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Old Jul 31, 2006, 12:04 PM // 12:04   #1
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Default Paragon without spear

Alright. I think we can all agree spear mastery and spears are awesomeness as already proven by R/P premade.

However I wanted to concetrate on being support, and I was unable to make a paragon that was effective and didn't use a weapon. Closest I came to was making a healer out of motivation attribute. As far as I can tell: Spear>Motivation>Leadership>Command.

Main problem is that while you have skills that can support nearly any build in GW you are still limited by 8 slots. And with that limitation, the versatility of this class changes into specialisation builds, because outside healing most skills do very small and specific things. Additionally a lot of chants trigger on attack skills or on spells only, making them affect only the attacker/caster portion of the team.

So help me out here. Does anyone have a good support paragon build that doesn;'t use a weapon?
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54   #2
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I don't think that was ever ANet's intention. Many of the chants require adrenaline which means you'll be fighting.

They also gave Paragon armor that is 80 AL base (same as a warrior) so it seems pretty likely they intended them to be fighting up front like a warrior in many respects.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 02:23 PM // 14:23   #3
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well, if you really want to be away from the fight and casting more, you could ditch the shield for a focus item, for extra energy.
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 02:32 PM // 14:32   #4
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lag... delete please
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Old Jul 31, 2006, 03:04 PM // 15:04   #5
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I think many of the chants need to be combined... and there were so many chants focused on +Energy, when a Paragon has almost no need for energy gain.

I had the most success with a variation of the P/W pre-made. Threw Mending Refrain on everyone while alternating between the two healing chants and "Watch Yourself!". It'd have been nice if the healing chant had activated on skill, however, and not just spell. Or Spell or Attack Skill.
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Old Aug 01, 2006, 12:21 AM // 00:21   #6
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P/Rit or Rit/P depending on where you want energy manegement to come from.

Leadership>Command>Restoration seemed to work fairly well for me, barely used my spear
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Old Sep 25, 2006, 03:35 AM // 03:35   #7
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wel...i guess if you really didnt want to do any damage..you could do a paragon Monk combo and just concentrate on shouts, chants and healing
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Old Sep 25, 2006, 04:39 AM // 04:39   #8
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Hmm, with the limited regen, healing might not be such a great idea. However because they do have that extra armour, a pur buffer could remain in melee without too many problems, able to buff with both paragon shouts, and warrior ones.
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Old Sep 25, 2006, 12:10 PM // 12:10   #9
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I'm not sure about a P/mo or P/rit but they do have good support abilities...

ENDURING HARMONY
For 10...30 seconds, Chants and Shouts last 50 seconds longer on target ally.

INCOMING {E}
For 1...4 seconds, all party members within earshot take 50% less damage.

This was all I have really looked at as far as a support for these guys.....Some of the echo's are really nice, well in PvE anyway....But I think it was meant for more of a support role then a frontline keep them in the middle of the group and buff the others.
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Old Sep 25, 2006, 06:20 PM // 18:20   #10
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It'd have been nice if the healing chant had activated on skill, however, and not just spell. Or Spell or Attack Skill.
I believe that would be the elite skill Song of Restoration.
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Old Sep 26, 2006, 01:30 AM // 01:30   #11
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Originally Posted by LOBAL 2
I'm not sure about a P/mo or P/rit but they do have good support abilities...

ENDURING HARMONY
For 10...30 seconds, Chants and Shouts last 50 seconds longer on target ally.

INCOMING {E}
For 1...4 seconds, all party members within earshot take 50% less damage.

This was all I have really looked at as far as a support for these guys.....Some of the echo's are really nice, well in PvE anyway....But I think it was meant for more of a support role then a frontline keep them in the middle of the group and buff the others.
Its a typo. 50% longer.
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