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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:18 PM // 20:18   #1
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Default How to be Pro PvE Ranger?

Hey guys

After having played mostly pvp over the last few months i finally came back to pve and decided to make a ranger. I know how to play them in pvp but no idea in pve

My Current Build is
[build prof=R/Mo pro=3 exp=12 wil=9 mar=9][Broad Head Arrow][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot][Apply Poison][Natural Stride][No Skill][No Skill][No Skill][/build]

As you might notice i am missing 3 skill and i really have no idea what to fill them. Anyone got any suggestions?
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:21 PM // 20:21   #2
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slap in [skill]epidemic[/skill] and you have a winner
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31   #3
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[skill]favorable winds[/skill] or [skill]read the wind[/skill] so that you have less chance to miss with broad head arrow because of that skills high arc.
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:31 PM // 20:31   #4
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BHA arc is unaffected by any of those.
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:33 PM // 20:33   #5
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Rangers have the best stances in GW without question - therefore you should look into [Dwarven Stability]. I also use either [Serpent's Quickness] or [Lightning Reflexes] as my stance since hexes and enchantments (damn monks) are fairly common in PvE, but there's certainly nothing wrong with Natty either. I love Lightning so much because it's under Expertise.

[Volley] is also a very solid choice with your BHA if you use [Epidemic] as suggested, just remember that it'll pull your poison off. Then I'd slap in a res signet and be on my merry way.

Or just wait for Tyla to tell you how to do it
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:37 PM // 20:37   #6
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[barrage][distracting shot][savage shot][dodge this][i am the strongest][splinter weapon][lightning reflexes][resurrection signet]

den u be'z pro pve llo
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:45 PM // 20:45   #7
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BHA arc is unaffected by any of those.
i admit I don't play my ranger much, but since when did those stop effecting bha?
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:46 PM // 20:46   #8
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What I usually run:

[build prof=R/ exp=11+1 wil=10 mar=11+1+3][Broad Head Arrow][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot][Read The Wind][Pin Down][Natural Stride]["Finish Him!"][Sunspear Rebirth Signet][/build]

My equipment and attributes probably aren't optimal, but I haven't bothered to change those.

I don't experience much difference in BHA's curve when FW or RtW is in effect, so I don't think it matters. I have Pin Down instead for slowing targets before I fire. "Finish Him!" is a good finisher or a good way to speed up killing bosses. I don't get much use out of my res, so I may consider changing that to something else in the future.
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 08:52 PM // 20:52   #9
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Shayne - swap Pin Down with You Move like a Dwarf for a nice 2,5 seconds to ensure BHA hits. That's what I do.

[Broad Head Arrow][Distracting Shot][Savage Shot][Read the Wind][You Move Like a Dwarf][Natural Stride][Epidemic][Sunspear Rebirth Signet]

And you win pve.
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 09:02 PM // 21:02   #10
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Or just wait for Tyla to tell you how to do it
I know nothing!

Okay, well...

If you've had experience interrupting in PvE before, or keep your eye out while playing anything, you'll notice that most monsters use most skills in the same places. Some even try and get it up straight away, e.g Throw Dirt. The AI uses that skill extremely predictably. You see them rushing up, when they're quite close fire off a Savage Shot and no blind conditions are even existent in the party.

As for builds, I usually run with the following:

[broad head arrow][distracting shot][savage shot][volley][sloth hunter's shot][no skill][no skill][resurrection signet]
Same old same old in terms of attribution.

For the optionals, PvE-only skills, Mending Touch can be used on the party aswell as you and considering how bad the AI of melee is you'll probably be rolling with casters, so you can run to them and remove conditions from there. Stances such as [[lightning reflexes], and others in the Expertise line although I prefer that one because of the integrated IAS. I generally have Volley and Sloth's on the same bar because I always have a copy of Splinter Weapon in my group, so I get the masive AoE damage of it still. Sloth's is for decent one target damage.

As for no Epidemic, I just really can't be bothered with it any more.
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 09:11 PM // 21:11   #11
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IMHO read the wind is not as good as apply poison, cause all you have to do is just move closer "short bow ftw" and you will not need it.

[build=OgMTcTcm5xV+YUNzGBQe9X7bAA]

but if you want to be a pro all you really need is [distracting shot]
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 09:44 PM // 21:44   #12
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^
Speccing 8 just for a self heal, and a sub-par one in terms of team play is bad. So is no D-Shot.

Troll Unguent should remain on your Rangers bar in terms of splitting.
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01   #13
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Thanks everyone for their replies, " You move like a dwarf" if now gone on my bar so far :P

@Tyla why are you no using a prep?
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05   #14
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@Tyla why are you no using a prep?
[[Volley] removes preps.

And most preps don't really do a lot in PvE, tbh.
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Old Jul 08, 2008, 10:05 PM // 22:05   #15
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Volley, like Barrage removes preperations on use.

It's a good tradeoff seeing as I get loads of splash out of it via Splinter Weapon.
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Old Jul 09, 2008, 12:45 AM // 00:45   #16
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[Broad Head Arrow][Epidemic][Volley][Distracting Shot]

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Old Jul 09, 2008, 02:28 AM // 02:28   #17
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For PvE, I think the touch ranger is great. Flame away!
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Old Jul 09, 2008, 02:38 AM // 02:38   #18
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[build=OgMTcVMmZaV8ucxo4Ym03A7QmA] this is my suggestion switch the spirit for anything really thats what i like over splinter barrage
Wow, well [I Am The Strongest] and [Barrage] is a waste of a PVe skill (imo) because the +damage is gone for 20 seconds after the first barrage. If you got nothing to place there, then fine, but I always have something better. (Suggesting [Dodge This] because into a mob it should charge every hit.)

Secondly, why oh why do you have [Great Dwarf Weapon]. You dont have a pet, you cant use it on yourself, and if you want to put it on the melee, casters can better afford to use it.

Finally 8 Attribute points for a long cast, generally only average self heal? As tyla said, bit of a waste. Drop that and those atts for something better. No self heal works well in a good team build because then you can spec for damage.
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Old Jul 09, 2008, 02:44 AM // 02:44   #19
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How to be Pro PvE Ranger?
[splinter weapon][barrage] and repeat..
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Old Jul 09, 2008, 06:48 AM // 06:48   #20
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it really depends what type of ranger you want to be , and what you want to do with it

if you want to do DoA , FoW , UW and other high end areas go [ursan]
if you want to cause large scale damage with a bow go [splinter weapon] and [barrage]
if you like to cause degen go [burning arrow] ..

all about what type of ranger you want to be . i can post some builds later , just on wrong computer atm btw
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