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Starfire Crystalite · May 10, 2007, 02:07 AM // 02:07

1. Warriors are very boring to play

thats really all i have to say about this...id love to have fun playing a warrior, but i just cant, ive had 3 i brought all of them up to level 20 and i got bored after that. With a derv i have been enjoying every minute of it, cool armor, nice skills, actually difficult to be really good at.

gimme some help having fun playing a war pls. id love to have one because they can farm most things and can bring in alot of money.

Halmyr · May 10, 2007, 02:27 AM // 02:27

You can force your self to play and enjoy the warrior class or any class in general, I enjoy my warrior, I enjoy being up front with some armor, a weapon and a shield, leading my party to victory (or sometimes defeat

)

When ever I play any other class, I have to stop my self from charging in first, a habit I got from playing warrior class's.

You dont have to play warrior if you dont want it. If you enjoy playing a derv, play it, and become good at it, show other people what dervish are really made of, I'm sure I give some credit to warriors out there, make up for the tonnes of bad warrior out there.

So my suggestion is, play what you like, and be good at it

P.S, renting here wont really make you like the warrior more.

blue.rellik · May 10, 2007, 03:31 AM // 03:31

Well it's personal preference. I know people who love assns yet I can't see how they're fun

I'm enjoy bashing things into the floor with a big hammer or axe

placebo overdose · May 10, 2007, 03:41 AM // 03:41

either give up on them, create one just for farming, or find something you like about them i love their versatility sword,axe,hammer,tatics,strength,high damage, high armor, spiking, pressure,and tons more i have found i can do tons of things with my war but definantly not spellcaster ~_~

Lurid · May 10, 2007, 03:48 AM // 03:48

I just like how versatile they are. Then again so is my Monk so go figure, and most other characters.

Age · May 10, 2007, 03:49 AM // 03:49

I would say if you have 3 Warriors have 3 different types of Warriors one with sword one with axe and one with hammer. You could switch to /R,/P for bow skills low cost though and spear thrower.

This way gives you variety.

Grizmor · May 10, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39

Lemme guess you think warriors are "tanks" that are supposed to stand there and spam stances while doing crap dps.

Well maybe you need to make a warrior bar that doesn't suck. I tried playing a derv and gave up long before the end of the nightfall. Either you make a cookie cutter Balth derv or you load up on and spam enchants so you dont get smashed to paste. All that reliance on energy and I feel like dervs just run out of steam in long battles. My warrior keeps trucking on through everything and can kill single targets faster than anything else I have ever played. And I can do it with 120 AL to boot. Then again I am a pvp'er first and foremost so I acutally know what the hell I am doing.

LightningHell · May 10, 2007, 10:37 AM // 10:37

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Originally Posted by Grizmor

Lemme guess you think warriors are "tanks" that are supposed to stand there and spam stances while doing crap dps.

Well maybe you need to make a warrior bar that doesn't suck. I tried playing a derv and gave up long before the end of the nightfall. Either you make a cookie cutter Balth derv or you load up on and spam enchants so you dont get smashed to paste. All that reliance on energy and I feel like dervs just run out of steam in long battles. My warrior keeps trucking on through everything and can kill single targets faster than anything else I have ever played. And I can do it with 120 AL to boot. Then again I am a pvp'er first and foremost so I acutally know what the hell I am doing.

Avatar of Balthazar sucks. I don't really see many Melandru dervishes "spamming enchants".

Although I agree with tanking sucking.

Halmyr · May 10, 2007, 02:58 PM // 14:58

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Originally Posted by Grizmor

Lemme guess you think warriors are "tanks" that are supposed to stand there and spam stances while doing crap dps.

Well maybe you need to make a warrior bar that doesn't suck. I tried playing a derv and gave up long before the end of the nightfall. Either you make a cookie cutter Balth derv or you load up on and spam enchants so you dont get smashed to paste. All that reliance on energy and I feel like dervs just run out of steam in long battles. My warrior keeps trucking on through everything and can kill single targets faster than anything else I have ever played. And I can do it with 120 AL to boot. Then again I am a pvp'er first and foremost so I acutally know what the hell I am doing.

Ohh...I can feel the leetness pouring out if you

/sacarms off

Really man, you don't have to be aggressive, with brigning 3 warrior at lvl 20, the op must Know a thing or two about being a warrior at least.

Not all class are made for every one, I'm a warrior, I play PvE, and I know what I'm doing in that enviroment, your is PvP, both require different styles of play. So just relax and take a deep breath. Just because you don't like playing the dervish does not mean its bad.

For Example, you think all the Derv are either Avatar of Baltazar or full of enchanment, well maybe the bad one's, but the good one will have very effective builts that can support it self during long battle. Bet you feel that way cause those are the only 2 builts you made ( don't have to lie, we know this)

Who's better, the Good dervish player wth a bad built or the bad warrior with a good built. I'l go for the Good dervish player because he know's what his doing with that class.

So know cut the "I'm a PvPer, I'm better then you stuff" because it just makes you look bad.

oh, and too the OP, Dervish seem to have quite a few good farming spot and can even do droknar run's, just check out the Farming forum, and again, just play what you like, you can't force your self to enjoy a class.

Dutch Masterr · May 10, 2007, 03:27 PM // 15:27

Pretty much what some other people said...you cant force yourself to like a class. Ive been trying for ages to enjoy playing a dervish, but it just isnt my style so i gave up =X

LightningHell · May 10, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29

PvP does not directly translate to PvE, that is correct.

However, in PvP builds are usually optimized, since PvP requires you do your best against your opponent; in PvE, you fight against opponents with subpar tactics and intelligence, as well as subpar skillbars. PvP builds are generally very much usable in PvE, with perhaps a tweak or two.

Tanking isn't optimal. There have been loads of threads about it already...I'm tired. Ehh...

You usually steamroll in PvE anyway, whatever you run. The ease of PvE and the quickness of battles would already diminish the usefulness of tanking. Combined with the Warrior's proven damage potential, it would seem like a waste to be a tank, mm?

Of course, there are specific areas where a tank is preferred, I'm just illustrating general PvE here.

Bryant Again · May 10, 2007, 08:42 PM // 20:42

If you're not having fun with a warrior, then don't play it. If you're having fun with a Dervish, stick with that.

Why do you feel the need to have to have fun with a warrior?

Age · May 10, 2007, 09:27 PM // 21:27

I do for the most do what Grizmore does my Warrior is set up to do damage not tank.

Ishtar Serket · May 10, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06

If you don't like a profession...don't use it. Delete it and create a new character. For me I don't think I could settle for anything less than running every profession as primary (even if its lame you have to buy a couple character slots to buy the 10 slots needed). Each profession can be quite versatile, especially the war that everyone assumes just tanks.
As for farming, just get your derv a second set of armour to let him or her run a 130 derv build. Outside enchant stripping, it can farm many areas easily and get decent returns both gold and drop wise..though moreso in hard mode now.

warpedheat101 · May 10, 2007, 11:11 PM // 23:11

well i was in almost the same boat...i made 5 sins got em to lvl 20 then just deleted em...until i found some builds that i thought looked fun...and little by little i found them to be more enjoyable...now i play it more than anything cept ofcourse my monk

Issac · May 10, 2007, 11:13 PM // 23:13

I had the same problem with eles I made like 3 of them deleted the first 2 though, still have the 3rd one but don't play her much. You just have to find differnt builds that you enjoy playing. Try differnt combinations and stuff like that.

rick1027 · May 11, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11

well have to say it i hate playing monk always have and always do. ive tried it three times and did well enough to get compliments on my style but i dont like so i wont play so my advice if you dont like warriors dont play em. you can use a lot of other classes to farm

Dean Harper · May 11, 2007, 01:30 AM // 01:30

i know exactly what you mean. Warriors take absolutely NO skill on the players part. (Except for build choice, which up until recently could be found on Wiki). The problem with Wars is that they have no variation in how you play. All it is is hack and slash, hack and slash. Of course, you can change weapons, but its basically the same thing OVER AND OVER. For some people, that is all they need to enjoy Guild Wars. But for more.... lets say conditioned players, it takes some variation to your builds and play style to really get the full Guild Wars experience.

I personally only play professions where i can change things up. My favorite is the Mesmer, perhaps the most diverse profession in the game. You can choose from many different styles of builds and play. You can have a basic damage dealer, an interrupter, a shutdown memser, an e-denial mesmer, a degen mesmer, a support mesmer, or even farming and soloing mesmers. I also enjoy playing Necromancers, who have basically the same variety, except for interruption and e-denial.

Dervishes are often a favorite of mine because they are diversified. They have different attributes that make them unique. Of course, you could say that a monk is not unique, but what other game has Protection skills? Aren't most games based on just healing? You may also say that a ranger is not unique, but what about thier pets? Theyr Exepertise skills, along with their Preparations and Wilderness Survival skills. All of Guild Wars' professions are very unique except for that of the Warrior. EVERY MMO that i have heard of has a warrior type class, take WoW for example. Of course, people are going to criticise me for saying that Wars dont do anything versatile and unique. They will say things like, but what about shouts, tactics, and strength skills? Wars can farm, solo, and tank! Why are you criticising wars when they can do all of that??? I am doing this because that is ALL they do.... I dont play a warrior. Never have, never will. Of course, Guild Wars would be a very unbalanced game without Warriors, but I am not saying that they shouldnt be around. I love the fact that there is someone taking the heat while i can stay in the backlines and hex and annoy the hell out of people. If people want to play Warriors, by all means do so, but just know that they ARE a VERY boring profession.

-Dean

Bryant Again · May 11, 2007, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by Dean Harper

i know exactly what you mean. Warriors take absolutely NO skill on the players part. (Except for build choice, which up until recently could be found on Wiki). The problem with Wars is that they have no variation in how you play. All it is is hack and slash, hack and slash. Of course, you can change weapons, but its basically the same thing OVER AND OVER.

You can say that for every class, really.

There are also a few builds out there that don't require hack-and-slashing, just as there are a few caster classes out there that don't require a whole lot of offensive casting.

Lutae · May 11, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55

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Originally Posted by Dean Harper

i know exactly what you mean. Warriors take absolutely NO skill on the players part. (Except for build choice, which up until recently could be found on Wiki). The problem with Wars is that they have no variation in how you play. All it is is hack and slash, hack and slash. Of course, you can change weapons, but its basically the same thing OVER AND OVER. For some people, that is all they need to enjoy Guild Wars. But for more.... lets say conditioned players, it takes some variation to your builds and play style to really get the full Guild Wars experience.

I personally only play professions where i can change things up. My favorite is the Mesmer, perhaps the most diverse profession in the game. You can choose from many different styles of builds and play. You can have a basic damage dealer, an interrupter, a shutdown memser, an e-denial mesmer, a degen mesmer, a support mesmer, or even farming and soloing mesmers. I also enjoy playing Necromancers, who have basically the same variety, except for interruption and e-denial.

Dervishes are often a favorite of mine because they are diversified. They have different attributes that make them unique. Of course, you could say that a monk is not unique, but what other game has Protection skills? Aren't most games based on just healing? You may also say that a ranger is not unique, but what about thier pets? Theyr Exepertise skills, along with their Preparations and Wilderness Survival skills. All of Guild Wars' professions are very unique except for that of the Warrior. EVERY MMO that i have heard of has a warrior type class, take WoW for example. Of course, people are going to criticise me for saying that Wars dont do anything versatile and unique. They will say things like, but what about shouts, tactics, and strength skills? Wars can farm, solo, and tank! Why are you criticising wars when they can do all of that??? I am doing this because that is ALL they do.... I dont play a warrior. Never have, never will. Of course, Guild Wars would be a very unbalanced game without Warriors, but I am not saying that they shouldnt be around. I love the fact that there is someone taking the heat while i can stay in the backlines and hex and annoy the hell out of people. If people want to play Warriors, by all means do so, but just know that they ARE a VERY boring profession.

-Dean

I have no idea what you're talking about. Warriors require an absolutely ENORMOUS amount of skill on the player's part (unless you're a noob who copy-pastes template codes off the wiki). The attractive thing about Warriors is that they offer a nearly unmatched variety of styles for you to play. It is certainly not all hack and slash, hack and slash. For some people, that is all they need to enjoy Guild Wars. But for more... let's say conditioned players, some variation to builds and playing styles are needed to truly get the full Guild Wars experience. Changing weapons is just the most basic of the options.

I personally play almost all professions, realizing the different experiences offered by each. My favorite is the Warrior, perhaps the most diverse, powerful, and simply kick-arse profession in the game. One can choose among many different styles of build and play. For example, one can have an insanely high DPS machine, an aggro-controller/backline-watcher who keeps friendly squishies safe from harm while punishing the enemy melees, a knockdown hammer master who keeps enemies near-permanently on their butts, a high-duration dazer, a numerous-condition inflicting warrior, a party-supporting shouting warrior, or even farming, running, and soloing warriors. It is even possible to combine multiple roles into a single build with enough thought and ingenuity.

Warriors are such a favourite of mine because they are so diversified. They have different attributes that make them unique. Of course, you could say that a monk is not unique, but what other game has Protection skills? Aren't most games based on just healing? You may also say that a ranger is not unique, but what about their pets, the Exepertise line, and preparations? All of Guild Wars' professions are very unique, including the Warrior. EVERY MMO that i have heard of has a melee type class, a healing type class, an offensive spellcasting class, and so on; but Guild Wars redefines them in novel ways. Of course, people are going to criticise me for saying that Warriors are versatile and unique. They will say things like "The warrior's only role is tanking! Why are you saying warriors can deal damage and other things???" I am doing this because warriors can play so MANY different roles. I play a warrior. First character made, and last character to be deleted if ever I delete my characters. Of course, Guild Wars would be a very unbalanced game without Warriors, but I am not saying that they shouldn't be around. I love the fact that I'm keeping the hostile sharp/blunt objects off my backline's squishy bodies while I'm mowing down the red dots on my radar at the same time. I encourage everybody to try playing a Warrior the way Warriors are meant to be played, to discover that they are the very ANTITHESIS of a boring profession!

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