Curse

Washi · May 13, 2008, 01:36 PM // 13:36

Zealous/Vampiric/elemental Spear of Fortitude
Shield with "I Can See Clearly Now" inscription

ScythXIII · May 13, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

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Originally Posted by Savio

Or not, because of the inclusion of Anthem of Flame and "Go For The Eyes!", the lack of "For Great Justice!", no mention of req 7 shields, and the note that your allegiance rank should be at least 3. I wish PvXwiki would get things right for once.

Ehm... variants, much? You got me on the req 7 and notes, though.

Oblivious Moose · May 13, 2008, 09:39 PM // 21:39

some1 should get rachtoh's imbagon build and stiky it. im getting annoyed by how many threads there are about the damn build...

Angelus... · May 14, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Hey man, its just a simple question, you dont have to answer it or even read it. I'm just trying to get a little help.

Washi · May 14, 2008, 06:54 AM // 06:54

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10254869

Angelus... · May 14, 2008, 12:01 PM // 12:01

Ahhh, thank you Washi!

Arduin · May 14, 2008, 12:13 PM // 12:13

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Originally Posted by Angelus...

Hey man, its just a simple question, you dont have to answer it or even read it. I'm just trying to get a little help.

That's what you get when not following the links helpful people post in your very own thread

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...49&postcount=5

Brian the Gladiator · Jun 03, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

[build prof=Paragon/Warrior][Spear of Lightning]["There's Nothing to Fear!"]["Save Yourselves!"][Focused Anger]["For Great Justice!"][Anthem of weariness][Aggressive Refrain][Signet of Return][/build]

That's the build I use for Imbagon...

Nightow · Jun 03, 2008, 11:04 PM // 23:04

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Originally Posted by Brian the Gladiator

[build prof=Paragon/Warrior][Spear of Lightning]["There's Nothing to Fear!"]["Save Yourselves!"][Focused Anger]["For Great Justice!"][Anthem of weariness][Aggressive Refrain][Signet of Return][/build]

That's the build I use for Imbagon...

I use almost exactly the same setup. I just use [spear of fury] instead of [Spear of Lightning] for the extra adrenaline.

MMSDome · Jun 04, 2008, 06:30 AM // 06:30

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Originally Posted by Washi

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10254869

for this when you have cons you take out FGJ and replace it with sig of return (obviously).

MasterSasori · Jun 06, 2008, 09:10 AM // 09:10

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Originally Posted by Nightow

I use almost exactly the same setup. I just use [spear of fury] instead of [Spear of Lightning] for the extra adrenaline.

I say screw the rez and go for the extra attack!

When you're imbagon, you're basically impervious so there should be no dying. Should death occur (which is unlikely), one of your heros can do the job.

Nightow · Jun 06, 2008, 02:23 PM // 14:23

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Originally Posted by MasterSasori

I say screw the rez and go for the extra attack!

When you're imbagon, you're basically impervious so there should be no dying. Should death occur (which is unlikely), one of your heros can do the job.

Right, then I'd most likely take [Merciless Spear] or [Vicious Attack] if there's a second paragon spamming GftE!

xDusT II · Jun 06, 2008, 02:26 PM // 14:26

I would probably avoid "Go for the eyes!" on an Imbagon bar unless you have a particularly high Kurzick/Luxon title. It slows down the rate at which you pump out "Save Yourselves!" and the benefits aren't something to write home about.

MasterSasori · Jun 07, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

I would probably avoid "Go for the eyes!" on an Imbagon bar unless you have a particularly high Kurzick/Luxon title. It slows down the rate at which you pump out "Save Yourselves!" and the benefits aren't something to write home about.

The extra energy from GftE is useful because SY itself isn't always enough to make up for paragon's worthless 2 pips of energy. You may need the energy if you're spamming TNTF, Spear of lightning, and Spear of Fury. Even if you don't need the energy, its nice to have something to refresh Aggressive Refrain.

The loss of adrenaline is very easy to take care of compared to the energy.

Racthoh · Jun 07, 2008, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by MasterSasori

The extra energy from GftE is useful because SY itself isn't always enough to make up for paragon's worthless 2 pips of energy. You may need the energy if you're spamming TNTF, Spear of lightning, and Spear of Fury. Even if you don't need the energy, its nice to have something to refresh Aggressive Refrain.

The loss of adrenaline is very easy to take care of compared to the energy.

Energy is quite manageable with just SY. There is no need to mash the attack skills on recharge unless there is a target that absolutely has to die. Also you can always weapon swap if you lack energy for FA/TNTF/FGJ as they recharge.

Spura · Jun 08, 2008, 02:12 PM // 14:12

I can keep up Aggressive refrain just fine by using TNTF. No need to waste slots on junk skills like Anthem of Flame or Anthem of Weakness.

MasterSasori · Jun 08, 2008, 04:16 PM // 16:16

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

There is no need to mash the attack skills on recharge unless there is a target that absolutely has to die. Also you can always weapon swap if you lack energy for FA/TNTF/FGJ as they recharge.

That's true. But I rather pick off certain targets faster. Now whether or not removing GftE and replace it with another attack will shorten battles, I'm not sure....

I do know that GftE recharges Aggressive refrain so that's my main reason for having it.

Most of the time when I'm short on energy, its at the beginning after casting Aggressive refrain. Don't have energy issues mid/late battle.

xDusT II · Jun 09, 2008, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by MasterSasori

That's true. But I rather pick off certain targets faster. Now whether or not removing GftE and replace it with another attack will shorten battles, I'm not sure....

I do know that GftE recharges Aggressive refrain so that's my main reason for having it.

Most of the time when I'm short on energy, its at the beginning after casting Aggressive refrain. Don't have energy issues mid/late battle.

At 12 Leadership, "TNtF!" will be enough on it's own to recharge AR and you can use a high energy set in case you need it to get the shout off. In battle, if your running with other paragon heroes, your AR should be constantly refreshed by their shouts.

"GftE!" is really something that will benefit from being on a hero rather than the SY spammer. That additionally killing power it provides isn't spectacular in high-end PvE and is most likely not worth trading a permanent "SY!" for.

longhornrob · Jun 15, 2008, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by Spura

I can keep up Aggressive refrain just fine by using TNTF. No need to waste slots on junk skills like Anthem of Flame or Anthem of Weakness.

I think the idea behind keeping Anthem of Flame/Weariness on the bar is to keep AR refreshed in between battles. That way, you don't start off -25 energy at the onset of the next battle.

Shaz · Jun 15, 2008, 06:35 AM // 06:35

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Originally Posted by longhornrob

I think the idea behind keeping Anthem of Flame/Weariness on the bar is to keep AR refreshed in between battles. That way, you don't start off -25 energy at the onset of the next battle.

You can already do that with TNTF, that's what spura and xDusT II meant. At 12 Leadership you have a 1 second window after it recharge to use TNTF again. If you find that's too small, craft another headpiece with a Superior leadership rune for 15 Leadership to cast AR then switch back to your normal head piece for a larger window.