Curse

Zephyr of Light · Feb 25, 2016, 12:04 PM // 12:04

Does anyone know if enemy AI is capable of using Signet of Disruption on a person casting spells while under the effect of Shadow Form?

Or do they treat you as incapable of being casted at because of Shadow Form?

I'd really like to hear more about this, so if you know please share it below.

MaxBorken · Feb 25, 2016, 01:24 PM // 13:24

Casting of Sf is interrupted fairly regularly in speedclears. It's the main reason an experienced tank dies.

Under SF, Enemy spells that target you fail, but signets aren't spells.... So I would say that Signet of Disruption should work, even with SF up.

Max

N O V E · Feb 25, 2016, 02:33 PM // 14:33

In underworld Mindblade Spectres use leech signet and may rupt sf, so the answer to your question is yes, they rupt with signets. In hard mode , in some dungeons, they can rupt SF too with magebane.

Zephyr of Light · Feb 25, 2016, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Thanks nove, thats exactly what I was looking for to know : That even with SF (coding) they still know how to bypass the effect with signets...

Sadly, this closes the chapter and the idea of farming this quest.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Calling_All_Thugs

Iv done some research into farming that quest.
The only two concerns were : Shatter Assault (dual attack removes ench), and the skill Signet of Disruption..

Trapping ranger with the skill "Shadow of Haste" seems now the only way to have a success rating (SoS is obsolete, you need true spike damage, or total immunity to interuptions / blinding or blocking Lead and Dual attacks.)

And these were my concerns regarding to farm that specific quest. (Corsair, Dwarven and War in Kryta mobs in a OS loot table setting).

Edit : The only other build I can think of that just may have a chance then, is assassin mesmer with :

Shadow Form, Shroud of Distress, Channeling, Mantra of Concentration, Mental Block, Unseen Fury, Wastrels "I Am Unstoppable", Wastrels Demise

Though this way, every run should require an Essence of Celerity.. and that may just be really expensive for serval runs without knowing if those mobs will drop OS versions of Nightfall skins.

N O V E · Feb 25, 2016, 09:07 PM // 21:07

i have no clue, i am not a farmer but... something like this?

ele / mes

mantra of resolve + mantra of earth + stone striker + obsidian flesh + armor of earth, + silver armor + Stone Daggers + 1 optional skill

Zephyr of Light · Feb 25, 2016, 10:08 PM // 22:08

Im pretty sure that wont work, you need some Form of regeneration to counter degen (bleed dissease), and block & blind(blocking lead attacks and dual attacks).

Only the Jade Brotherhood Assassin is the most primaire target that has die either die first, or be CC'd first (Throw Dirt, Mental Block, Whirling Defense, Shroud of Distress)

But since they are smart enough to rupt through shadowform with Signet of Disruption, means you definately need anti rupt..
And thus Ranger / Derv primairies are out the window.

I think either Assassin Mesmer is the way to go, or be so very nifty trapper ranger that can break aggro.
Not sure a terra ele will do, unless it has a blind for the Jade Brotherhood Assassin, or anti rupt versus Jade Brotherhood Mesmers.

Finding a good combination of both seems to be very hard :/

Rushin Roulette · Feb 26, 2016, 09:24 AM // 09:24

You could try either
http://guildwiki.gamepedia.com/Mantra_of_Resolve (Theoretically a big Energy problem)
or
http://guildwiki.gamepedia.com/Mantra_of_Concentration (one shot interruption protection. Theoretically Doesnt work if 2 or more Foes with Signets are against you).

The other thing is, both clash with Deadly paradox on the Permasin (without the Celerity, which would be really expensive for a theoretical chance of maybe getting a nice drop).

It could be made to work with the Ele Obsyflesh farmer, but would need a careful balance with Mantra of Earth (Luckily Mantra of Earth recharges faster), so that it should be able to go up again after casting Obsyflesh.

N O V E · Feb 26, 2016, 01:18 PM // 13:18

I agree with Rushin , if there are 2 or more foes with signets you can't use Mantra of concentration or pious concentration (derv skill, earth prayers), but you can bring power stones, they recharge skills so you have another chance to recast SF or obsi flesh.
Maibe glyph of concentration will work to prevent rupt on 1 single skill.

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Im pretty sure that wont work, you need some Form of regeneration to counter degen (bleed dissease), and block & blind(blocking lead attacks and dual attacks).

To regen HP for bleeding you can use Feel No Pain skill and/or Elemental Lord.
Sliver Armor has 52-53% block skills with earth magic at 16-17.

Zephyr of Light · Feb 27, 2016, 02:08 PM // 14:08

Perhaps Ether Feast is a good optional..

Reason im trying to get this all figured out is because this just may be thé Holy grail in loot tables since the Mausoleum Bug.

Just imagine all the OS goodness that could drop from this area, OS Dwarven stuff, OS Kourna/Istani stuff, OS Krytan stuff, OS Kaineng District stuff, its all there in one space.
Potentionally a real gold mine undiscovered, or Atleast unsuccesfully attempted to be farmed with/without cons.

Though im almost convinced either Whirling Rangers, Assasin Mesmers or trappers have th absolute greatest potential in success ratings.

MaxBorken · Feb 27, 2016, 02:56 PM // 14:56

I hope it doesn't yield gold OS dwarven items. That will singlehandedly undermine the rarity of some of the rarest items known to exist.

I suspect it won't though, as these were completely removed from the drop tables.

Max

StueyG · Feb 28, 2016, 11:49 AM // 11:49

I hope it doesn't yield gold OS dwarven items either. I think I'd delete GW after that and never return. :P

Riel · Mar 01, 2016, 08:53 AM // 08:53

the only way to bypass it is unseen fury+mantra of resolve, however you may have huge energy problems, thats why i'd use Channeling, to get your ene up a bit once u cast a spell, if you will go down to 0 energy, use zealous scythe, 2 hits and you should be able to cast any spell and with Channeling up you cant basically run out of energy.

obby flesh tank requires Channeling/BS so if you're going solo Channeling will work as E/Me, however there is no way to bypass the slightest health degeneration, since as you have to be e/me you cant take any shadowsteps to hp up from time to time.

So it appears wastrel sin will be the best pick, you may consider taking visage, to rip mobs of energy a bit so wastrels are more efficient.