Curse

llsektorll · Mar 03, 2007, 08:52 PM // 20:52

When factions came out I hated Assassins they were weak puny and attacks did little and they were very bad tanks. So I beat factions with it quickly unlocked all the skills for it in PvE and deleted him.

Now im back from square one im recreating him again. They got buff after buff till they are finally worth playing... and always did want to try the arcane echo shadow shroud chest runners... ^_^

should i spend my time making him up or you guys think assassins still suck?

tijo · Mar 03, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

Assassins don't suck, and they never really did, the problem is finding a build that works well with them and there are a few good builds out there. A lot of them are listed on guildwiki. Some players still think sins suck, but it has more to do with who's playing them. Getting in PuGs might be a little difficult but i've noticed it's easier than i was before when you had so many sins running around in factions.

Crazyvietguy · Mar 03, 2007, 10:43 PM // 22:43

I personally did something similar to what you did, and I remade my character (assassin) And i think it was totally worth it. I love playing the assassin especially since they arent frowned upon back like back when factions was released. Although I recommend after leaving the island and doing a few things in Cantha leaving and going to Tyria or Elona. Cantha isnt set up to handle assassins IMO.

Toutatis · Mar 03, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

I love assassins, if they've worked out that they're not tanks and therefore shouldn't even attempt to be a tank. If you can find an assassin who waits for the tanks to grab the aggro, shadowsteps in, unleashes an attack chain, and then shadowsteps out again within 10 seconds or so; you've got an extremely powerful ally who you can count on to help take down any boss in record time.

Bryant Again · Mar 03, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29

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Originally Posted by llsektorll

When factions came out I hated Assassins they were weak puny and attacks did little and they were very bad tanks. So I beat factions with it quickly unlocked all the skills for it in PvE and deleted him.

Now im back from square one im recreating him again. They got buff after buff till they are finally worth playing... and always did want to try the arcane echo shadow shroud chest runners... ^_^

should i spend my time making him up or you guys think assassins still suck?

I'm going to assume when that when you said they're "very bad tanks", that players were attempting to tank with them. They were never met to tank.

I've always loved assassins and thought they were a great class. Deep-wound in 3 seconds? Yes please.

However, I did not like this. Just wasn't fair for assassins.

Shuuda · Mar 03, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30

It was never the assassins who had problems, it's was factions, and their exploding puck men who do more damage when they die. How Ironic that the game which they were introduced in also happens to be the worst one tfor them play them in. Nightfall and prof are much more assassin friendly. I offen play Shadow walk - Jagged strike - wild strike - Death blossom - Moebius strike - death blossom - etc - dash. This works well, it's got an entrance, escape, and AoE damage. You may also wish to consider Flashing blades, at 16 DM it can give a constant 75% Block chance while attacking, and won't take points from you offence.

DunedainJedi · Mar 04, 2007, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Factions wasn't Tank friendly.

I remember the first time I took a warrior against the afflicted. By the end of the mis I was in the back with 60 DP and a long bow.

Not having your enemies give 100+ damage every time they die makes tanking so much easier.

Now I personally love having a sin as a back up melee.

Tingi · Mar 04, 2007, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Yea Soul Explosion was another thing that made people not like assassins.

But for me, Assassins are one of my favourite classes along side Monk and Warrior. So great to play IMO.

BigDave · Mar 04, 2007, 10:32 AM // 10:32

I only started playing Assassin a couple of weeks ago and i must say i'm really enjoying it. For general PvE i've been using a A/D combo with Vital Boon and Conviction to raise my health and armour quite significantly so i can actually hang around in a fight and not have to dash at the first sign of trouble. It also means i can use the Moebius Strike/dual attack combo constantly until what i'm hitting is dead instaed of half killing it then having to back out to heal. Helps enormously with the Afflicted explosions too and there's a couple of attacks in NF which are very useful with enchantments, like Golden Lotus Strike for energy management so you can just keep going, and going, and going......

Having lots of fun.

**POTENTIAL SPOILER**

Was also kinda fun watching Shiro nuke himself with Spoil Victor and Empathy when he was surrounded by 6 Celestial Horrors and me

He went from 50% health to zero so fast i nearly missed it!

Mark Nevermiss · Mar 04, 2007, 11:16 AM // 11:16

My assassin was the first character I made in GW, I had to pretty much hench all of the missions in Factions back then because no one would have me. I recently decided to try to finish NF on him as well and man I was surprised at how well he performed.
He was rewarded with Ancient Armour for that

People didn't seem as reluctant to take me into parties, perhaps as a specimen of an exotic species, and Aura of Displacement helped a ton. I love this skill.
This was the fifth time I finished NF and the first I ever used Zenmai. With an identical skill set to mine [ Had to toggle off AoD manually though], Torment creatures died in seconds between the two of us.

DarkGanni · Mar 04, 2007, 03:44 PM // 15:44

I made an assassin when factions came out but I deleted him, remade him again and deleted again, In the past month I remade him again (3rd time) and this time I always play him also capped all tyrian and nf skills + elites, Yet ppl still avoid me for most missions/areas especially FoW (my favorite place). My favorite elite skill to date is Flashing Blades. I think assassin's are good and as many ppl think, their armor doesn't suck that's a big lie to me imo, With Nightstalker's armor (thats with the +15 armor while attacking bonus) plus the 70 normal armor that makes 85 armor on each part = more armor against elemental damage than a tank. I think you should remake your assassin, I see nothing bad in them.

- Ganni

Bowstring Badass · Mar 04, 2007, 04:42 PM // 16:42

Assassin's have always been great damage dealers only reason for the assassin hate was because a bunch of kids who like Naruto (must kill the person who made this) thinking they can tank.

Laenavesse · Mar 05, 2007, 07:07 AM // 07:07

what they all said. it was more or less the player themselves that were ruining the sin line rather than the sin itself.

I loooove my assassin <3 and they are ANNOYING in pvp >_> and that's a good thing for them, bad thing for casters and soft armor folk. yeah the soul explosion was not a good thing.

Yanman.be · Mar 05, 2007, 07:36 AM // 07:36

I'm considered as the Godfather of sins. Yes, I love them.

Priest Of Sin · Mar 05, 2007, 04:37 PM // 16:37

I'm guilty of being a sin-tank... when Factions first came out, I capped Flashing Blades and was a tank-o-matic, at least untill Arborstone. Thank God I've gotten a little smarter since then. Really, the assassin is very VERY useful to have for taking out a priority target quickly and easily, as they can do it faster than any other class.

But then again, there's the A/Rt splinter weapon+Death Blossom+Mobieus Strike Melee nuker. So I guess you COULD go the AoE route, it's just not as effective as an ele.

Btw, Shadow Walk= PvE GOD!

Flightmare · Mar 05, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05

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Originally Posted by DarkGanni

With Nightstalker's armor (thats with the +15 armor while attacking bonus) plus the 70 normal armor that makes 85 armor on each part = more armor against elemental damage than a tank.

You forgot the shield.

Yanman.be · Mar 06, 2007, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Shield and Daggers don't mix.

bungusmaximus · Mar 06, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17

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Originally Posted by Tan Blademaster

Yea Soul Explosion was another thing that made people not like assassins.

But for me, Assassins are one of my favourite classes along side Monk and Warrior. So great to play IMO.

Spirit bond > afflicted soul explosion.
These annoying rangers with throw dirt seem like a bigger problem to me, they utterly suck when theres more then 2.

Arduin · Mar 06, 2007, 09:31 AM // 09:31

I absolutely love assassins in AB. 3 out of 4 I encounter are running the same old build. Blind them, interrupt them, strip their enchantments... so easy to kill.

1 out of 4 I encounter are using a highly original build. Poof, slash, whack...ranger down

ghostkai · Mar 06, 2007, 09:59 AM // 09:59

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Originally Posted by Arduinna

I absolutely love assassins in AB. 3 out of 4 I encounter are running the same old build. Blind them, interrupt them, strip their enchantments... so easy to kill.

1 out of 4 I encounter are using a highly original build. Poof, slash, whack...ranger down

that was me, original builds ftw, temple strike ftw