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Old Sep 13, 2011, 01:03 PM // 13:03   #201
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First of all many thanks for this farm.

I'am using the build from #151, with fully equipped & runed heroes, and it works great. Using EoE makes no difference regarding time.
The runs are always between 18/19 minutes.
I'd detected that you get less drops using EoE, because the destroyers die simultaneosly.

To prevent the baby dragon gets killed by the wave coming from back behind, place yourself a bit below its left foreleg.
So you get aggro instead of the dragon, team heals you, and kills the destroyers immediately.

All my heroes are set to guard, and my delver rank is 8. (Farming since r2, with little to no difference regarding time/deaths)

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Old Sep 14, 2011, 01:39 AM // 01:39   #202
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Okay guys I hope you can help me out, cause I'm about to despair...

I tried out almost every build suggested in here (and of course all the ones that got those "works awesome for me!!" responses).

But nothing seemed to work out fine (or at all - if I actually HAD been "afk").

I'm placing all of the 3 mesmer flags as suggested (right, middle, left) and tried variations of it.

At least using EoE at ~1:30 seems to get me through the first wave really, really well.

But my group always seems to fail to such an extent I can't even imagine what the hell I could be doing completely wrong. Or that any +30 or whatever HP rune would make any difference... correct me if they do.
And it's not even the same wave (sometimes 4, sometimes 5, sometime the dragon just doesnt wanna live anymore...).

Of course I also switched all my heroes to agressive, defensive and to partially offensive/defensive.

Although I seem to feel way more relaxed when they are defensive (cause alot of times the mesmers seem like they just can't WAIT anymore to run into their deaths when being set to agressive), it doesn't help in the end cause at least on wave 3 or 4 when they're coming from behind, the mesmers won't move a feet in defensive stance.

So I'd be REALLY thankful if someone could tell me EXACTLY what they do to make it work with or without expensive runes/equips.

Thank you so much!
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Old Sep 14, 2011, 09:03 AM // 09:03   #203
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Ok.

1- Check the builds i have played with in post #151.

2- Position your heroes like this:



3- Set ALL YOUR HEROES to guard.

4- Wait 20 min.

5- Win.

PS: I don't have Xandra on that char, so i used Talkhora instead of Ritu (bring the ritu build anyway) and Razah as mesmer. Also heroes with random weapons and not runned. Also title up (but i believe not much difference from that) = WIN

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Old Sep 14, 2011, 04:52 PM // 16:52   #204
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Each of my heroes got a +30hp rune, survivor insignias(+15/10hp) on breast/trouser, a superior rune with main-attribute in headpiece, and a minor rune with secondary attribute in gloves.
The free slots for runes/insignias are filled up with +10hp/2energy runes.
The weapons used are cheap greens, if possible with 60hp.

1:OQBCAswDP9HY64a55dwNd6B Gwen The Magekiller (E+10 60HP)
2:OQlCAswDP9HY6yzcNZwNVeD Razah The Magekiller (E+10 60HP)
3:OQBCAcwEP1PQempDXzI0KACI Norgu The Mindclouder (E+20 30HP)
4:OACjEyiM5QXTlTeTMTciSTTODTA Xandra Oola's Staff (E+15 30HP)
5:OAhkUsG3RFuTMzO8FqqDTp5k7iB Master of Whispers Woe Spreader (E+10 60HP)
6:OAhjUwGYoSxMKgfBVVDTTOSTjTA Olias Grim Shadow Staff (E+15 60HP)
7:OANEQTpW+LFz8FoAWPoFFQUVZHA Livia Grim Ghostly Staff (20 Energy + Ench +20% for prot-skills !!)

Build change:
Replaced Enfeebling Blood for Well of Suffering on 7:Livia.
Destroyers are dumb and stay in the well instead of running out.


Flagging:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/14/77131184.jpg/

All heroes are set to guard.
1 & 3 are flagged a bit outside, (see screenshot). Meelee-Destroyers go directly for the dragon, so 1&3 can tank them.
Mainteam is flagged to the middle, so they can reach/support 1,2,3 and the player.
I stay, like mentioned in my last posting, a bit below the dragons left foreleg to tank the wave coming from behind.

Failsave since 100+ runs :-D

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Old Sep 14, 2011, 05:46 PM // 17:46   #205
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Thank you both so much!!
Didn't expect such helpful and quick answers

I just wanted to state that I'm trying out TiagoS1's build right now and I've already had 3 or 4 runs now that went almost flawlessly!

Sometimes 1 mesmer dies alot, but it doesn't seem to do any harm to the outcome.

Also thanks to you Ragnahr! But the thing is, runes for ALL heroes are just too expensive for me at this point of time considering especially HP runes cost like over 3p per rune * 7 = 21p.

I'd be really happy to tell you if I will be able to do even more successful runs with the first build!
I'll repost here then.

I guess my only mistake was that I always stood too close to the mesmers and not inside the baby dragon. I'll stay in touch.
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Old Sep 14, 2011, 06:31 PM // 18:31   #206
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Thank you both so much!!
Didn't expect such helpful and quick answers

I just wanted to state that I'm trying out TiagoS1's build right now and I've already had 3 or 4 runs now that went almost flawlessly!

Sometimes 1 mesmer dies alot, but it doesn't seem to do any harm to the outcome.

Also thanks to you Ragnahr! But the thing is, runes for ALL heroes are just too expensive for me at this point of time considering especially HP runes cost like over 3p per rune * 7 = 21p.

I'd be really happy to tell you if I will be able to do even more successful runs with the first build!
I'll repost here then.

I guess my only mistake was that I always stood too close to the mesmers and not inside the baby dragon. I'll stay in touch.
Glad to know. Have fun.
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Old Sep 15, 2011, 01:06 AM // 01:06   #207
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God this stupid mission is driving me NUTS!! ...

After a few more tries I'm getting the feeling it's like complete COINCIDENCE if no single member dies, one dies a few times, a few die or if the whole group wipes tremendously!

The best (/ most ironic) thing is: Right after I decided that maybe the lack of any single rune could be causing that difference in those cases where it is getting really close and tough and bought runes with at least 15-30 HP and main attribute +1 for everyone, Gwen is now just getting SLAUGHTERED LIKE NO TOMORROW... -.-
She's even the one with the most HP out of all of my heroes right now.

Well, I'm at 5 out of 10 Cloth of the Brotherhood so 5 left and then I'm out :/

God, something goes terribly wrong for me with this. And I don't have a single clue, what it is.

PS: But don't get me wrong guys, I'm still very very thankful for all your effort and help :]


Edit: Another one, this time almost PERFECT... lol.

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Old Sep 16, 2011, 07:04 AM // 07:04   #208
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Well after much tinkering I got it to work for me! yay! I only have 2 mes heros and 2 necro heros, so after starting with that helpful post here.

I turned one of my ele heros into a mesmer and a monk hero into a necro. Sure it was a bit messy but I'm 2 for 3 so far.
Going to work on finishing nightfall now. hehe
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Old Sep 16, 2011, 09:21 AM // 09:21   #209
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God this stupid mission is driving me NUTS!! ...

After a few more tries I'm getting the feeling it's like complete COINCIDENCE if no single member dies, one dies a few times, a few die or if the whole group wipes tremendously!

The best (/ most ironic) thing is: Right after I decided that maybe the lack of any single rune could be causing that difference in those cases where it is getting really close and tough and bought runes with at least 15-30 HP and main attribute +1 for everyone, Gwen is now just getting SLAUGHTERED LIKE NO TOMORROW... -.-
She's even the one with the most HP out of all of my heroes right now.

Well, I'm at 5 out of 10 Cloth of the Brotherhood so 5 left and then I'm out :/

God, something goes terribly wrong for me with this. And I don't have a single clue, what it is.

PS: But don't get me wrong guys, I'm still very very thankful for all your effort and help :]


Edit: Another one, this time almost PERFECT... lol.
Tbh i only did about 15-20 runs with that build, but i can assure than never failed. Somethings happening ..

Try to change to Normal Mode lool

Sry can't help more than that, HF
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Old Sep 17, 2011, 05:28 PM // 17:28   #210
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@ Klaphood

Put all heroes in "Fight" mode, except for the Rit, which must be in "Guard".
That's the only thing you have different than me, and I have almost 100% success
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Old Sep 29, 2011, 07:12 PM // 19:12   #211
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Congrats Greenough for this teambuild is awesome. I just followed the very first post´s set up and made a little adjustment by using the 3rd and 4th E Surge/Ineptitude builds with necromancer heroes with Signet of Lost Souls. Even works without fear of Chaos Storms. All my heroes still manage to remain standing with stalves. I went with my paragon (main character) and used a motivation build with pet (good chance to lvl it up). If anyone wants to go with a paragon I recommend taking Song of Power. Keeps re-filling up everybody´s energy bar.

I first read all 11 pages before my first attempt and wanted to suggest moderators to remove those noob questions made by lazy people who dont want to read previous posts and just re-ask 10 times more what was already asked before. They make this thread extend unnecesary long just because of their lame stance. Other than that, good work for putting up all these experiences for the good share to benefit the entire GW community.

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Old Oct 03, 2011, 01:38 AM // 01:38   #212
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I just posted the non merc version on gwpvx.com for easier use. feel free to add this to the top post so ppl can find it easier.

http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_Glint%27s_Heroway
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Old Oct 04, 2011, 03:29 AM // 03:29   #213
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God this stupid mission is driving me NUTS!! ...

After a few more tries I'm getting the feeling it's like complete COINCIDENCE if no single member dies, one dies a few times, a few die or if the whole group wipes tremendously!

The best (/ most ironic) thing is: Right after I decided that maybe the lack of any single rune could be causing that difference in those cases where it is getting really close and tough and bought runes with at least 15-30 HP and main attribute +1 for everyone, Gwen is now just getting SLAUGHTERED LIKE NO TOMORROW... -.-
She's even the one with the most HP out of all of my heroes right now.

Well, I'm at 5 out of 10 Cloth of the Brotherhood so 5 left and then I'm out :/

God, something goes terribly wrong for me with this. And I don't have a single clue, what it is.

PS: But don't get me wrong guys, I'm still very very thankful for all your effort and help :]


Edit: Another one, this time almost PERFECT... lol.
Are you looking to see when it faults?
I noticed that there where 2 or 3 places that depending on how the Heroes attacked would result in a wipe or a success.

Especially on wave #3 when you get 2 Destroyers of Hope from one direction and 2 Destroyers of Thought on the other, the 2 Destroyers of Hope comes first and if all heroes lock on to them the Destroyers of Thought eat the group in like 10seconds.

Other problems are wave #2 and #4 if a melee Destroyer gets loose from it's group and attacks the baby dragon and all the heroes are occupied with other Destroyers as the baby dragon can't take much of a beating.

Wave #5 can be a problem if your heroes in front don't aggro because the back group is to far away but this is a minor problem the ones above are usually the reason for a wipe from what I've seen (and I watched through a "few").
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Old Oct 18, 2011, 07:21 AM // 07:21   #214
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I have been using this setup for about a week and have to say THANKS - it works! I have a dwarven rank 7 and other that casting EoE at about 1:30 that is pretty much all I have to do. The quest is successfully completed at least 85-90% of the time. With minor help this can be 100%. This is cool.

EDIT: I have ALL of my heros set to Fight mode.

Thanks

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Old Oct 19, 2011, 07:22 AM // 07:22   #215
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Most runs will end in the low 19 minute mark with some getting into high 18's. highest score i've ended with is 2139.

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Your build can be improved upon by bringing a BiP and replacing your E/Mo with a ST defensive rit.

I use this setup and ended up with a slightly higher score, zero death, and I don't even need to cast EoE now since my hero brings it so I completely afk until picking up stuff at the end. No deaths for the last 5 times that I tried. Since it is so safe, my setup can probably be improved upon also.



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Old Oct 19, 2011, 05:21 PM // 17:21   #216
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Only problem with this now is that prices for cloths have bottomed out horrendously! I'm glad I was one of the first - @10k apiece, I made 600-800k off of this. Now I'd be lucky to get half that, and they're hard sells too.
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Old Oct 26, 2011, 10:25 AM // 10:25   #217
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Has anyone worked out a HM afk build yet?
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Old Oct 27, 2011, 01:31 AM // 01:31   #218
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Has anyone worked out a HM afk build yet?
After 218 posts and countless views the answer is............

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 09:08 PM // 21:08   #219
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Ok.

1- Check the builds i have played with in post #151.

2- Position your heroes like this:



3- Set ALL YOUR HEROES to guard.

4- Wait 20 min.

5- Win.

PS: I don't have Xandra on that char, so i used Talkhora instead of Ritu (bring the ritu build anyway) and Razah as mesmer. Also heroes with random weapons and not runned. Also title up (but i believe not much difference from that) = WIN
Worked like a charm, have done 5 perfect runs with this so far and heroes have no runes or special weapons. The first run my heroes weren't even all the way leveled up. Thanks!
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Old Oct 28, 2011, 11:49 PM // 23:49   #220
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don't forget to open the chest after quest is done, otherwise u wasted 20mins
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