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Old Nov 22, 2008, 10:11 AM // 10:11   #1
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Default Dervish, Help please...

K, this is my first thread and I'm a newbie.
I bought Nightfall a week ago, and i I'm currently playing Dervish/Warrior. I tried to read sticky guide and ''The way of the scythe and hood'', but there are stuff i don't understand like ''IAS'', ''sup'', there are some skills like ''Mystic Sweep'' who are PvP and PvE, in this case are we talking about two different skills or i could use MS in both PvP and PvE.
I want to play (''Grenth's Cold Grasp'' - as Lordhelmos calls it) basically there are certain skills i need to learn, but the thing is: can i unlearn the skills I learned!?(This is the MAIN QUESTION of this thread) - I mean I can rearrange attributes and that's kewl but if I messed up, what then... in WoW you could pay to get your skills rearranged.
Because GCG build is good but still I want play Avatar of Balthazar and Avatar of Dwayna build (Can anyone give me some links or can post some useful info about Dwayna's build because I can't seam to find any information's about this one, and do i need to take monk as my 2nd class?)

One more question, I can't help but to notice that all characters look the same. I saw one warrior a minute ago then the same one goes right in front of me with the different name, wtf?... are there any epic, elite armor or some thing like that that doesn't look same as everyone's else, like in WoW you see characters but they are all different (I am sorry to compare this game to WoW, please don't flame me... but i can't find any other game to compare it with, and most of you played WoW or at least saw someone else playing it...so you know what I'm talking about)

Thank you for your reply's ^_^ and big thanks to Celestial Beaver and Lordhelmos for making those guides...
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 10:31 AM // 10:31   #2
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Everything you could possibly need to know about guild wars is on the guild wars wiki , here's the link http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Main_Page
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 10:48 AM // 10:48   #3
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I am not the best person to answer this but to your first question yes you can re distribute your skill points at any time you are in an outpost. When I first heard that in wow you had to pay to do that I was astonished
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 10:54 AM // 10:54   #4
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IAS = Increased Attack Speed, example: Heart of Fury. It means more faster attacks, nothing more.

sup = superior, as in superior runes. Those that give a +3 attribute but take -75 hp off of you. Generally you should avoid them except for specific purposes, but for pve a sup scythe mastery it's pretty good actually.

Mystic Sweep has a pve and pvp version, the same skill behaves diferently depending on wich you're playing nothing more. Join your GH or a pvp arena and you'll see what has changed.

And I never played wow for more than 2 hours thank god, but I supposed in there your skills are fixed to your bar? Well, in GW you can and should learn all the skills you want, but you can rearrange them at your will. Your bar only takes 8 skills but in any outpost you can add and remove all the skills you'll like as many times you'd like. When you learn (by capping, learning from the npc) you learn them for good on that character, it's up to you wich ones you want to use nothing more. Just press K and drag n drop them to the bar.

Those other skills you refered (Avatar's etc.) are elite skills, wich you can only get by killing a certain boss and using a Signet of Capture (wich you buy from the npc) to capture it from him. And you can only carry one elite at a time. For more info on this and to wich bosses to kill, wich check the GW wiki like citizens above me said.

As for the armor... Well since you're talking about dervishes, I'd say you're seeing Primeval Armor dyed black, the 'mainstream elite gear' and I use quote marks because there's nothing elite to it other than the amount of cash it costs the armor and the black dyes. Might look good but kinda loses it's value to me when I see over 9000 dervishes in Kamadan looking exactly the same. Just use whatever looks good for you.

Hope this helps.
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 11:29 AM // 11:29   #5
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Thank you guys, especially you kupp.

One more question though...I can buy skills with skill points, but i only get 1 skill point per level, and the level cap is 20 so that means 20 skill points = 20 skills??
Or is there some other way...

Yeah, almost forgot is it illegal to make new character then complete one of the first quests where you get Expert salvage kit, open and Xunlai account put that in your chest, then with other character take it and sell it.. you get 200g easy in 10 minutes....

And if anyone has some Dwayna guides(can find one on GWWiki), what to play and stuff like that would be really cool...
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 11:36 AM // 11:36   #6
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You still gain skill points past level 20 so don't worry about not having enough skill points. And you can keep creating new characters and do the first quests as often as you like. But 200 gold in 10 minutes is not much at all. You're better off leveling your characters and playing them through Nightfall (there are for example free treasure chests that don't require keys : http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/Treasure).
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 03:18 PM // 15:18   #7
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after lvl 20 you will still keep on leveling you just wont get anymore attribute pints or health/energy increases. you can make as many chars as you have slots then delete and redo but 200g/10 mins is extremely low. a normal person can earn upto 10k/30 mins and thats like the bare minimum for non-hardcore farmers.
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 04:25 PM // 16:25   #8
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a normal person can earn upto 10k/30 mins...
thats kewl but how? I can't go solo cuz i'll die, heck i'm having problems to kill those harpies with my party + imp...
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37   #9
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a normal person can earn upto 10k/30 mins...
thats kewl but how? I can't go solo cuz i'll die, heck i'm having problems to kill those harpies with my party + imp...
then your underleveled :P
do some leveling


i cant solo cuz i;ll die?

you use 130 HP derv (think its 130)
use superior runes to decrease your hp then use enchants to stay alive and kill stuff...good farming method for dervys....

thats how you solo stuff with dervs (one of the methods)

do some leveling if ure struggling with lvl8? harpies... just do quests max lvl then play the game get skills farm like a retard......GG MONEY GG
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19   #10
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heres the better wiki: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Quick_access_links

sorry someone linked the less complete one first
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11   #11
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Ok i did some leveling now; i'm lvl 9, and harpies go down in matter of seconds :P
Tried that quest when you need to guard the monument, didn't end well but one more lvl and i think that's going to be fine...
Well thank you guys for your time and reply's
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48   #12
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Ok i did some leveling now; i'm lvl 9, and harpies go down in matter of seconds :P
Tried that quest when you need to guard the monument, didn't end well but one more lvl and i think that's going to be fine...
Well thank you guys for your time and reply's
guard the monument?

specific quest name?

this one? http://guildwars.wikia.com/wiki/A_Decayed_Monument
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if so....tip...wait till most of the enemies have spawned - around 15? then pull them back to the sunspear camp (due north(ish)?) let the SS's kill the enemies while you chip in and help out :P
then just kill off the remaining scales...

if this is the quest your doing then gl its not to bad if you know what your doing :P
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Old Nov 22, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57   #13
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yeah that's it, thx man... ))
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