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Lishy · Jul 12, 2010, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Hey guys.
I'm trying to make a pet master gimmick build, though I'm running into problems with it:
http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Pv...Submit +Query
Attrs with runes:
9 (+1+2) sword
9 (+2) tactics
3 str
12 beast
*zealous sword

Though I'm able to kill the Master of Damage in 8 seconds, in actual practice I'm having a lot of problems.
The idea is to tank with Soldier's Defense and NRA as your shout while your pet deals heavy damage. Though energy management and execution is incredibly difficult because my enchantment becomes stripped, and enemies drop too fast before I even get a chance to use my e-management skill.

This is happening even in HM and I can't figure out a practical use for a pet. Now, under normal circumstances a build like this would be unacceptable, but for h/h play I kind of wanted to see the pets I've worked so hard to tame and appreciate them. So could I perhaps have help making a pet gimmick for war? A way to better increase efficiency in actual PvE and not just master of damage?

**Marty Silverblade** · Jul 12, 2010, 12:33 AM // 00:33

First off, don't waste time trying to tank. Get rid of the first two skills. Pump Swordsmanship up.

Secondly, Sever is useless without Gash. You've got ER for the DW so Gash is redundant, and you've got Sever for SS.

Thirdly, the problem is that you're trying to build around a concept that is simply inferior. Stop focusing on the pet and focus on the Warrior part more. Perhaps something like this:

Sever Artery
Gash
Sun and Moon Slash
DSlash
<Pet Attack>/Scavenger's Strike/FGJ
<Pet Attack>
Never Rampage Alone
Comfort Animal

Another option could be dropping Sever and Gash for an adrenaline skill (SY, perhaps) and FGJ.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jul 12, 2010, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Best pet war build I've played here

Uses NRA+Battle Rage to have constant IAS+IMS and double adrenaline for attack/SY spam. When I run it I drop BM to 6 and use a major Strength rune so I can still use Sentinel's Insignia :P

Bobby2 · Jul 12, 2010, 03:24 AM // 03:24

Strength 8+1
Hammer Mastery 12+1+1
Beast Mastery 10
camp: Zealous Hammer

Staggering Blow
Auspicious Blow
Whirlwind Attack (PvE)
Never Rampage Alone (PvE)
Run As One
Enraged Lunge (Elite)
For Great Justice!
Melandru's Assault

It's not uber effective, but pretty damn funny.

Giro · Jul 12, 2010, 05:43 AM // 05:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lishy

The idea is to tank with Soldier's Defense and NRA as your shout

Correct me if I'm wrong, but NRA is a skill, not a shout.

Lishy · Jul 12, 2010, 06:34 AM // 06:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giro

Correct me if I'm wrong, but NRA is a skill, not a shout.

That makes me an idiot then

cmcookie · Jul 13, 2010, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby2

Strength 8+1
Hammer Mastery 12+1+1
Beast Mastery 10
camp: Zealous Hammer

Staggering Blow
Auspicious Blow
Whirlwind Attack (PvE)
Never Rampage Alone (PvE)
Run As One
Enraged Lunge (Elite)
For Great Justice!
Melandru's Assault

It's not uber effective, but pretty damn funny.

I'm not sure that will work...no skill such as Comfort Animal or Charm Animal to bring you pet along.

Bobby2 · Jul 13, 2010, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmcookie

I'm not sure that will work...no skill such as Comfort Animal or Charm Animal to bring you pet along.

I already thought it was off xD No Run as One

NerfHerder · Jul 14, 2010, 11:15 AM // 11:15

I like to use this. Just for fun.

Sou1Co11ector · Jul 17, 2010, 11:50 AM // 11:50

Yeah Battle Rage is a great elite as a substitute for energy skills, make sure to load up on adrenaline based attacks as it ends where using non-adrenal skills.

You could always change your attributes a bit and add Warrior's Endurance for energy management. You gain 3 energy every time you hit with an attack.

Beomagi · Jul 19, 2010, 04:09 PM // 16:09

When I go W/Ra with pet it's usually with WE.
NRA + WE (Buffs)
great dwarf weapon(awesome pet buff)
Power/Protectors/Counterattack/Dismember/barbarous slice/gash/headbutt/whirlwind/sun and moon(warrior attacks)
predator's pounce/Scavenger's strike/brutal strike(pet attacks)
run as one/call of protection/asuran scan/Otyugh's(optional buffs)
companionship/lions comfort/antidote sig(optional heal)
Comfort animal (necessary)

If going Battle rage, then
NRA + Battlerage (buffs)
enraging charge (buff + faster run - useful to start BR)
whirlwind/sun and moon/cyclone (more attacks to drive up effectiveness of BR)
barbarous/gash/scavenger strike
Headbutt/lowblow/steelfang slash
Standing slash/final trust/galrath (optional high damage attacks)

Now the problem with BR is a pet attack will cancel it.
So you can
1 - buff the pet to do useful damage prior to starting BR
2 - waste 2 skills for a non strippable IAS and have a pet which can black you out.

Feral aggression will help - but you're wasting the pet ias as you're already using never rampage alone - and there's no way you're going to sustain both.

You MIGHT be able to maintain great dwarf weapon on your pet, using scavenger's strike for energy, but it's still clumsy, as you'll have to restart BR after each application.

Ebon battle standard of honor is another possibility. As both you and the pet will be attacking faster, you can really take advantage of this.
CON - does not move, 20sec recharge, energy management.

An interesting idea with the W/Ra using battle rage is using symbolic strike, since your signets can actually be pretty useful. Antidote signet, signet of strength, poison tip signet with symbolic strike.