Curse

Leimone · Oct 20, 2011, 08:22 PM // 20:22

Alright, so I use the usual pvxwiki vaettir farm build with Great Dwarf Armor.
Sometimes however, I don't know if it's the 75% block chance that's not applying or if it's just not enough armor, but I just keep randomly taking too much damage and ending up dying.
Sometimes, it all works wonder and I don't drop below 50%.
Sometimes I get the insane hpregen but I take like 5-10dmg (all the time) which ends up with me dying.
Anyone know why?

Asia Skyly · Oct 20, 2011, 08:50 PM // 20:50

I have 2 monks which I made into legendary survivor(LS) while using a Mo/A. I did it during the easter event, and I used the eggs to boost my attributes. Conveniently you can do the same using corn, as it is Halloween this weekend.

I ended up reducing my attack skills in favor or shielding hands. You will still do enough damage, albeit a tad slower, but if your goal is to make a LS, the added protection from shielding hands served me well.

<--- IGN feel free to contact me in game and I can send you the build I used.

Druakian · Oct 20, 2011, 09:23 PM // 21:23

Make sure you recast your enchants as soon as they recharge as the +5 Armor Reduction Stacks until the previous enchant was due to run out.

Eg. 62 Second Shroud recharges in 45 Seconds gives +5 Armor under Shadow Form. Recast when it recharges and it boosts another +5 armor for the next 17 seconds until the first shroud was due to run out. Wiki page for SF probably explains it better.

Also...the A/Me Arcane Wastrels build is a lot faster than the A/Mo build TBH. Just a matter of getting your timing right.

Asia Skyly · Oct 20, 2011, 09:29 PM // 21:29

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Originally Posted by Druakian

Also...the A/Me Arcane Wastrels build is a lot faster than the A/Mo build TBH. Just a matter of getting your timing right.

He is using his monk

Your explanation on shroud is more than likely the explanation to his problem.

Druakian · Oct 20, 2011, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asia Skyly

He is using his monk

Your explanation on shroud is more than likely the explanation to his problem.

My Bad. So used to seeing A/Mo running out of Longeyes :P

Leimone · Oct 20, 2011, 10:02 PM // 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Druakian

Make sure you recast your enchants as soon as they recharge as the +5 Armor Reduction Stacks until the previous enchant was due to run out.

Eg. 62 Second Shroud recharges in 45 Seconds gives +5 Armor under Shadow Form. Recast when it recharges and it boosts another +5 armor for the next 17 seconds until the first shroud was due to run out. Wiki page for SF probably explains it better.

Also...the A/Me Arcane Wastrels build is a lot faster than the A/Mo build TBH. Just a matter of getting your timing right.

Ahhh, I see.
Does this also include GDA?
Ah man that makes so much more sense now, thank you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asia Skyly

He is using his monk

Your explanation on shroud is more than likely the explanation to his problem.

Thank you, made it clear for me

Alright, so I'm still taking randomly 29 damage.
And I think it's something up with Shroud that's either making me take 0 dmg or 4-6dmg from auto attacks really rapidly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oTeqe-355o Here's a video of how it actually is, in my eyes it is random as heck.
Can anyone actually point out where the errors are?

Attributes:
14 smithing prayers
5 divine favor
12 shadow arts
4 deadly arts

moshlicky · Oct 20, 2011, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Should you not be facing the Vaettir thus taking less damage? only thing i could think of cause bar that it looked all spot on.

Just asked a mate of mine who runs M/A and his atts are
shadow arts 12
smiting 11 (9+1+1)
protection 10 (9+1)
deadly arts 3

hope it helps.

Leimone · Oct 21, 2011, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by moshlicky

Should you not be facing the Vaettir thus taking less damage? only thing i could think of cause bar that it looked all spot on.

Just asked a mate of mine who runs M/A and his atts are
shadow arts 12
smiting 11 (9+1+1)
protection 10 (9+1)
deadly arts 3

hope it helps.

Assuming that's Mo/A.
Protection? I don't have any protection skills so I don't see how that would be useful.
Does he replace GDA with Shielding Hands?

Found out that random 29 dmg is because my hat has 5 armor, which is probably why.
I still don't understand why I take 5-6auto attack hits all the time instead of 0

Xelanger · Oct 21, 2011, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Replace one of your smites with Way of Perfection (at least, that's the bar I use anyway). Had 0 probs getting to LS despite the fact I don't farm at all, except the one time I pressed Shadow Form first before Deadly Paradox.

The additional Assassin enchantment helps damage reduc (see Shadow Form desc).

Hope that helps.

Also: does your shield have "Like a Rolling Stone"? Just checking~

Asia Skyly · Oct 21, 2011, 03:09 AM // 03:09

I am using this build...

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Essence Snow · Oct 21, 2011, 04:40 AM // 04:40

make sure u are using +10 vs earth shield (inscribable) and blessed insignias on all pieces

edit: just watched your vid.....cast both sf and shroud under deadly paradox....it helps

Leimone · Oct 21, 2011, 08:04 AM // 08:04

I'm appreciating all the replies guys, thanks!
I have a +10 vs earth.
And casting Shroud during DP doesn't negate the 5-6rapid dmg I keep taking every now and then.
If you look at the video, I take 0 dmg during the first cooldown wave, and when they wear off, I start taking a lot of damage again and end up dying.
Gonna try the new builds you guys shared, thanks!

aspi · Oct 21, 2011, 08:26 AM // 08:26

You could do with another long lasting sin enchantment, and when they are reloaded cast them again right away. 2 sin enchantments bring the damage I receive to 0. There is some kind of stacking bug that you need to abuse.

Essence Snow · Oct 21, 2011, 02:00 PM // 14:00

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Originally Posted by aspi

There is some kind of stacking bug that you need to abuse.

This^^

I use the exact same mo/a build as you did in your video. I take dmg as well, during 1 of 3 casts, but runs go off w/o a hitch.

Quote:

Bug.The -5 damage reduction is active for the expected duration of each enchantment, not its actual duration. Refreshing an Assassin enchantment before it ends reduces the received damage by an additional -5. There seems to be a limit to the amount of times a single enchantment can be renewed before damage reduction stops increasing for that enchantment.

And like aspi noted...you could just drop either kirins or symbol to bring another sin enchament (way of the master or way of perfection) then alternate that and shroud on sf casts. ex) cast 1 dp>sf>shroud.......cast 2) dp>sf>way of perfection.....cast 3) dp>sf>shroud etc.....etc...

Leimone · Oct 21, 2011, 04:53 PM // 16:53

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Originally Posted by Essence Snow

This^^

I use the exact same mo/a build as you did in your video. I take dmg as well, during 1 of 3 casts, but runs go off w/o a hitch.

And like aspi noted...you could just drop either kirins or symbol to bring another sin enchament (way of the master or way of perfection) then alternate that and shroud on sf casts. ex) cast 1 dp>sf>shroud.......cast 2) dp>sf>way of perfection.....cast 3) dp>sf>shroud etc.....etc...

Would that require 3 cooldown rounds, or still only 2?

Essence Snow · Oct 21, 2011, 05:09 PM // 17:09

As long as all aggro is on you tightly, it'll only take 2 (2 casts symbol, 2 casts balth aura). If any aggro is not then it'll take more to finish those not aggro'd. (ofc assuming your smiting high enough to get 21 dmg for every pulse)

Ember Lightcamp · Oct 31, 2011, 01:23 PM // 13:23

Okay, here's what I'm going to do for you I'll post you the best Mo/A vaettir build around. Just you gotta practice with it, it's a 55 monk. here's the bar, OwcU40H6lPP8o6hOrBmFvHQE5BA always cast prot spirit b4 sf , so do this Deadly->prot-> SF in that order, you should always be hit for 0 damage. ALWAYS :]