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Old Dec 06, 2007, 04:04 AM // 04:04   #1
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One third of collector Paragon weapons and shields have mods that are conditional on Stances. +45hp in a Stance.

The issue is that Paragons have no native stances, they need to have P/W, P/R, P/Me, P/D to have a stance. Is there an oversight here? Or is the funnelling intentional? Are those spears and shields for others?

Why aren't they more generic? There are a heap more conditionals around.

While Paragons also do not have Enchantments, the +45hp when Enchanted, I can understand. A party member can always cast an Enchant on me.
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 04:32 AM // 04:32   #2
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It is just how it is mate....

They can't just have non-conditional 15%
They do have 15>50
They can't have 15 while under a shout, because that is basically non-conditional.
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 04:45 AM // 04:45   #3
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Yeah, the funny thing is that there aren't any 15\/50 and when hexed and stuff either.
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 04:47 AM // 04:47   #4
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Yeah, the funny thing is that there aren't any 15\/50 and when hexed and stuff either.
There is 20<50 and 20 while hexed....atleast I know spears can have them.

But them are usually left out of any discussion and are ignored 90% of the time.
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 09:12 AM // 09:12   #5
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One third of collector Paragon weapons and shields have mods that are conditional on Stances. +45hp in a Stance.
Herein lies the problem. I found many of the collector weapons in Elona and Eye of the North to be completely useless. It's like it's ANet's attempt to try to make really horrible inscriptions popular. For example, there is a collector in Darkrime Delves who I think requires some form of Jotun-related carcass. He gives you Energy +7 (while hexed) weapons. Collectors in Elona which give you 15^50 staves and HCT (10%) martial weapons also annoy me. In short, there aren't that many collectors who give away weapons with really good mods.

Cantha is an exception. In general Canthan collectors are really quite good, and a couple have unusual items, such as a Gemstone Staff which requires Domination, but has HCT Inspiration. Cantha ftw, just a shame they don't have Paragon Weapons.
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 09:20 AM // 09:20   #6
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It's kinda like all the swords/axes/hammers that are 15^enchanted. ANet is promoting wammos
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 10:13 AM // 10:13   #7
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It's kinda like all the swords/axes/hammers that are 15^enchanted. ANet is promoting wammos
Anet seemed to promote wammos from the start with their "suggested builds" in the game guides and so forth.

WHY, ANet, WHY?
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 10:32 AM // 10:32   #8
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Anet seemed to promote wammos from the start with their "suggested builds" in the game guides and so forth.

WHY, ANet, WHY?
They promoted hamstorm (and to a lesser extent IWAY) on the boxart!
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 11:16 AM // 11:16   #9
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I think a better question is, why do monks and necros have stuff like 15 in stance on collectors weapons. They have no stances, and they don't even need the damage.
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 03:25 PM // 15:25   #10
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I think a better question is, why do monks and necros have stuff like 15 in stance on collectors weapons. They have no stances, and they don't even need the damage.
WAND MORE.

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It's kinda like all the swords/axes/hammers that are 15^enchanted. ANet is promoting wammos
Conjure too. Notice how all the Conjure icons have martial weapons? They weren't meant to be used with wands. Muhahahha.
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I think a better question is, why do monks and necros have stuff like 15 in stance on collectors weapons. They have no stances, and they don't even need the damage.
Yeah, its the same problem. Oh well, wanding does add up.
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Old Dec 06, 2007, 07:23 PM // 19:23   #13
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[skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill]anyone?
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[skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill]anyone?
You know how bad ass it is to have a blind folded person beat the crap out of people with huge or wicked or both, melee weapons?!

If Ritualists were naturally born blind in the game, it would be even better!!

"Pwn'd by the blind man ........ again .........."

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well sins have DA hilts thats even more useless in my book
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