Curse

tenke · Dec 29, 2010, 09:17 PM // 21:17

I need help from more experienced farmers about best farming way in my case(returned to game after 4y).
I have 2 accounts and can use both at same time (virtual box). I am missing only Paragon and Dervish as 20lev chars, but they can be 20lev soon fast if needed. I own all expansions on 1 account and prophecies on second.

ATM I can go Hard modes with...
Prophecies - 2x Mo, 2xRa, Me, Ne, El, As, War
EyE - Mo, As, War
Factions - Mo, As, Rit, War
Nightfall - Mo, Me

Standart skills arent problem.
I have "PvE only" farm skills on Mo,As,War.

I need advice about how to use best my resources for farm with antiloot code prevention (and boredom prevention

).

P.S. I dont want to use heroes or other players.

Prince Rogrs Nelson · Dec 29, 2010, 09:29 PM // 21:29

Others might have better ideas.

But dual-spirit-spamming is easy, quick, and virtually fool-proof. Plus, the kill rate is spaced out (cf. insta-spiking like raptor farming), which supposedly avoids one of the effects of the anti-farming code.

thunder boy · Dec 29, 2010, 11:04 PM // 23:04

what i have been doing during this wintersday is the quest snowman dominance and receiving frosty tonics and wintersday gifts and i believe 500g per round. do that for a few hrs a day and end up with a few stacks that sell around 20k-30k per stack atm.

Captain Bulldozer · Dec 30, 2010, 05:59 AM // 05:59

If one of the two account has only prophecies, that seriously limits your dual farming options. Probably your most profitable choice would be to dual farm the UW (or perhaps FoW) using a SoS rit and an SS Necro. If you get more campaigns on your second account, more options will be opened to you. Good hunting.

Sethellington · Dec 30, 2010, 10:00 AM // 10:00

Prophecies doesn't really offer anywhere to farm other than UW/FoW. Your best bet probably would have been Snowball Dominance, but you have to enter that from EotN. No chance of upgrading the acc to EotN? It's like £5 or something

Spiritz · Dec 30, 2010, 11:40 AM // 11:40

I cant really see the point of duel farming - tbh solo you get more drops and each added player means less for first.So if i was in your situation id see about getting a friend to join you on farms - its more fun.
Aside from a few xmas quests which gives rewards equally i cant even think of any real farms but thats just me.

Dueling ive not tried myself but id be a lot more worried about having to watch both chrs - heros can be pinned etc and even think for themselves but on a duel and things go pear shaped can you switch fast enough to avoid a wipe.
Other players may have better advice than what i can give

tenke · Dec 30, 2010, 04:00 PM // 16:00

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

I cant really see the point of duel farming - tbh solo you get more drops and each added player means less for first.

This isnt my case. I can dual farm with virtual box, so all drops are for me.

Only problem with this is that there is problem in VMware virtual box with erratic mouse behaviour during GW play and nonworking Unity mode so it is much better to use maintained enchantments on boxed GW chars or spirits.

Spiritz · Dec 30, 2010, 07:12 PM // 19:12

what i mean is http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling .
question tho - i assume your on a pc running windows and vmware - is vmware just for dueling gw because there is a program that will allow 2 copies of gw to be ran without needing vmware.If someone can post the link to the forum posts id be gratefull - one program is gwmultilaunch ( easy to use ) and you dont get any "emulation" problems like your mouse behaviour

Prince Rogrs Nelson · Dec 30, 2010, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiritz

what i mean is http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling .

You realize, that article undermines the point you seemed to be making?

The whole point of loot scaling is that a solo farmer will NOT get twice the drops that s/he would get farming with a partner. The solo farmer will get LESS THAN twice the drops, though still more, overall, than s/he would individually (while farming with a partner).

By that reasoning, dual-account farming should greatly increase rewards, assuming you're using the two accounts to farm for the benefit of just one. Each of your accounts will get more than half of what you'd have gotten solo, and your total take will be greater.

Fay Vert · Dec 30, 2010, 09:15 PM // 21:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prince Rogrs Nelson

You realize, that article undermines the point you seemed to be making?

The whole point of loot scaling is that a solo farmer will NOT get twice the drops that s/he would get farming with a partner. The solo farmer will get LESS THAN twice the drops, though still more, overall, than s/he would individually (while farming with a partner).

By that reasoning, dual-account farming should greatly increase rewards, assuming you're using the two accounts to farm for the benefit of just one. Each of your accounts will get more than half of what you'd have gotten solo, and your total take will be greater.

Only if you are farming the trash drops. Most farms are after loot-scaling exempt items.

Prince Rogrs Nelson · Dec 30, 2010, 09:51 PM // 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fay Vert

Only if you are farming the trash drops. Most farms are after loot-scaling exempt items.

Plenty of such things are not "trash drops." Bought any feathers or granite lately?

Besides, though, his point is STILL not at all supported by the article. If you dual-farm on 2 accounts, you will get roughly the same, and possibly greater, total loot as if you farmed alone. The only difference is that it will be spread between the two characters.

Fay Vert · Dec 30, 2010, 11:57 PM // 23:57

presumabley it is faster or allows you do do a lot of farms that solo can't do.

Captain Bulldozer · Dec 31, 2010, 06:24 AM // 06:24

One big advantage to dual farming in UW is that you can take Rez skills for those lag/rubber band moments. If you set thins up right, you can also kill things faster, assuming you can multi-task reasonably well. After doing this myself many times in UW, I can say that I seem to generally get MORE ecto drops with two chars than with just one. I have no real data to back that up at the moment, however.

tenke · Dec 31, 2010, 10:39 AM // 10:39

So, i upgraded my second account with all expansion for farm reasons and i can afford to select 2 chars and spend time to finish some campaigns with them.

Any advice about whats best to focus(duo class composition and places)? I prefer money gain over items for sale becouse i hate yelling in trade channels.

Fay Vert · Jan 01, 2011, 05:08 PM // 17:08

I think you need to check the forum rules.

Huiboo · Jan 06, 2011, 10:40 PM // 22:40

I think the best way is to do some quest with the first account and let the 2. account leech to double the reward gained.
Glints challenge is a good example:
Just do it with H&H and let the 2. account stand near the baby dragon (maybe use some bonds etc.) - even with a 7/8 party its doable in 20mins and the clothes sell for 10k, so 20k + drops in 20mins if done with 2 accounts.
Also Skele farming on halloween and snowball domination on wintersday is very effektive with 2 accounts.

Basically anythink thats not depending on drops but rather on a reward u get for finisching it (endchests or quest rewards) and ccan be done with one leecher is good, because doing something with 7/8 instead of a full team just makes it slightly slower but doubles the profit.

You could also just use the heros of the 2. account to for example run someone to the obsi armor in fow or something.

furin · Jan 11, 2011, 12:36 PM // 12:36

When I started out with dual accounts I did FoW. I'm comfortable giving this away since I'm completly done with that farm. I made a build that can finish the whole thing with all the quests and let's you open the chest on both characters (be it in normal mode, I never bothered with HM). You'll need a dervish with:

All windwalkers armor.
Scythe with 20% enchants mod.
I think I ran 16 scythe 13 mysticism

victorious sweep
mystic sweep
mystic vigor
vow of silence
finish him
you move like a dwarf
i am unstoppable
(optional, I usually used adrenaline based skills here from a second prof so I could spam them)

Then I had my box run a bonder as you were saying that was easiest with my setup at the time, the bonders bar and gear aren't very strict but the basics are:

life barrier
life bond
balthazar's spirit
strength and honor
rebirth
judge's insight
blessed signet
optional

For gear I actually used multiple superiors for better bonds, since the monk is never in combat anyways. You want high protection prayers and medium to high smiting prayers, rest in divine favor. (16 15 6?)

I could actually run a lot of places with this or similar builds (UW isn't possible any more with skeletals of dhuum) so you can look around, but for FoW I have a few tips:

Keep up vow of silence, only quickly cast mystic vigor in between once in a while to keep that up too.

Shadow monks are best killed doing the following:
get them down to 80% hp just before they heal up
use victorious sweep and you move like a dwarf simultaniously
then quickly use mystic sweep and finish him simultaniously

Abbysals require the use of "i am unstoppable".

Make your monk cast judge's insight right before battle when fighting the undead skeletals.

When fighting the rend enchantments mobs in the burning forest don't bother with mystic vigor and only recast vow of silence or they will strip and kill you. Just heal up between battles.

When doing the first forgemaster quest, have your monk stand witht he forgemaster, and either wait for the mobs to come up to you if you're not confident about your damage. Or if you are, run down one side and clear it as fast as possible so you can take outt he other side before they start going up to the npc.

I suggest when fighting bone dragons to take out their adds first and dragon last due to their daze ability.

When doing the Griphons quest don't trigger them clear the path first, then come back and guide the griphons through empty space.

Hope it works out for you man. Boxing = win.

Daesu · Jan 11, 2011, 05:25 PM // 17:25

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Originally Posted by Prince Rogrs Nelson

By that reasoning, dual-account farming should greatly increase rewards, assuming you're using the two accounts to farm for the benefit of just one. Each of your accounts will get more than half of what you'd have gotten solo, and your total take will be greater.

That would be how I interpret this thread.

I cleared FoW with dual account. One problem with dual account is that you can only effectively play 1 character, so you either a) Make the other character leave and go with 6 heroes (I dont like that) or b) Bring non-targeted skills on the other character so you can simply spam 1-2-3 on the second keyboard while controlling your primary character.

I prefer b). So you have more inventory space, more pve skills, and the ability to split. Make the secondary character a spirit spammer and you wont have to target. Primary character can be anything, but I think an assassin tank would work best in UW.