Curse

dargon · Nov 21, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40

To high a cost for to short a life span on the spell

batou · Nov 22, 2005, 05:47 AM // 05:47

i was reading the 1st post about the shocking sniper and i have a question

how much damage would a lvl 10 kindle arrows compare with a lvl 10 conjure lightning

cause then i wouldnt have troll ungent or other winderness spells, if i went with shock sniper

Manfred · Nov 22, 2005, 08:41 PM // 20:41

judges insight overrides orders, as does kindle, that's why on real ranger spike teams they run under straight RTW.

Peewee · Nov 24, 2005, 01:34 PM // 13:34

i have had some fun with conjure builds in pvp, and just messing around with skills that require a certain condition. heres a couple of ideas i played around with:

ranger with flame bow/ kindle arrows +conjure flame +mark of rodgort,
arrows set pp on fire for however long mark stays arounf for. might want to take glyth of nrg or lesser nrg, as mark is 25nrg.

ranger with lightning bow/ ignite arrows/RtW + glimmering mark/thunder clap.
i had some gr8 fun really annoying warriors with this. they all ganged up on a caster, and suddenly they were blinded

thunder clap works well, but it leaves u completely drained of nrg.

ranger/nec with cold dmg bow and spinal shivers. much like the thuner clap one, but it leaves an elite open. it doesnt knoc the enemy down tho, which is a shame, but constant interupt, plus a RoF buff makes short work of eles.

ranger/nec with pin down + hunters shot + virulence. pin em down, make sure their running, hunter shot, and then hit em with Virulence. that can really knock warriors out of service for a little bit, and the degen can be added to by a mesmer or a necro on the team.

just a few ideas, which have proberbly been done b4, but i hope to spark some more imagination hehe

Guild Terror · Nov 27, 2005, 04:27 PM // 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by batou

i was reading the 1st post about the shocking sniper and i have a question

how much damage would a lvl 10 kindle arrows compare with a lvl 10 conjure lightning

cause then i wouldnt have troll ungent or other winderness spells, if i went with shock sniper

kindle does more dmg than conjure lightning now, im guessing it didnt when the post was made

Arrow-bow · Nov 27, 2005, 06:09 PM // 18:09

ok here is ranger/(anything) interupt build

atributes :

beatsmastery 4
expertise (high)
wildrennes survival(not high)
marksmanship(medium)

skills

iccendary arrows(e)
distartking shot
savage shot
tigers fury
pin down
whirlign defense
troll unuguement
res sig

bow:must be shortbow!

dargon · Nov 27, 2005, 07:37 PM // 19:37

at 4 beastmastery, tigers fury isn't helping you all that much and on it's own as a loan prep neither is incendiary arrows, for this build I'd drop tigers and throw in choking gas, that way while incend is recharging, you can use the gas and you don't need to use distracting or savage to interrupt casters spells.

Yamat · Nov 29, 2005, 01:42 AM // 01:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rajamic

Something involved in Kindle Arrows confuses the Conjure spells into thinking it is a fiery bow, even though it isn't. So Zealous + Kindle + Conjure Flame works, but Shocking + Kindle + Conjure Lightning doesn't.

I consider this a bug, but it works, they haven't changed it yet, and it is fairly well known.

Does ayone know if this is still the case?

Thanks!

K.Ichigo · Nov 29, 2005, 10:58 PM // 22:58

Kindle Arrows description SAYS it turns bow damage into fire.

imaginary friend · Nov 29, 2005, 11:14 PM // 23:14

my armor penetration build

marksmanship 12+3+1
expertise 9+1
wilderness survival 9+1

Bow: Sundering Horn Bow of Fortitude

skills
penetrating attack
poison arrow (E)
distracting shot
whirling defense
pin down
troll unguent
favorable winds
rez sig

my anti tank build

Marksmanship 12+3+1
expertise 9+1
wilderness survival 9+1

bow: poisoners horn bow of fortitude

skills
crippling shot (E)
apply poison
hunters shot
whirling defense
favorable winds
troll unguent
penetrating attack
rez sig

4runner · Nov 29, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28

heres my build

15marks
10 wilderness
13 expertise

1.poison (e)/crippling/barrage/
2.savage
3.kindle
4.hunters/distracting
5.fw/rtw
6.barbed(for my monk she never leaves myside)/dust
7.whirling/throw dirt/dodge
8.rez(for my monk)

Works pretty much everywhere, and does nice overall damage and to slow down warriors coming for my monk!! (i give u life)

BOW: zealous half moon of Fortitude
poisoners short bow of fortitude
gargash recurve bow
Zealous long bow of fortitude

with this set up hunters has hit targets for +85 damage very sick!!!

Adambomb · Nov 30, 2005, 11:35 AM // 11:35

For PvP spike I keep swapping from Punishing and Quickshot... which is best to use?

pkodyssey · Nov 30, 2005, 05:35 PM // 17:35

I have read and absorbed 19 pages of Ranger build information and a lot of extraneous information that doesn't even belong here. Please forgive me if I ask any redundant questions here. I primarily have been playing a Necromancer Minion Master. I just started a new Ranger and have not yet chosen a secondary. I have accumulated the following equipment for my character to have once he is post searing. I would like opinions, backed with examples of possible routes to take this character. I do plan on running through all the pre-searing quests and reach about lvl 8-10 before going through the searing.

My initial thoughts are to work up to the following R/Mo build to include:
Marksmanship 16
Healing 11
Expertise 9
Wilderness Survival 3
Kindle Arrow
Barrage
Rebirth
Vigorous Spirit
Live Vicariously
Essence Bond
Mending
Divine Boon
Armor to be --- 1st Ascalon Leather, then Druids at Amnoon Oasis, and finally Druids from Droknar’s

I will be using this as a PVE character.

Current status:
Lvl 3
BM: 1
Expertise: 3
Wilderness: 0
Marksmanship: 2

Current Pre-Searing Skills:
Orson of Healing
Power Shot
Bane Signet
Troll Unguent
Resurrection Signet

Equipment available Post-Searing
1. Gold - Ivory Bow of Enchanting: Piercing Dmg:15-26 (Req 8 Mark), Dmg +14^50%, Enchant last 17% longer
2. Gold – Icy Half Moon of Warding: Cold Dmg:15-28 (Req 13 Mark), Dmg +13% while in stance, Armor +7 vs Elemental attack
3. Gold – Fiery Longbow of Skeletonslaying: Dmg:11-19 (Req 6 Mark), Dmg +16% vs skeletons
4. Blue – Longbow of Fortitude: Piercing Dmg: 11-18 (req 3 Mark), Dmg +10% while in stance. Health +20

mr_boo · Nov 30, 2005, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkodyssey

I have read and absorbed 19 pages of Ranger build information and a lot of extraneous information that doesn't even belong here. Please forgive me if I ask any redundant questions here. I primarily have been playing a Necromancer Minion Master. I just started a new Ranger and have not yet chosen a secondary. I have accumulated the following equipment for my character to have once he is post searing. I would like opinions, backed with examples of possible routes to take this character. I do plan on running through all the pre-searing quests and reach about lvl 8-10 before going through the searing.

My initial thoughts are to work up to the following R/Mo build to include:
Marksmanship 16
Healing 11
Expertise 9
Wilderness Survival 3
Kindle Arrow
Barrage
Rebirth
Vigorous Spirit
Live Vicariously
Essence Bond
Mending
Divine Boon
Armor to be --- 1st Ascalon Leather, then Druids at Amnoon Oasis, and finally Druids from Droknar’s

I will be using this as a PVE character.

Current status:
Lvl 3
BM: 1
Expertise: 3
Wilderness: 0
Marksmanship: 2

Current Pre-Searing Skills:
Orson of Healing
Power Shot
Bane Signet
Troll Unguent
Resurrection Signet

Equipment available Post-Searing
1. Gold - Ivory Bow of Enchanting: Piercing Dmg:15-26 (Req 8 Mark), Dmg +14^50%, Enchant last 17% longer
2. Gold – Icy Half Moon of Warding: Cold Dmg:15-28 (Req 13 Mark), Dmg +13% while in stance, Armor +7 vs Elemental attack
3. Gold – Fiery Longbow of Skeletonslaying: Dmg:11-19 (Req 6 Mark), Dmg +16% vs skeletons
4. Blue – Longbow of Fortitude: Piercing Dmg: 11-18 (req 3 Mark), Dmg +10% while in stance. Health +20

To be honest pkodyssey, your dumping too many energy intensive skills onto your Ranger. Remember, the Ranger's Energy regen rate is not that of a caster, and to be able to maintain those enchants is simply not ideal at all. You need to tinker again with your build and ask yourself whether or not you'd be better off creating a Monk instead.

pkodyssey · Dec 01, 2005, 07:56 PM // 19:56

I have decided on the R/E. I am pre-searing at this point and using a Longbow of Fortitude
Dmg 7-10
Health +10
Damage +15%, (while Health above 50%)
Damage +20% (Customized)

Lvl 7
Expertise: 4
Marksmanship: 5
Wilderness Survival: 2
Beast Mastery: 1
Fire Magic: 1

Current selected skill on Bar:
1. Dual Shot
2. Power Shot
3. Ignite Arrows
4. Glyph of Lesser Energy
5. Fire Storm
6. Comfort Animal
7. Charm Animal
8. Resurrection Signet

Other available skills:
Auro of Restoration
Troll Unguent

I have been travelling with a dedicated healer so far and it has been working out well. He arrgos the monsters and I Firestorm them, then lay down fire with the longbow. I really don't plan on taking the pet out once I am through the searing unless there is a real good reason. I will be traveling with the dedicated healer, a tank, and an elementalist primary, not sure of secondary on her yet.

Using this new info; First what can I do to speed up rate of fire ealier on and how do I speed up energy and spell recharge times. ( I know about the glyph of lesser energy)

mightyzap · Dec 01, 2005, 08:47 PM // 20:47

isnt it just so sad there is nearly no beast mastery builds ?

heres mine for a 4 man UW/FoW (VERY succesfull)

R/Mo

monk attributes ALL 0
beastmastery: 15
expertise: 7
wilderness: 9
marksmanship: 9

skills equiped:

1: res (can be sig or /Mo res skills)
2: vital blessing
3: kindle arrows (work better as ignite arrows)
4: barrage
5: savage shot (less energy and faster recharge as disrupting shot)
6: whirling defense (for those who think "its just a ranger")
7: edge of extinction
8: symbiosis

and the key for success: protection monk

pkodyssey · Dec 02, 2005, 01:56 PM // 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrow-bow

ok here is ranger/(anything) interupt build

atributes :

beatsmastery 4
expertise (high)
wildrennes survival(not high)
marksmanship(medium)

skills

iccendary arrows(e)
distartking shot
savage shot
tigers fury
pin down
whirlign defense
troll unuguement
res sig

bow:must be shortbow!

What would you change to use longbow and more interrupting/degenerating attacks?

pkodyssey · Dec 02, 2005, 01:58 PM // 13:58

Settled on Interrupting/Degenerating Ranger. I like the idea of long range damage and interrupts. How does energy managment come into play with these type of skills?

It seems that Wilderness Survival would best support conditions and interrupts?

I know Expertise is important, but do I need to pour attribute points into Marksmanship too.

I don't want to spead the points to thin early on and decress effectiveness later on in a specialized skill. How would you allocate points here.

Just for review
Currently:
Lvl 7
Expertise: 4
Marksmanship: 5
Wilderness Survival: 2
Beast Mastery: 1
Fire Magic: 1

I only have 2 missions left pre-searing;
- Across the Wall
- Test of Marksmanship (Skills: Point Blank Shot and Read the Wind)

Current selected skill on Bar:
1. Dual Shot
2. Power Shot
3. Ignite Arrows
4. Glyph of Lesser Energy
5. Fire Storm
6. Comfort Animal
7. Charm Animal
8. Resurrection Signet

Other available skills:
Auro of Restoration
Troll Unguent

Thanks for the ongoing input!

Mjollnir of Eitri · Dec 03, 2005, 02:16 AM // 02:16

I was all but cursed out for using the following trap build in an IWAY today (Not to mention, I had just used to get to the Hall of Heroes, this afternoon. And we could have won had we not lost 2 men):

R/Me
WS 16
Expertise 13
Inspiration 3

446 Health, 46 Energy

Barbed Trap
Spike Trap (Elite)
Dust Trap
Whirling Defense
Resurrection Signet
Energy Tap
Troll Unguent
Quickening Zephyr- (I find other trappers love this, but the necros complain)

Was my group overreacting, or do I need to make some serious changes to my trapper build?

Thanks

Manfred · Dec 03, 2005, 04:14 AM // 04:14

yeah, i would personally take off the QZ, since it's a pain in the butt for teammates. Loking good other than that.. oh wait, you're vulnerable to interrupt. The basic gimmick I enjoy is to use oath shot to keep whirling defence up constantly, and recharge traps more quickly. try using the search button (upper right corner) for the 3 classic trap builds.