Curse

Dean Harper · Jun 06, 2008, 11:54 PM // 23:54

Id prefer something that is not BHA or BA w/apply poison please. Maybe something with Poison Arrow or Poison Tip Signet. (I have all three campaigns and EotN). Thanks!

Keekles · Jun 06, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

[poison arrow][distracting shot][savage shot][barbed arrows][toxicity][mending touch][troll unguent][resurrection signet]

maybe? I think I ran that for a while when NF just came out.

Koricen · Jun 07, 2008, 12:03 AM // 00:03

Keekles posted a solid build, and you said you would prefer a build that doesn't use BA, but I would still suggest [Burning Arrow]+[Barbed Arrows]+[Poison Tip Signet]. It's what my friend runs and he finds it both fun and effective.

Bobby2 · Jun 07, 2008, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Barrage/Volley w/ AP? Anything with [skill]epidemic[/skill]?

Marverick · Jun 07, 2008, 12:11 AM // 00:11

[Apply Poison] is THE best way to inflict poison. Why would you not want to use it?

Koricen · Jun 07, 2008, 12:17 AM // 00:17

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

Barrage/Volley w/ AP? Anything with [skill]epidemic[/skill]?

[Barrage] and [Volley] would remove [Apply Poison].

Trvth Jvstice · Jun 07, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

I know you asked for poison - It seems you want to do good degen- The Degen build I used had [[poison tip signet], [[burning arrow], and [[screaming shot]. Put those 3 conditions on an enemy and use [[epidemic].

the savage nornbear · Jun 07, 2008, 12:28 AM // 00:28

[apply poison] [cyclone axe]<---since you don't want to use the two best ranger elites.

Icy The Mage · Jun 07, 2008, 12:54 AM // 00:54

[Fevered Dreams] + [Poison Tip Signet] + [Savage Shot] or [Distracting Shot]

Yea... I suck as a ranger.

Rhamia Darigaz · Jun 07, 2008, 01:16 AM // 01:16

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Originally Posted by the savage nornbear

[apply poison] [cyclone axe]<---since you don't want to use the two best ranger elites.

i dont believe cripshot was mentioned anywhere in the thread. :P he said he didnt wanna use apply poison. i dont see why tho, its amazing at, well, applying poison. if i wanted to spread poison id use a standard cripshot bar.

the savage nornbear · Jun 07, 2008, 01:27 AM // 01:27

I think he just means [apply poison] with [burning arrow] . And touche on the [crippling shot], I almost never use it in PvE, and that is were my mind generally is.

Masseur · Jun 07, 2008, 02:46 AM // 02:46

[Poison Arrow][Distracting Shot][Troll Unguent][Savage Shot][Choking Gas][Screaming Shot][Toxicity][Resurrection Chant]

I use this build (Toxicity replaced with Dryder's Defense most of the time) when I really want to poison, but Poison Arrow is far superior to any of the non-elite poison skills, especially apply poison since it takes too long to activate it. With this build I can degen AND interrupt.

Alex the Great · Jun 07, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Masseur

Poison Arrow is far superior to any of the non-elite poison skills, especially apply poison since it takes too long to activate it.

LIES! poison arrow is linked to wildy survival, and does no +damage. Apply poison is also linked to wilderness survival, but it takes advantage of experteise, and allows you to spread poison on attack very quickly, along with another elite condition skill. pre-cast it before the battle.

poison arrow is solid, but BA and BHA are out of it's league.

the savage nornbear · Jun 07, 2008, 03:20 AM // 03:20

[[Apply poison] is so far ahead of[[poison arrow] its not even funny. You would definatly be crippling yourself using it. Its not gonna any better to apply poison than to use [[apply poison].

The 24 seconds of [[apply poison] allows for about 24 shots, costing 15 energy. Those same 24 shots using [[poison arrow] would cost somewhere around 125. (I hate math) <------note:expertise was not taken into effect, but the ratio is the same.

also [[choking gas] is terrabad.

kev read · Jun 07, 2008, 04:31 AM // 04:31

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Originally Posted by the savage nornbear

The 24 seconds of [[apply poison] allows for about 24 shots, costing 15 energy. Those same 24 shots using [[poison arrow] would cost somewhere around 125. (I hate math) <------note:expertise was not taken into effect, but the ratio is the same.

Nope...

Rangers shoot once every TWO seconds... not ONE (that would be awesome though)

so 12 shots for 15e vs. 12 shots for 60e...

the savage nornbear · Jun 07, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

thanks for correcting me, i never got all the actual attack times down, but the point remains valid.

MasterSasori · Jun 07, 2008, 06:21 PM // 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Harper

Id prefer something that is not BHA or BA w/apply poison please. Maybe something with Poison Arrow or Poison Tip Signet. (I have all three campaigns and EotN). Thanks!

[magebane shot] is awesome.

[poison arrow] = failure. You can try running this with [barbed arrows] for 7 degen but this is pointless especially since BA and apply does 11 degen.

You can also try the R/P battle spear, R/W thumper, or R/D escape scythe spammer as a departure from the bow department side of ranger.

poasiods · Jun 08, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

If you feel like seeing some numbers,
[sloth hunter's shot][zojun's shot][point blank shot][triple shot][glass arrows][conjure frost][troll unguent][resurrection signet]

I would use BHA, still...

Edit: Oops, miss the 'poison' in the title somehow. Sorry.

Cebe · Jun 09, 2008, 08:04 AM // 08:04

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Originally Posted by Koricen

Keekles posted a solid build, and you said you would prefer a build that doesn't use BA, but I would still suggest [Burning Arrow]+[Barbed Arrows]+[Poison Tip Signet]. It's what my friend runs and he finds it both fun and effective.

1. Keekles posted a build with Poison Arrow which ia lacking when compared to other elites.
2. Burning + Bleeding + Poison = 14 pips of health degeneration. Given health degen is capped at 10, you're wasting a slot right there. Personally I'd get rid of [[Barbed Arrows] in favour of something more useful like [[Read the Wind] or [[Expert Focus].

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marverick

[Apply Poison] is THE best way to inflict poison. Why would you not want to use it?

Right there. Apply Poison instantly makes a Ranger build better.

Orange Milk · Jun 09, 2008, 03:03 PM // 15:03

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2. Burning + Bleeding + Poison = 14 pips of health degeneration. Given health degen is capped at 10, you're wasting a slot right there.

The 14 pips is to counter mending, DUH!

Poison Arrow is like Incindeary Arrows, Man those two skills look good, and SHOULD be good, but there are just flat out, hands down better options.

I look at em and say "Man, If I could just......." but I can't, so I don't.