3 regen is nice to counter Ghials degen hex. It's so easy it almost feels like cheating. A E/Mo would probably be even faster but I'm not 100% you could get the attribs to work out?

Happy farming!

With a E/Mo build, I was getting about 2 min runs. This includes running to Ghial, killing him, getting drops, dying, and rezoning. Probably can do it even faster now with NF skills since last time I actually farmed Ghial was when his staff was actually worth something.

removed · Aug 06, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27

I know I'm bumping and old thread. Just want to know if this run has been changed in any way, or is it still the same as it was 2 years ago?

EDIT: something may have been changed now. I don't know, maybe it's jsut because I suck, but I cannot kill the first group that the OP tells you to engage (rit, 2 wars, mes and mage). I use VS but it doesn't heal me fast enough. I get owned before I can kill the rit. What's wrong???

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 06, 2008, 06:55 AM // 06:55

Afaik the skills are the same as they were, and Anet has no reason to change the run.

PS: Farming greens is generally a waste of time.

removed · Aug 06, 2008, 07:36 AM // 07:36

Well then can you suggest a better necro death staff?

**Marty Silverblade** · Aug 06, 2008, 07:59 AM // 07:59

Farm for money, not items. You'll get several times the amount that Ghial's Staff is worth farming raptors or something.

mtm · Aug 06, 2008, 08:31 AM // 08:31

The easiest way to get most greens (very few exceptions) is buying them.
Sometimes some of us get "stuck" (I recently spent a couple of days trying to get Kepkhet's Refuge to drop - yes I know I could have farmed 30 min, get 5k and buy it).
If that's your purpose then the build should work - i'll give it a try when i get home tonight. Are you sure you're using Healing Hands? Vigorous Spirit is there to cover the "gap" Healing Hands leave. You might wanna make a vampiric sword of enchanting to extend HH duration but I had used this build back in the day and didn't have any problems with it.

If you want good gear for your MM however my advice is to go with 20/20 wand and 20/+1 offhand, even if you craft/mod them (I have for example made a pair of Asuran wand/offhand for my necro's MM setup) it'll probably come cheaper than buying Ghial's.
If you wanna go with green gear:

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Waywa...d_%28unique%29

or

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Drokn..._Death_Scepter

and

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armind%27s_Focus

or the identical

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Bortak%27s_Bone_Cesta

I'll post if I'm able to still kill Ghial with the original build, however bare in mind that you can always farm a couple of hours something like raptors for example or any other boring well known farm

, get 15-20k and go buy the Staff.

Good luck