Curse

riktw · Feb 03, 2009, 11:02 PM // 23:02

hello

is it still possible to make an fragility spiker, that can spike as nicely as an normal spiker?
i tried and the most damage i did is 428 in 11 second @ master of damage.
i don't PvP very much, only RA and zaishen stuff, sometimes AB and JQ.
so i don't know how much an normal spiker can deal, here is the build i used @ master of damage and a little video:

[build prof=Me/N illusion=16][Fragility][Shrinking Armor][Accumulated Pain][Virulence][Epidemic][Hypochondria][/build]

you need to wait about 2 sec after epidemic before you cast hypochondria, see video
and i dont have all runes so i deal 19 damage with fragility
i see some problems already, like that you need 6 skills just for 1 spike

video:
http://www.xfire.com/video/71a2f/

what do you think?

refer · Feb 03, 2009, 11:29 PM // 23:29

I that's as far as you may get, but I'm not really sure. There's a fragiliy spiking mesmer video on youtube from the Nightfall preview weekend and you could do like huge spikes since the skills were triggered twice. And I quote: "When Hypochondria was first released, casting it triggered Fragility twice for each condition, hitting for AT LEAST 168 instantly. So you've got 21+21+21+21+168+21+21+21+Deep Wound done within a few seconds." I'm saying this because maybe that's as good as it could get, since they fixed it from before?

But I would really like to know... what do you use to record your game?

jiggles · Feb 03, 2009, 11:33 PM // 23:33

Quote:

428 in 11 second

pointless, just about everybody with half a brain has 600+ hp. So unless you plan to kill them with degen when they dont have a healer, then theres no use for it. I'm not even to bother trying to improve it. at all.

riktw · Feb 03, 2009, 11:33 PM // 23:33

Hypochondria has changed i guess.
i use xfire for recording, you can do everything with xfire, chatting, recording, screenshots.
and its free, and it uploads the video to your xfire account so no youtube and bad quality.
and xfire is free.
www.xfire.com

@jiggles
master of damage calcurates deep wound as damage to, so you deal 428 - 96 = 332 damage.
when you got 600 health you deal 332 damage and he loses 120 health becouse of deep wound.
so he would have 600-332-120=148 left.
not lethal but still fun in RA
used it in RA a couple of minutes ago, with some e-managment.
we got ranger with 2 conditions in our team.
funny, 19 clouds, not lethal but funny to watch

pingu666 · Feb 04, 2009, 12:52 AM // 00:52

dont think deep wound is counted by master of damage

probably better things u can do with your mesmer tho... i think fragility will count twice on melandru derv's, as they get condition then instantly lose it, or they did...

ac1inferno · Feb 04, 2009, 02:35 AM // 02:35

[build prof=mesme/necro illusi=12+1+3 fastca=9+1 inspir=9+1 deathm=0][fragility][conjure phantasm][images of remorse][accumulated pain][virulence][drain enchantment][distortion][resurrection signet][/build]

This one averages 450 damage over the duration of the combo, and can deal an additional 100 damage through degen afterwards.

Average time to cast all the skills in the combo: 4 seconds. Adding in the 3 seconds to wear off Virulence's conditions, and you have a 7-8 second solo spike.

Icy The Mage · Feb 04, 2009, 02:41 AM // 02:41

deep wound also caps at 100 health

bungusmaximus · Feb 04, 2009, 07:35 AM // 07:35

It's fun for the lols, I played those bars myself too sometimes, but it's not very powerful compared to other mesmer tools. Fragility on a FF necro is **** fun though :P

riktw · Feb 04, 2009, 10:30 AM // 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ac1inferno

[build prof=mesme/necro illusi=12+1+3 fastca=9+1 inspir=9+1 deathm=0][fragility][conjure phantasm][images of remorse][accumulated pain][virulence][drain enchantment][distortion][resurrection signet][/build]

This one averages 450 damage over the duration of the combo, and can deal an additional 100 damage through degen afterwards.

Average time to cast all the skills in the combo: 4 seconds. Adding in the 3 seconds to wear off Virulence's conditions, and you have a 7-8 second solo spike.

i tried it, less damage than my build, 350 or so at master of damage guy.

wallywojo · Feb 09, 2009, 09:07 PM // 21:07

[build prof=mesme/necro illusi=12+1+3 fastca=9+1 inspir=9+1 deathm=0][fragility][weaken armor][virulence][you move like a dwarf][pain inverter][summon ruby djinn][auspicious incantation][resurrection signet][/build]

I had fun with the original virulence build and wanted to try and improve on that and this seems to accomplish that by the repeated application of burning by the Djinn. Its fun to play, I think that is why so many like Virulence builds. I was doing HM at the time, so if you like you can swap out Pain Inverter and I replaced it with [Deft Strike] after weaken armor to add another condition cheap.

Hanging Man · Mar 10, 2009, 06:53 AM // 06:53

i saw this E/n running a fragility spiker, i know it isn't a Mesmer but.

basically went round
[skill]fragility[/skill][skill]glyph of immolation[/skill][skill]virulence[/skill]
needless to say, it hurt a little bit.

gunster · Mar 10, 2009, 11:43 PM // 23:43

so an e/n was running a skillbar that had mesmer, necro, and ele skills?

Yuna Matsumarui · Mar 14, 2009, 11:25 AM // 11:25

maybe

Me/E

fragility + Glyph of immolation + steam.

provides support, and helps to spike a bit with a tiny bit of dmg. though only to be used in Teams