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FlipFatality · Jan 04, 2009, 05:12 AM // 05:12

yes im new , plan on getting the game , and i have looked into warriors .
i would like to create a "Warrior / Elementalist" and therefore i would like a
build that would very useful in PVE , and another build for PVP / GVG
this would be very helpful , so im ready to play and research my character
as soon as i can when i get my game .
ANY FEEDBACK WILL BE HELPFUL . =D
thanks alot !!

Truegen · Jan 04, 2009, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Here's a few options for you champ (all courtesy of http://www.pvxwiki.com, which I recommend for all your future build needs):
PvE:
Warrior's Endurance Axe
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/any_PvE_WE_Axe

Triple Chop Axe
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/...e_Chop_Warrior

PvP:
Your basic Shock Axe
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/E_Shock_Axe

Warrior's Endurance Axe (modded a bit differently than PvE)
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/any_Endurance_Axe

Magehunter's Smash Hammer
http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/..._Smash_Warrior

Those are your basic cookie-cutter builds. The best thing you can do is see what your oponent is running and ask yourself "Self, what's the best warrior build to be used here...do I need knockdowns, deep wounds, anti-melee, anti-caster, etc." Some would tell you that an elementalist Conjure (lightning, water, fire...be sure to change your weapon's mod-hilt when using these spells) + Hundred Blades or Crippling Slash is great. It's all where you're playing, who you're playing, and (most importantly) how you develop your playing style (are you better at target-switching like mad as an axe, crippling and spreading damage and conditions like mad as a sword, or chaining knockdowns on non-protted targets like mad as a hammer?)

Also take into consideration what campaigns you have...this plays a huge factor in what builds you can run. If you're starting off the game, just be simple and be competent. Warriors have low energy and high armor...as a W/E use only axe, hammer, or sword skills and support ele skills ONLY. Nothing pisses off a group of players more than seeing their warrior in battle using flare, firestorm, or (even worse) meteor shower

FlipFatality · Jan 04, 2009, 06:10 AM // 06:10

Re :

Thanks alot !!!!
i'll really take a look into those builds , and into that site for future
builds . you're really helpful ,
but i got a question .... when you say
"Nothing pisses off a group of players more than seeing their warrior in battle using flare, firestorm, or (even worse) meteor shower."
are you saying that if i use those , i piss of my party ?? because you said
a group of players seeing THEIR warrior , so i assumed you meant
that in using skills such as those while im a W/E im pissing of my group ?
or did u mean ill piss of enemies ??

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 04, 2009, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlipFatality

"Nothing pisses off a group of players more than seeing their warrior in battle using flare, firestorm, or (even worse) meteor shower."

He/She was talking about how annoying it is to your party. The thing about GW is that Warriors are good at being Warriors and Elementalists are good at being Elementalists. Warriors fail at being Elementalists.

If you think thats obvious, then congratulations, you're smarter than half the Warrior population. Warriors are built with heavy armor and big weapons so they are adequatly prepared for melee. They do not have a large energy pool or high energy regeneration (unlike Elementalists) because it is not their job to be an Elementalist.

Pretending you're something your not doesn't work. Think of it this way: if you needed an electrician, would you hire an electrician or a software designer?

PS: Search before posting generic questions like 'whats a good build for W/E'.

FlipFatality · Jan 04, 2009, 07:23 AM // 07:23

ahhh , alright , thaaankkkkks .
i see his point now
and about the search , yes i did look , no W/E builds at all ,
what would you consider a cheap and easy secondary class for a Warrior then ?

andy antagonist72 · Jan 04, 2009, 07:38 AM // 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlipFatality

ahhh , alright , thaaankkkkks .
i see his point now
and about the search , yes i did look , no W/E builds at all ,
what would you consider a cheap and easy secondary class for a Warrior then ?

it all depends on what your going to use the war for.
PvP... farming.. or general PvE

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 04, 2009, 07:40 AM // 07:40

There are plenty of Warrior builds (including W/E ones) in the sticky. It's called 'Warriors in PvE - The how-to guide'.

Btw, when you take a secondary, the point isn't to pretend to be that profession, as I previously explained. The point is to pick up one or two key skills that will help your primary. One of the best secondary skills for a PvE Warrior is [[Conjure Flame]. You'll always be swinging a weapon, so this is bonus damage on each hit. Thats what your looking for.

FlipFatality · Jan 04, 2009, 07:42 AM // 07:42

well for PVP im looking for a nice Tanker who can be exposed to heavy amounts
of dmg , but still being able to put forth a big deal of dmg .
something like that .
for PVE something that can keep monsters away from the party and only attack me.
and i can still be alive

Bobulation · Jan 04, 2009, 08:31 AM // 08:31

Warriors =/= tanks tbh, don't get that idea... warriors have extremely high dps, and they make things kersplode................

And don't go W/Mo, whatever you do

Icy The Mage · Jan 04, 2009, 10:04 AM // 10:04

The best Warrior skill is [Healing Breeze]. Either that or [Healing Hands]. They're pretty close tbh.

farmerfez · Jan 04, 2009, 04:29 PM // 16:29

dont forget mending either 0o

_Nihilist_ · Jan 06, 2009, 04:49 AM // 04:49

@ IcyFiftyFive and farmerfez: Guys, come on...

He asked about W/E, then about other possible secondaries and you had to immediately +1 with comments about skills Warriors should never use...

@ FlipFatality:

Like Marty Silverblade said, check the Sticky post for lots of great info. Warriors are first and foremost Warriors. Hell, Warriors are Warriors, period. Your secondary profession should help enhance what you do as a Warrior, not make you into a hybrid Warrior / whatever.

A quick review of some info you will find in the Sticky, though:

Warrior/Elementalist: [Conjure Flame] [Conjure Frost] [Conjure Lightning] for bonus damage on your attacks
[Shock] for unconditional Knockdown (just watch the Exhaustion)

Warrior/Necromancer: [Plague Touch] for removing Conditions like Blind and Weakness from yourself

Warrior/Ritualist: [Death Pact Signet] for a reusable (hard) resurrection skill

Warrior/Monk: [Mending Touch] for removing Conditions like Blind and Weakness from yourself

These are things that either a Warrior cannot do on their own (Condition removal / reuseable resurrect skill) that it is good to have or things that enhance what a Warrior does well already, like dealing damage (Conjure Elements for even MORE damage)

FlipFatality · Jan 06, 2009, 05:24 AM // 05:24

Thank you Tyrael ,
that was one of the more helpful comments .
i shall look deeper into the W/E skills , and possible the W/N skills as well .
this game seems really interesting , and i love how you can add a secondary
profession . thaaanks alot for your help ,
see you in the game xD

_Nihilist_ · Jan 06, 2009, 09:36 PM // 21:36

I just posted some of the information that Marty Silverblade wrote for the Sticky. Thank him, and read that Sticky!

Napalm Flame · Jan 06, 2009, 10:12 PM // 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade

There are plenty of Warrior builds (including W/E ones) in the sticky. It's called 'Warriors in PvE - The how-to guide'.

Btw, when you take a secondary, the point isn't to pretend to be that profession, as I previously explained. The point is to pick up one or two key skills that will help your primary. One of the best secondary skills for a PvE Warrior is [[Conjure Flame]. You'll always be swinging a weapon, so this is bonus damage on each hit. Thats what your looking for.

Negative, frost is better because of what people are running, and the shields that are taken. Flame remains the worst conjure. I'll explain why. Fire magic is the most common damage elementalist build. Air magic is used in spike builds a lot. These make those two shields the highest priority shields to run. There is only one reason to take a cold shield- golemspike/lichspike. If they don't see a swarm of minions, they're not going to immediately slap that shield on.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jan 06, 2009, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Notice the 'PvE' bit before 'Warrior'?

Flame was just generic. It really doesn't matter what you've got, and I've never seen anything shield swap or change it's skillset depending on what my team has before.

Spike Stritter · Jan 07, 2009, 12:02 AM // 00:02

Dont forget if using Conjure Flame use a weapon that has a fire mod attached to it (Fiery Longsword of Fortitude)
Conjure Frost use a weapon that has a cold mod attached to it ( Icy Longsword Of Fortitude)
Conjure Lightening use a weapon that has a lightening mod attached to it ( Shocking Longsword of Fortiude)

Just to further expand your understanding the "Longsword of Fortitude" has nothing to do with what elemental damage it does i just used it as a common example. The things that really matter are the Fiery, Icy, and Shocking.
These 3 mods can be bought from another gamer or found on another weapon(but we wont get into that youll figure that part out on your own when u get there

) and when these mods are obtained all u have to do is a 3 little clicks of the mouse and congrats that elemental mod is now attached to your weapon.

Still confused (I can be bad at explaining things)? Here you go http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Weapon_upgrade

And yes I know he probably wont need thsi info if he doesnt even have the game yet but its still a good thing to keep in mind in order to avoid a common noob mistake of not equipping a weapon with a certain elemental damage attached to it.

Hope you enjoy GW

FlipFatality · Jan 07, 2009, 12:27 AM // 00:27

RE TO SPIKE :

Thaaank you spike for the information on the weapons .
i still haven't gotten the game , but im sure ill be getting it this month .
this information is pretty helpful because ill jump right into the game and know what ill
have to get or save up for .
thaaaank you very much .
see you in the game =D