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Captain Bulldozer · Mar 01, 2011, 11:02 PM // 23:02

So, in a different thread, Cullian threw down the following challenge:

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Originally Posted by cullian

let's see your paragon Onslaught bars, huh? Doesn't require a lot of attribute points and I haven't seen any that are all that great for the dervish. Amaze me.

Yes yes, I know its kind of a ridiculous idea, but still I thought, why not play around with it? Post your P/D builds... the only condition is that the elite is onslaught.

Here's what I came up with. Keep in mind, I doubt this would be very good and have not play tested it (nor am I likely to as I doubt I'd like the results).

Leadership: 9 + 1
Wind Prayers: 9
Scythe Mastery: 12
Command: Whatever's left

Onslaught (E)
Vow of Piety
Blazing Finale
"Go for the Eyes!"
Victorious Sweep
Radiant Scythe
Mystic Twister
"There's nothing to fear!"

Basically this is a front-line scythe paragon. You're using GftE and Radiant Scythe to gain energy to power Onslaught and TNtF. If you use Vow of piety at the beginning then Onslaught will refresh it every 10 seconds. Blazing finale is used to spreads burning on removal of GFtE. Mystic twister is pumped up by Onslaught and Vow of Piety for some AoE dmg.

Now that you've seen (and no doubt freely mocked) the above build, let's see what the rest of you can come up with. Good hunting.

[email protected]!k3 · Mar 02, 2011, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Well, personally I don't think its a good idea to have Onslaught on a para bar at all. While it seems that it's energy cost isn't much, in the longer run it's a killer since you have to keep on re-applying every 10s. I rather run Soldier Fury with CTT!/LDW! and have the extra adrenaline gain, but I do digress. As a fellow Para user I shall step up to your challenge, I'm not saying these are at all superior nor efficient builds that are cookie-cutter-perfect, just postin' my ideas to give others inspiration.

Leadership: 8+1+1
Scythe Mastery: 12
Wind Prayers: 10

Reap Impurities (AoE, Damage)
Chilling Victory (AoE, Damage)
Radiant Scythe (Energy, Damage)
Anthem of Flame (Support, Energy)
Onslaught [E] (IAS, IMS)
Pious Restoration (HP Gain, Enchant Kill)
Eternal Aura [PvE] (+HP, Hard Rez)
Great Dwarf Armor [PvE] (+HP, +Armor)

Well, one thing you may notice immediately is the lack of paragon skills. *sigh I'd go into depth why I left out skills, but we should all know why there aren't, lol. I wanted to get my build to resemble the general outline of the of the OP's build, so i stayed true with a scythe. Damage wise, it can be better, but this is just a mock build so bare with me. When it came to armor I felt as I was naked since I got no shield so I tried to compensate with a small armor boost, and decent HP increase. I wanted to use Eternal Aura to try to knock down two birds with one stone, Great +hp and a cute rez (I guess you can figure why I also threw in Pious Restoration as well ^^). For the sake of any new users on, I'll let you guys know that you should be wielding a Zealous Scythe of Enchanting, with this energy gain should be something you forget about and if you feel really desperate go ahead and fire off Anthem of Flame for an extra little boost+burning.

Command: 9
Leadership: 10+1+1
Spear Mastery: 9+1
Wind Prayers: 9

Vicious Attack (Deep Wound, Damage)
"Go for the Eyes!" (Support, Energy)
Anthem Of Envy (Damage, Support)
Mystic Twister (Damage)
Onslaught (IAS, IMS)
Ebon Standard of Wisdom (Support)
"Stand Your Ground!" (Support, +Armor)
"We Shall Return!" (Hard Rez)

Yay! I got a shield again.

This build suits my own tastes a bit better, but nonetheless it meets the said criteria. It provides modest support with a few niches. Ah! Vicious Attackr+"GftE!" Its like peanut butter to jelly, macaroni to cheese, horseradish to beef (oh wait, is that just me?^^), You got to have them together! Then you got the general melee/caster support with Anthem of Envy and EBSoW, with light glaze of "SYG!" to make the squishies... not so squishy. Oh yeah, I threw in Mystic Twister in there just because I can, and also because, it makes up for one of the para's tragic faults and that is AoE damage!(Holy Spear doesn't count, lol) (Please if there's an Anet out there, please oh, please will you grant me this wish!) Keep in mind that this build isn't supposed to be fluid and omnipotent as the oh-so-great PvX grants with. Again, I'm not saying these are perfect and are no way superior to other builds that I may remain ignorant to. I hope I can spark inspiration other fellow Paragon users, such as our kind patron OP, to step up to the challenge and distribution of ideas and builds!

Rites · Mar 02, 2011, 05:50 AM // 05:50

not tested, but just thought i'd throw in my idea

has crippling, added defense, minor heal, extra damage,interrupt possibilities, and if timed right vow of piety can be constantly maintained

+2+1 spear mastery
+1 leadership (so added energy per shout/chant will be +5)

itiscurtains · Mar 02, 2011, 06:21 AM // 06:21

Fun challenge! It's got me thinking about P/D scythe builds again, something I haven't considered since the recent nerf (or was it a buff?). I like the OP's build, though I'd make a couple tweaks.

Leadership: 8+1+1
Wind Prayers: 10
Scythe Mastery: 12

Onslaught (E)
"TNtF!"
Blazing Finale
"GftE!"
Victorious Sweep
Radiant Scythe
Reap Impurities
Chilling Victory/Sneak Attack

The constant reapplication of burning from Blazing Finale seems like it would synergize well with Reap Impurities. I also added a fourth attack skill since scythe skills aren't quite as spammable as they used to be.
I'm terrible with spear builds, so I'll pass on that and leave it up to the pros.

Khomet Si Netjer · Mar 02, 2011, 12:42 PM // 12:42

Gotta be careful not to use too much energy imo, the paragon will not have enough to maintain enchantments like a dervish. Even at 12 wind prayers Onslaught will only last 13 seconds (+2.5s with +20% enchanting scythe) so you need to spend 10 energy every 15 seconds to maintain it. This will use up the paragon's inherent energy regeneration all by itself.

I think this is viable, though clearly not as good as a dervish would be in the same role. Energy will be tight when you start up Vow of Piety, but Onslaught should maintain it 100%. Grenth's Grasp is cheap, does damage, and transfers 2 conditions. Everything else costs adrenaline so you can spam all day. Test of Faith gives enchantment removal and Daze, the other skills are all mass damage.

scythe 12
wind 12

Test of Faith
Mystic Twister
Chilling Victory
Reap Impurities
Grenth's Grasp
Vow of Piety
Onslaught (E)
Resurrection Signet

Also, http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/User:...dbox#Onslaught
This build was made long before the dervish update but would still work pretty well.