Curse

Kavadas · May 12, 2008, 09:34 PM // 21:34

[build=Spear Primary;OQkjExl85MXlH8CWBDkZwbFAAA]

I generally use the last slot as sort of a flex option (sunspear rez, sprint, mission specific skill like Abaddon's whatever). I have 15 strength and 12 spear mastery.

I'm pretty new to the game and have only been playing about a month. I find that on my own I'm not totally gimped but hex heavy enemies can really do a number on me if I'm not careful. In a group with my guildies I tend to do very well and am easily the primary DPS especially once I get my adrenaline up and I can slam mobs the wound, then bleed, then fire, then lightning, and then mighty throw.

The only thing I can't make up my mind up about is [mighty throw] or [wearying spear]. Wearying has the 5 sec weakness afterwards but mighty has a three second cast time. Even with a monk on my ass 24/7 I still get stuck with the weakness semi-frequently. I'm currently working on picking up [stunning strike]. I just beat Varesh.

Oh, and I have access to all campaigns and expansions. Any advice?

MisterB · May 12, 2008, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Spear warriors don't work as well as Spear paragons, or as well as using sword, axe, or hammer. This is the Paragon forum; post in the Warrior forum, but be prepared for some criticism. Your build lacks an IAS([[Flail] is good in PvE), you have too many attack skills, and [[Mighty Throw] is bad. [[Endure Pain] is also bad. Have a look at the sticky thread in the warrior forum; it's great for new players to the warrior class.

Alex the Great · May 12, 2008, 10:01 PM // 22:01

[flail] is a must, as is [lion's comfort] in this kind of build.

although you'd probably be better off just using Dslash

Axel Zinfandel · May 12, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Don't forget Dolyak signet. Your a turret, so make the most of it :P

Spear warriors are awesome, except for the fact that they, like paragons, tend to be the last one standing, thus taking away from a big aspect of a warrior; Absorbing hits.

On the whole though, it has a better DPS then Sword Hammer, of axe :/

MisterB · May 12, 2008, 10:24 PM // 22:24

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

Don't forget Dolyak signet. Your a turret, so make the most of it :P

[[Dolyak Signet] is terrible in a party; it's fine for solo-farming. Just because you have a ranged weapon does not mean you should snare yourself.

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

Spear warriors are awesome, except for the fact that they, like paragons, tend to be the last one standing, thus taking away from a big aspect of a warrior; Absorbing hits.

Warriors are supposed to kill things and damage others, not stand there taking damage. Spear warriors do less damage than either paragons or warriors because of weapon mastery runes.

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Originally Posted by Axel Zinfandel

On the whole though, it has a better DPS then Sword Hammer, of axe :/

It doesn't.

Kavadas · May 12, 2008, 10:29 PM // 22:29

Doesn't the extra AP from strength make up for a ton of the damage lost through the spear mastery runes when not paragon primary? And why is [lion's comfort] better than [endure pain]? Endure Pain has been an essential "Oh sh*t!" utility for me and it saves my ass like no tomorrow. I am picking up 300 health for 17 seconds with it.

MisterB · May 12, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

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Originally Posted by Kavadas

Doesn't the extra AP from strength make up for a ton of the damage lost through the spear mastery runes when not paragon primary?

No. Strength only works on attack skills, but a Paragon with higher spear mastery will do more damage on all their attacks, and will have more bonus damage in addition to a higher chance for critical hits. You can play a spear warrior if you want, but be aware that you are doing less damage than a warrior with a primary weapon or a paragon with a spear. You should really take [[Flail], though. Maybe a cancel stance if you are worried about the snare. An IAS skill(increase attack speed) with 33% will increase your damage and adrenaline gain by 50%.

[[Endure Pain] doesn't actually heal you; that's why it is bad. It temporarily raises your max health, but it subtracts that same amount when it ends, which can kill you. I rarely bother with self heals, but I would prefer anything before considering [[Endure Pain]. During those same 17 seconds, LC can heal you far more than the temporary boost from Endure Pain. [[Lion's Comfort] has synnergy with [[For great justice] on your bar.

PyrAnkh · May 14, 2008, 11:49 AM // 11:49

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Originally Posted by Kavadas

Doesn't the extra AP from strength make up for a ton of the damage lost through the spear mastery runes when not paragon primary? And why is [lion's comfort] better than [endure pain]? Endure Pain has been an essential "Oh sh*t!" utility for me and it saves my ass like no tomorrow. I am picking up 300 health for 17 seconds with it.

Cause if you are a warrior with a spear (therefore heavy armored AND ranged), and you need an Oh sh*t skill, you are doing something wrong.

Leetwalrushunter · May 16, 2008, 01:15 AM // 01:15

6 attack skills is eughh

Chronos the Defiler · May 16, 2008, 07:10 AM // 07:10

[build=Stunning Charge;OQkiExl8AkLyC5h8VxwyXFAA]

I usually run that as a spear warrior :/

Sometimes instead of [skill]Wild Throw[/skill] i bring [skill]maiming spear[/skill]

Kavadas · May 18, 2008, 12:32 AM // 00:32

So I've switched over to the sword and am currently running:
[build=OQkjExU85QXFdauRniHWAGrF/VA]
The slot for shield bash usually has a stance in it but I really needed it for the Norn Fighting Tournament. It's been working awesome for me and really the only thing that completely shuts me down is a long blind but with this build I did beat Magni the Bison on my first go round and dominated the contenders up to that point.

But thanks for the tips on Lion's Comfort and using the sword. It's made my main much more efficient and lethal.

Crom The Pale · May 18, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

adding an IAS like flail or tigers stance would dramatically improve your dmg out put. I would sugest replacing either counter attack or Leviathan sweep with it.

If your up against a zone with lots of blocking then keep leviathan, though most often its best to have a hero that can either remove enchants or cast a hex like rigor mortis on the troublesome target.

joshuarodger · May 18, 2008, 03:26 AM // 03:26

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Originally Posted by Kavadas

So I've switched over to the sword and am currently running:
[build=OQkjExU85QXFdauRniHWAGrF/VA]
The slot for shield bash usually has a stance in it but I really needed it for the Norn Fighting Tournament. It's been working awesome for me and really the only thing that completely shuts me down is a long blind but with this build I did beat Magni the Bison on my first go round and dominated the contenders up to that point.

But thanks for the tips on Lion's Comfort and using the sword. It's made my main much more efficient and lethal.

i don't play a warrior often, so if i noticed this, i just feel i should point it out to you. i do play a dervish a lot though so i know a few things about melee characters. you should synergize your skills a little more.

think people above told you to use [flail] but didn't say why. an IAS makes your DPS (damage per second) go through the roof. especially a warrior, which already have the highest single target DPS in the game. it will drastically reduce the time you have to spend in a fight.

EDIT: crom beat me to the IAS speech. and i realized you had a bleeding skill already in there, so nvm about what i was going to say about that.

Kavadas · May 18, 2008, 09:34 AM // 09:34

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Originally Posted by joshuarodger

Stuff.

Yeah, about IAS. The post of mine you're quoting. What does the first sentence under the skill template say?

Chronos the Defiler · May 18, 2008, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by Kavadas

Yeah, about IAS. The post of mine you're quoting. What does the first sentence under the skill template say?

Stance =/= IAS don't try and contradict someone without having truth in your own statement...

But anyways, I agree with what many have already said, even though for the Norn tourny i just used Rit Spirits. W/Rt + painful bond and spirits = instawin

angmar_nite · May 18, 2008, 10:56 PM // 22:56

An IAS increases your damage by 50%. And your normal pve build shouldn't be based on what you do against Magni the Bison - my ele doesn't spirit spam normally.

Crom The Pale · May 19, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

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Originally Posted by angmar_nite

An IAS increases your damage by 50%. And your normal pve build shouldn't be based on what you do against Magni the Bison - my ele doesn't spirit spam normally.

QFT

In the Bison match I run double riposte, noplace else in all of GW would I do that.

P.S. Its not just +50% dmg its all so +50% adren gain meaning you hit with big dmg skills more often. That adds up very very fast!

Owik Gall · May 19, 2008, 06:38 AM // 06:38

If you can, just use the 'Godmode' build I keep seeing around. It doesn't look bad for any warrior, really. Personally, I never use it though.

Mist Walker Skarloc · May 21, 2008, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by MisterB

[[Dolyak Signet] Just because you have a ranged weapon does not mean you should snare yourself.

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Originally Posted by MisterB

(Flail is good in PvE)

WAT

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MisterB · May 21, 2008, 10:53 PM // 22:53

It's true, Flail snares you, but the difference is 33%(Flail) and 75%(Dolyak). The snare from Dolyak can't be removed, is more than double the speed reduction, and lasts longer. You can always cancel Flail, and it actually does something to increase your damage output.