Curse

Rainman · Feb 06, 2007, 08:11 PM // 20:11

nice build and gr8 job mist

its a pity u didnt call me to test it with u cos u should know how much i love teh sin

I R Exiled · Feb 06, 2007, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Thanksss a bunch, for thinking of this build, big props to you. Just makes me love assassins more. Not only can it kill mobs, but while at Cobalts, I also, killed the boss. I'll post more pictures of other bosses i can kill.

Thanks again man.

Yanman.be · Feb 06, 2007, 09:48 PM // 21:48

How about spamming DB with Moebius Strike? You'd need like critical eye to ensure critical hits, but at least the mobs will die faster?

Mistical miss · Feb 06, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51

critical eye just isnt enough ensurance on its own... and way of the assassin functions as a heal as well (with WoP)

And I R Exiled, Nice find!!, there is a boss like that outside honur hill too (to makuun).. perhaps u can finish that one off as well (I managed ^^, he dropped the darksong)

ahbuh · Feb 06, 2007, 11:09 PM // 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

How about spamming DB with Moebius Strike? You'd need like critical eye to ensure critical hits, but at least the mobs will die faster?

DB has a recharge of 2 seconds why use Morbius Strike, plus unsuspecting strike and wild blow has a 4 sec recharge.

Mistical Miss once again Excellent build!! that gives Assassin a new light of hope in solo farming not involving SF and teleporting back to a safe point.

I R Exiled · Feb 07, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Well, me and Mistical Miss, partied up and we tried to kill Commander Sadi - Belai. I guess it would work solo, but be sure to bring a party full of heroes / henchman to kill the monsters on the way, and the ones surround Sadi. It would probably take some time to do to kill Sadi due to reversal of fortune causing 0 damage, and Shielding Hands reducing damage. So then we tried it duel, and it was very fast :P.

So later on during the day, i decided to go farm trolls. It was surprisingly VERY easy, compared to my 130 hp dervish and 55 / 105 monk. I tried farming the two bosses near the trolls, I could kill the warrior one with ease, but couldn't really kill the ranger one, due to it's use of Troll Ungent, and Escape. Well, here's the results of the warrior boss killed :

Samurai-JM · Feb 07, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Ive used a variant of this build since that last update, works great nearly everywhere I go:

[skill]Critical Defenses[/skill][skill]Unsuspecting Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Critical Strike[/skill][skill]Moebius Strike[/skill][skill]Death Blossom[/skill][skill]Vigorous Spirit[/skill][skill]Restful Breeze[/skill]

You coudl also swap out Vigorous and Restful for Way of Perfection and Shadow Refuge. I like this version because Critical Strike gives you near unlimited energy while Moebius Strike lets you switch between duals with ease, I solo Shiro and other physical damage bosses with this build every day

Mistical miss · Feb 07, 2007, 06:16 AM // 06:16

the pain of moebius is that is has to hit someone under 50% hp

but soloing SHIRO?? How? his meditation...

RebelHero · Feb 07, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18

Not only his meditation... Banishment ftl... lets him regen as well...

Mistical miss · Feb 07, 2007, 02:19 PM // 14:19

Commander sadi-belai, can be soloed:

Thrug · Feb 07, 2007, 05:07 PM // 17:07

Nice build! Just got my sin to lvl 20 after inspiration from solo tombs guide

*Also, off topic, were you the leader of TAXI?

Ty again for the build, nice work

Mistical miss · Feb 07, 2007, 05:35 PM // 17:35

yes I was leader of taxi

Moa Bird Cultist · Feb 07, 2007, 05:47 PM // 17:47

RebelHero: He doesn't use echoing banishment on you if you are the last living member of the party. Meditation of the reaper though... there must be a way to survive it, but it isn't occuring to me at this moment in time, other than buffing your health with survivor insignias, vitae runes and... oh wait, I got it, Vital Boon!

Lets see now...

480-75+50+10+10+15+10+5+5+5=515 health - you'd need to make up another 86 health with boon, or you could run a major crit, leaving you on 555 health - 46, to survive at full health.

Mistical miss · Feb 07, 2007, 05:52 PM // 17:52

problem is not just that I survive

its also possible for shiro to get life back...

chessyang · Feb 07, 2007, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Ideal taken from the Burst sin build

another skill would be [skill=text]flail[/skill]

i mean 4 adrenaline is just 4 attacks. and seems to work on small mobs. have to try trolls once i get to Droks (ya doesn't work oops)

Mistical , i know (sorry im' a speed freak) just saying for small mobs or areas like them insects... nothing to big...still tweaking my self

Mistical miss · Feb 07, 2007, 08:32 PM // 20:32

It has its benefits, but....

Its a stance so cancels way of the assassin, which is ur primary lifegain/energy gain...and at some mobs, u really have to move quickly or u drop too low (corsairs for example)

Moa Bird Cultist · Feb 08, 2007, 01:31 PM // 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistical miss

problem is not just that I survive

its also possible for shiro to get life back...

Disclaimer: Written as it came to mind, so apologies for length and any lack of clarity. I’ve tried to outline the basics below, so if you think anything of it, please gimme your opinion

Yeah, like I was saying in game yesterday, it's actually a lifesteal, so obviously, you cant prot spirit it or anything, but it will only heal him by 600 points and he doesn't use it that often - I mean you should be able to out-damage it if you use a solo focused attack chain -with a little tweaking, you could possibly even run repeating strike - maybe even instead of a dual attack to maximize damage done, as energy would be no object at such a high critical hit rate, (you'd get the energy all back provided you run zealous and score a critical, which you will at least 3/4 of the time. You just need to remember to restart the chain every so often to renew CD.)

Now I understand that Shiro has ~6300 health. Thats a lot of HP to take off, but I still think it can be done solo. After all, he's not invincible and you have Mhenlo to help/hinder you until Shiro decides to have his way with him/kill him with meditation. Now in terms of an actual build to take him down, I wonder... Ideas for a set of skills, equipment and attributes, anyone?

One thing I would definitely say is to have a second weapon set to swap to when he goes into reaper mode - a sword and shield with health mods or a +60 staff would both be good. an item with +45 while in a stance/enchanted item would be even better - you would swap to this to get the health bonus just before reaper ends and get all of your defensive/healing skills on too. This is one situation where I think it might be beneficial to combine shadow arts with earth prayers for mystic regeneration. (the long duration would be far more beneficial than shadow refuge in this situation, even if the regen isn't quite as high from having a low earth stat.

Put simply, it would be something a little like this:

My idea for Soloing Shiro:

Attributes:

13 Critical strikes (10+2+1) (61 points)
3 Earth Prayers (6 points)
9 Dagger Mastery (8+1) (37 points)
9 Shadow Arts (48 points)

(Leaving 48 attribute points to be distributed as you see fit - I would say:
+1 Critical (16)
+1 Dagger (13)
And either:
+1 Shadow Arts (13) and 1 Earth Prayers (4) to spend (46/48 points)
or:
+3 Earth Prayers (14) to spend (43/48 points)

IMO, the +1 shadow is vastly more beneficial as it will increase way of perfection's duration and is more efficient attribute point wise...

Or conceivably: +1 Shadow Arts (13) and +5 Earth Prayers (31) to spend (44/48 points) - this would enable you to meet the break point for +3 regen from Mystic Regeneration, but sacrifices ability on the attack front.)

Runes:

Superior Vigor
Vitae x2
Survivor Insignia x5

Equipment:

1x Max Damage 15% stance/enchanted Zealous Daggers of Enchanting
1x Presearing Crystalline with +30 health mod or +5/+30 mod sword/axe/spear
1x Crimson Carapace Shield or 1x Wintergreen Shield with +45/-2 mods attached.

Skills:

[skill]Way Of The Assassin[/skill][skill]Way Of Perfection[/skill][skill]Critical Defenses[/skill][skill]Vital Boon[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Desperate Strike[/skill][skill]Wild Strike[/skill][skill]Repeating Strike[/skill] -argh, whats going on with this? - nevermind, it's okay now...

I do not have the foggiest if this would actually work or not, because I'll be frank, I only just came up with it as I was typing, but I would be extremely curious if someone would be prepared to give it a shot, as it seems reasonably solid to me. Another thing you could potentially do is armour-swap when he goes into meditation of the reaper - that way you could run a superior crit, a minor dagger and a minor shadow on one set, then switch to superior vigor + vitae x4 just before he bombs you with reaper, since he wont attack for its duration, which gives you plenty of time to swap.

Mistical miss · Feb 08, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18

Your build lacks killing power (tested) ...he just wont die..

Moa Bird Cultist · Feb 08, 2007, 02:38 PM // 14:38

How about survivability though? if that's down then we just need to work on the attack - swap in a more powerful attack chain, maybe. Like I said though, I literally wrote that as it came to mind. Another thing that might help is to have superior crit AND superior dagger on the 'attack' armour. But anyway, the attack chain is basically free for all except of course it must have wild strike and a relatively fast recharging lead attack - the best 'pure damage' dual in this case would seem to be blades of steel, which at the maximum 11 you could achieve with dagger mastery, (unless you opted for a point of dagger mastery over the extra shadow arts, in which case 12 DM,) would deal +39 (+42) damage. The only problem is the recharge. It'll be a case of finding the lead and offhand attacks with the highest DPS that do not inflict conditions, as we have no condition removal... But I still think it can be done.

Mistical miss · Feb 08, 2007, 03:16 PM // 15:16

the farest I got so far was with my sin was 50% of his health... then mehnlo died :P Used sup dag + sup crit + blades of steel and some sort of unblockable dual attack (so that it is still on the recharge when blades of steel hits)