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Spiritz · May 01, 2011, 03:57 PM // 15:57

Ok thats a damn gd question.
And its one i cant answer - id guess there isnt many actual farms that are this way ( mass foes in 1 go ) that have golds over 10k.
I think you`ll find places with golds like that are probably team places rather than solo places.The only farm i can think of and its the luxon sin farm - ive managed 1 sup vigor so far but there are meant to be a few gd skin golds that drop ( best to check the actual posts for better info ).

Riot Narita · May 01, 2011, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Vaettirs can drop req7/15 or req8/16 Tactics shields, which can go for up to 100K (mind, they're usually blue not gold)
Req7/15 Command shields are not worth so much, but still at least 10K?
You can get 20% Forget-me-not inscriptions which are about 20K...

These are pretty rare drops though, I've only had a handful of any of those, after thousands of runs.

By the way, I usually have my inventory full of gold items after about an hour or a little over, that's with an E/Me but the profession is kind of irrelevant - you just need to be doing really fast runs (especially, you need a doorman for fast rezoning. I use a second account for that).

Hint: 60 kills in 3 mins or more (from start of one run, to start of next)... is not fast enough for items-only farming.

Basically Vaettirs are best for Norn Rep... and farming event items, or UNID golds (for your own title, or sell for 5K per 7). And you're not going to get super-rich from those fast.

Our Virus · May 01, 2011, 08:07 PM // 20:07

Because of vat farming I am now a firm believer that the longer it takes to fight things, the more/better drops you get. I used to farm this on my sin with the A/Me wastrels build and I would maybe get 2 unids every 5 runs because I just blow everything up at once in like 10 seconds. Now I farm this on my Paragon bc it's my main and I need norn, and the degen from fire takes longer to kill everything and on average I get atleast 3 unids per zone. So maybe if all you have to farm with is a sin, I would say use A/Mo b it slower and safer.

Spiritz · May 02, 2011, 09:09 AM // 09:09

Several things to be remembered and condsidered when doing Anything with mass killing.
If you kill things slowly you will always get more drops than killing say 60 foes at once - aoe gives less drops.
Staying in same zone repeatedly farming will start to lessen drops and give more junk.
Luck plays an important part.

Before anyone jumps in and says about the above - they are general consencus and have been posted many times on guru.
And we know nothing is 100% - you runs with zero golds for a while and other runs with say 5 golds.

Virus - your looking at it how many farmers would call "the wrong way"
if you take 10 mins to clear all 60 thats say 6 runs an hr with say 4 golds a run - 40 golds an hr.Now mr x who uses ele gets 3 mins for 60 - thats 20 runs an hr and say he averages 3 golds - thats 60 golds.
Farmers see the overal runs and gold per hr and thats what they are after - slower runs means less kills and less drops per hr

Riot Narita · May 02, 2011, 11:44 AM // 11:44

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

Virus - your looking at it how many farmers would call "the wrong way"

Agreed. You WILL get more drops if you kill one-at-a-time, very slowly. But you have to balance that against how many items you can get by killing very quickly - with a lower drop rate.

In order to compare my farming builds, I track how many drops I get after 1 hour non-stop. Then compare the averages taken over many hours. These averages are usually quite consistent (for event items, at least).

Having said that, Vaettirs have been dropping cupcakes for me with quite a wide variance this year:
1st Hr: 96 cupcakes
2nd Hr: 120 cupcakes
3rd Hr: 123 cupcakes
4th Hr: 123 cupcakes
5th Hr: 116 cupcakes
6th Hr: 104 cupcakes
7th Hr: 138 cupcakes

Average 117 cupcakes/hr so far. I don't often see blips like the 96 or 138... but they still kind of cancel each other out.