Curse

Cebe · Jan 31, 2007, 09:11 AM // 09:11

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Originally Posted by Senator Tom

un-nerfed paragons = hoh holding

O Goodie.

Yet another reason why PvP is a bad thing.

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Originally Posted by chicks boy

Yes Drop the paragon's spear. I mean, Melee paragons? What do they do? lol. Thank god i already deleted mine. Since Dmg maker paragons sucked, i didnt want to be a support/healing type of paragon. So screw that ^^

Methinks someone has not come across Aggressive Refrain + Focused Anger {E}...

pingu666 · Feb 01, 2007, 01:49 AM // 01:49

hehe, when i capped soldiers fury i had focused anger too, that was funny..
and a double adrenaline on hit spear. was stabbing gfte like it was barrage :P

Colon's Fury · Feb 01, 2007, 06:16 PM // 18:16

Spear Paragons can do tremendous damage if used right. I've been running a P/Mo lately with Cruel Spear/Spear of Lightning/Vicious Attack/GFTE/Aggressive Refrain/Leader's Comfort/mending touch/res sig and it can destroy people in no time. When you're in the middle of a fight, Aggressive Refrain + GFTE is insane, pretty much constant IAS along with increased criticals (hello deep wound from Vicious Attack?) is amazing. There have been many many times when a melee character has tried to kill me in RA, but I've offed him first. I really think that people are not seeing the true potential that paragons have, and that is the spear line (oops, I let the secret out!).

Mad5cout · Feb 03, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Yeah I am starting to get wholey frustrated with people who made one paragon and used it for three days and then deleted coming in here and saying the class sucks and that its worthless. They probably didn't even cap any of te elites or get off noob island far enough to realize the skills available at the end game. It also take MONTHS for the community as a whole to hash out the stronger builds in any profession.

I do agree with the spirit of what crimson is saying. Many skills are too focused or have too many detrimental effects to really put the paragon in the position it is supposed to be. There are a few skills like GFTE that are dead on but many of them need to be looked at again - Hexbreaker Aria, Heal Me, and some of the "elites" like It's Just a Flesh Wound to mention a few.

I especially think some of the skills need to focus more on casters. Things like:

All Allies next cast cost _ less energy.
Next cast by target ally does _ more damage.
Next enchantment cast by target ally lasts _ seconds longer.

anyway... I think the reason there is the focus on this crimson is due to the PUG nature of the community at large. Pugs don't think team builds enough (unless it is one of the sheep effect builds like Tombs or GoA has turned into where only one team build is acceptable) for this to work in their opinion. Their focus naturally turns to "What can the paragon do on his own." Which is really missing the point entirely.

pingu666 · Feb 05, 2007, 01:18 AM // 01:18

nah they shouldnt focus on casters, and they shouldnt focus on melee either.

partywide useful buffs to all is the best way forward.

realisiticaly uve got 5-7 skills to play with
1 attack skill (trigger effects, help on spikes, stop bordom)
2
3
4
5
6
7self heal/evasive stance
8 res

unless you have a caster heavy team build, or a melee heavy one, u dont really wanna take spell/melee buffs over generic buffs. a good commander treats people as equals, i belive paragons should do the same

baddog992 · Feb 06, 2007, 07:19 PM // 19:19

Ya paragons for the pve is now a dead class, they are plenty in gvg and the halls but I see next to none paragons in the pve areas. People just see how much damage a deverish and or other class can anahlate everyone and they wonder whats the point? Also in a lot of the missions they spam the anti shout every few seconds making all chants useless, also even if your out of the circle in pve it will still effect your shouts, drives me nuts in some missions. I was a few feet from the circle and still i was effected, ugh.