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OMFM · Sep 14, 2008, 03:41 PM // 15:41

Energetic Was Lee Sa

Item Spell. Hold Lee Sa's ashes for 5...13...15 seconds. While you hold her ashes, you gain +2 Energy regeneration. When you drop her ashes, you gain +1...8...10 Energy.

or

Mighty Was Vorizun

Item Spell. Hold Vorizun's ashes for up to 15...51...60 seconds. While you hold his ashes, you gain +15 armor and +30 maximum Energy.

I have been using Energetic was lee Sa but in partys they all say that Vorizun is better for energy management. So which one is better?

theonetheonlybruce · Sep 14, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47

mighty is better because last longer and it has that +15 armor also u dont need as many points to maintain vorizun as u do lee

dilan155 · Sep 14, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21

lee sa is good for the e-management, but not the best kind there is

Zidane Ortef · Sep 14, 2008, 04:35 PM // 16:35

or just forget the item spell all together is use [Offering of Spirit] but if you like items this is another good one to help with e-management [Attuned Was Songkai]

Sun Fired Blank · Sep 14, 2008, 05:01 PM // 17:01

They're wrong. They're both crap, but Energetic Was Lee Sa is "e-management," as people understand it. Mighty Was Vorizon simply gives you a single burst of +30 energy to use; once you use it, you never get it back until you let your energy recharge, and if you drop the ashes after you've used all your energy, you're completely screwed.

moko · Sep 14, 2008, 05:05 PM // 17:05

out of these 2 you listed, Energetic Was Lee Sa.

it's actual energy "management". Mighty Was Vorizun is terrible -- it's a one time use, and once the energy is gone you'll be useless, and when the ashes drop you'll be in negative energy.

legacyofkain85 · Sep 14, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16

yes to bad +30 energy isnt energy management and +2 energy regen somehow is,not to mention that u can go in to negative energy with mighty was vorizun
,u could evne use glyph of lesser energy imo great energy management

subarucar · Sep 14, 2008, 07:50 PM // 19:50

Out of those two Lee Sa is the best - as it actualy is energy management, not just a +30 hit. Although if you want a decent energy management spell, [Offering Of Spirit] is what you should go for.

zelgadissan · Sep 14, 2008, 07:57 PM // 19:57

If you're able to end all your fights within 5-10 seconds, the +30 burst would be better since you can recharge the negative energy in between. For any other possible reason, take Lee Sa. AKA always Lee Sa.

In summation:
[Mighty Was Vorizun] < [Energetic Was Lee Sa] <<<<<<<<<<< [Offering of Spirit]

Nightow · Sep 14, 2008, 08:00 PM // 20:00

[Assassin's promise]

Hey, someone had to do it! D:
But, I also agree with this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by zelgadissan

In summation:
[Mighty Was Vorizun] < [Energetic Was Lee Sa] <<<<<<<<<<< [Offering of Spirit]

Rhamia Darigaz · Sep 14, 2008, 08:26 PM // 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by legacyofkain85

yes to bad +30 energy isnt energy management and +2 energy regen somehow is,not to mention that u can go in to negative energy with mighty was vorizun

do i detect a hint of fail?
+30 maximum energy isnt very useful. sure, you get a quick burst of energy, but once you use it you're back where you started. high max energy won't keep you from hitting zero energy and having to cast out of the bottom of your energy pool as it regens.
+2 energy regen is useful. when you cast something you get the energy back more quickly, allowing you to spend that energy again sooner without a net energy loss.
edit: was i wrong in detecting sarcasm when you said "and +2 energy regen somehow is"?
the "somehow" is what triggered the detector.

illidan009 · Sep 15, 2008, 01:17 AM // 01:17

Offering of Spirit is better...but if you don't like goign into FRIGGEN NF to find many of the Rit's best elites stick with lee...NF rit skill caps piss me off alot D:

Nightow · Sep 15, 2008, 02:16 AM // 02:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by illidan009

Offering of Spirit is better...but if you don't like goign into FRIGGEN NF to find many of the Rit's best elites stick with lee...NF rit skill caps piss me off alot D:

All I can say is then go cap VwK and learn how to run the 330 rit if you need the gold for a tome. =\

Zhang Zyria · Sep 15, 2008, 04:56 AM // 04:56

i use lee sa in my healing build, ashes + soothing memories is free heal, or close to it. the thing is not to use it when ur energy is low, use it when you have moderate energy to maintain that lvl of energy. you use it when u have 10 or so energy means ur stuck with 0 energy for a significant amount of time depending on how much energy ur staff or wand/offhand gives you

Hugh Manatee · Sep 15, 2008, 04:34 PM // 16:34

Mighty was Vorizun is like Energy Storage in a Can for rits. E-Storage lets eles cast their big booms with more of a reserve. It helps if you're trying to do communing like [Anguish], [Shadowsong], [shelter] or the other big energy spirits. When I used to Rit lord, before it got nerfed, It was useful to have a "high energy set" that gave me almost the same armor as a shield with 4 pips of regen. It went something like [Ritual lord][boon of creation][mighty was vorizun][bloodsong][shadowsong][pain][spirit siphon] and depending on the area [painful bond], a res, a speed boost or whatever. I'd use a high energy set so when or if I dropped the can I'd gain +12 from the offhand, and could cast it right away.

Haven't used this in a long time though...