Curse

drkn · Aug 08, 2011, 02:15 PM // 14:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by T1Cybernetic

If it's not too much to ask could someone capture it and post the video? It would put an end to a few questions and I for one would be grateful

Just a headsup - done that, it's compressed and ready, gonna upload it to YT sometime later or tomorrow, then add a link here.

Marverick · Aug 08, 2011, 02:26 PM // 14:26

I run a BiP Necro mostly to fuel Mesmers since they always run out of energy, and it also lets me run a regular Monk.
3 Illusion Mesmers, 2 N/Me Domination (replace if you have Mercs), 1 N/Rt BiP Resto, 2 Monks

Swingline · Aug 08, 2011, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by TiagoS1

Check builds from post #151. I use no ER.

I just loaded a N/Rt healer, watched 2 runs to see how they did and it worked fine.

drkn · Aug 08, 2011, 06:12 PM // 18:12

Link to the video of the farming: click!

The builds are the same as used in the OP, only used the common heroes instead of specialised mercenaries.
EoE may be not used at all, but it speeds up the process a bit and i wasn't really AFK anyways, so i popped it every now and then. If not being completely AFK, you might also take Winds and Summon Ice Imp. By Urals Hammer! may help in critical moments, which sometimes occur; but as said, nothing is really necessary and it may be done completely AFK.
The run took 20 minutes and 35 seconds. The only thing the player actually has to do is be present by the end to collect worthy drops and open the chest.
Heroes sometimes die, it's nothing to worry about. Your toon may sometimes die, too, so it's not advised to farm Glint's AFK for survivor.
It doesn't matter if heroes have runes or modded weapons - look at my Norgu, for example - but it's crucial to have non-magical weapons on most of them, especially the three frontline mesmers. You will avoid getting into Chaos Storm this way.
One odd thing, though, is that despite heroes are set to aggressive, they do not rush out to attack Destroyers of Compassion at the beginning of the second wave, until they come up and start attacking the party.

If the thread's author has nothing against it, a mod could paste the link to this post and/or the video to the opening post, please.

edit:
Hero skill templates, in 1-8 order:
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OQZEAaICPocCTvpnDcgGkBID
OQhkAoB8AGK0LAC4KAKQe2yXGwFD
OAWiIwh8cCMdTPcKXTaO5GmA
OgVDI8gsKnw0b65AHoBZAyA
OghjwMhsIPXzyp3kZixkmTuhJA
OgNDwcb/O1CaxMRLWPureESC

The build is really flexible, feel free to experiment.

Runes, insignias:
High health and +1 runes to the used attributes are helpful, but not necessary. Norgu had only +3 illusion magic in headpiece, relic of an old build. Vekk was runed up for Water Magic, Zhed for Fire Magic. Razah and Sousuke had no runes whatsoever.

Weapons:
Defensive spear + shield set is probably the best, then bows, but any non-caster weapon is suggested, at least for the three first mesmers, those that you flag separately. That's why Gwen wields a scythe (she probably wouldn't die with a defensive set) - enemy mesmers don't cast Chaos Storm then. On the other hand, Razah and Sousuke had their starting caster equipment, and it worked.

T1Cybernetic · Aug 13, 2011, 05:20 PM // 17:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkn

Link to the video of the farming: click!

The builds are the same as used in the OP, only used the common heroes instead of specialised mercenaries.
EoE may be not used at all, but it speeds up the process a bit and i wasn't really AFK anyways, so i popped it every now and then. If not being completely AFK, you might also take Winds and Summon Ice Imp. By Urals Hammer! may help in critical moments, which sometimes occur; but as said, nothing is really necessary and it may be done completely AFK.
The run took 20 minutes and 35 seconds. The only thing the player actually has to do is be present by the end to collect worthy drops and open the chest.
Heroes sometimes die, it's nothing to worry about. Your toon may sometimes die, too, so it's not advised to farm Glint's AFK for survivor.
It doesn't matter if heroes have runes or modded weapons - look at my Norgu, for example - but it's crucial to have non-magical weapons on most of them, especially the three frontline mesmers. You will avoid getting into Chaos Storm this way.
One odd thing, though, is that despite heroes are set to aggressive, they do not rush out to attack Destroyers of Compassion at the beginning of the second wave, until they come up and start attacking the party.

If the thread's author has nothing against it, a mod could paste the link to this post and/or the video to the opening post, please.

That's awesome thank you very much for videoing

Thenameless Wonder · Aug 14, 2011, 02:44 AM // 02:44

By the way you can set to guard and it works too, it feels safer (at least to me)

kleps · Aug 15, 2011, 05:38 AM // 05:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkn

Link to the video of the farming: click!

The builds are the same as used in the OP, only used the common heroes instead of specialised mercenaries.
EoE may be not used at all, but it speeds up the process a bit and i wasn't really AFK anyways, so i popped it every now and then. If not being completely AFK, you might also take Winds and Summon Ice Imp. By Urals Hammer! may help in critical moments, which sometimes occur; but as said, nothing is really necessary and it may be done completely AFK.
The run took 20 minutes and 35 seconds. The only thing the player actually has to do is be present by the end to collect worthy drops and open the chest.
Heroes sometimes die, it's nothing to worry about. Your toon may sometimes die, too, so it's not advised to farm Glint's AFK for survivor.
It doesn't matter if heroes have runes or modded weapons - look at my Norgu, for example - but it's crucial to have non-magical weapons on most of them, especially the three frontline mesmers. You will avoid getting into Chaos Storm this way.
One odd thing, though, is that despite heroes are set to aggressive, they do not rush out to attack Destroyers of Compassion at the beginning of the second wave, until they come up and start attacking the party.

If the thread's author has nothing against it, a mod could paste the link to this post and/or the video to the opening post, please.

mind posting your temp codes?

KingCrab · Aug 28, 2011, 02:59 AM // 02:59

So what I'm getting from the above is that the AI will only cast Chaos Storm on casters so by giving them spear + shield, the spell will not be cast?

Anaraky · Aug 28, 2011, 09:28 PM // 21:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCrab

So what I'm getting from the above is that the AI will only cast Chaos Storm on casters so by giving them spear + shield, the spell will not be cast?

Should work that way, yes. Chaos Storm is regarded as an anti-caster spell by the AI and the AI uses weapon to differentiate between casters and non-casters. For example, the AI will never use BiP on anyone wielding a martial weapon (Swords, Bows etc) nor will they ever use Splinter Weapon on anyone with a Wand or a Staff, no matter what professions those who are wielding the weapons are.

gunster · Sep 03, 2011, 03:37 PM // 15:37

I only have 2 ele heroes (souske is level 11 XD) so can anyone see if one of the eles can be substituted by another primary prof? Like can I run UA instead of bonder? (i already tried this, too many failures

lol)

Plutoman · Sep 03, 2011, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anaraky

Should work that way, yes. Chaos Storm is regarded as an anti-caster spell by the AI and the AI uses weapon to differentiate between casters and non-casters. For example, the AI will never use BiP on anyone wielding a martial weapon (Swords, Bows etc) nor will they ever use Splinter Weapon on anyone with a Wand or a Staff, no matter what professions those who are wielding the weapons are.

Almost right - BiP is used on casters, regardless of weapon (check the wiki). Only on melee professions if using a caster weapon.

manager · Sep 03, 2011, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunster

I only have 2 ele heroes (souske is level 11 XD) so can anyone see if one of the eles can be substituted by another primary prof? Like can I run UA instead of bonder? (i already tried this, too many failures

lol)

You don't need Ele heroes or even monks. I do this with 3 KSS Mesmers, 3 Necros and one Rit.

Mesmer 1 : OQBCAswzPIPb64a7gb60jnC
Mesmer 2 : OQBCAcw0PQempzIEXDC4KAPF
Mesmer 3 : OQBCAswzPIPb64aygbqgjnC
Necro/Rt : OAhkUwG4hEqTM7LUVtDDTp5k7iB
Necro/Rt : OAhiYwh8UzqqZMp5kbYW9GnA
Necro/Mo: OANDUshvS7ZVVKgfBzE1DBE1NA
Ritualist/R: OAKjYNiMJPXzyp3cZS5ccMToDA

The Rit has EoE so you don't need to bring anything yourself.

1) Place Mesmers + rest same way as the other builds
2) Go AFK.
....
3) Collect your cloth and other drops.

gunster · Sep 03, 2011, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by manager

You don't need Ele heroes or even monks. I do this with 3 KSS Mesmers, 3 Necros and one Rit.

Mesmer 1 : OQBCAswzPIPb64a7gb60jnC
Mesmer 2 : OQBCAcw0PQempzIEXDC4KAPF
Mesmer 3 : OQBCAswzPIPb64aygbqgjnC
Necro/Rt : OAhkUwG4hEqTM7LUVtDDTp5k7iB
Necro/Rt : OAhiYwh8UzqqZMp5kbYW9GnA
Necro/Mo: OANDUshvS7ZVVKgfBzE1DBE1NA
Ritualist/R: OAKjYNiMJPXzyp3cZS5ccMToDA

The Rit has EoE so you don't need to bring anything yourself.

1) Place Mesmers + rest same way as the other builds
2) Go AFK.
....
3) Collect your cloth and other drops.

Are runes needed in this build?

EDIT: Works fine without runes. THANK YOU so much

Swingline · Sep 04, 2011, 03:54 AM // 03:54

has there been a slight stealth nerf for this? I am getting destroyers that are spawning and not moving. Might just be a bug tho.

manager · Sep 04, 2011, 10:46 AM // 10:46

Eh? i did it yesterday and the only that don't move are the Elementalist ones (Lives?) but that's just how they are, i think.

Lag Hell · Sep 04, 2011, 12:54 PM // 12:54

Hi there

So far ive tried both drkn's and manager's build and cant seem to get either of them to work. My heroes seem to be having trouble with the destroyers of compassion (dervish). is there some specific hero setting im missing? ie do i set them to fight or guard. Currently ther equipped with random shields/spears and even bows that dont offer any real bonuses, but ther mostly runed up with afew radiance insignias and attunement/vitae runes. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

manager · Sep 04, 2011, 01:20 PM // 13:20

Hmmm ... I put them all on aggressive.

I've done it without any special equipment, just the heroes default items, and properly equipped(40/40 sets, Sup Runes, HP insignias+runes) and worked both ways :s

EDIT: I've reread the OP and seen drkn's video again. The only thing i do different is: after flagging the 3 Mesmers on the same place as them, i also flag the rest of the heroes a bit back , like a few feet away from the head of the baby dragon.

gunster · Sep 04, 2011, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lag Hell

Hi there

So far ive tried both drkn's and manager's build and cant seem to get either of them to work. My heroes seem to be having trouble with the destroyers of compassion (dervish). is there some specific hero setting im missing? ie do i set them to fight or guard. Currently ther equipped with random shields/spears and even bows that dont offer any real bonuses, but ther mostly runed up with afew radiance insignias and attunement/vitae runes. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

I've slightly modified manager's build. keep everything the same, but change the Rt's build to this:

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It provides more healing imo. It's just a bit slower (avg time 22-23min.). The only time i've failed is when for some reason my heroes bunched up and got wiped at wave 5. Normally it shouldn't happen because everyone is aggressive except for xandra who is on guard. To prevent this I usually just check back a bit early at 16-18min. when they're on wave 5. if anyone's dead, I use res sig and sunspear sig and the heroes does the rest and i finish in another 4 min.

Nokkers · Sep 09, 2011, 02:13 AM // 02:13

So after numerous failed attempts, I finally completed a run. It was incredibly smooth with zero deaths. I actually sat and watched the run and threw in some EoE from time to time. Anyways, here's the team that worked for me:

Me/Rt Inept x2
Me/E E-surge
N/Rt Discord x3
Rt/Me SoS

Two of my mesmers have minor illusion runes and a survivor rune on their chest. I didn't time the run, so I couldn't tell you how long it took. Anyways, just wanted to share my experience and thank everyone who has contributed to this thread.

DaddyBearShaman · Sep 12, 2011, 02:40 PM // 14:40

Hi there, to the maker of this build, thank you Greenough!
It is simply ingenuous and one of the reasons I am still playing GW after so many years.

Thanks again! It worked a treat!