Curse

ensoriki · Apr 29, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09

Farm things in hardmode?
But things attack so much faster..... LS could be done before its 7 second recharge is up -_-

SluggyTheZealot · Apr 29, 2007, 10:16 PM // 22:16

nice work man, will definitely try this out!

Yanman.be · Apr 30, 2007, 05:48 AM // 05:48

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

Farm things in hardmode?
But things attack so much faster..... LS could be done before its 7 second recharge is up -_-

Let's see... at an HP level of 10 and prot spirit, you take 1 damage per hit. You can use LS every 8 seconds. In that timeframe, they need to attack 126 [email protected] prot.

AlienFromBeyond · Apr 30, 2007, 05:55 AM // 05:55

That'd be a little under 16 attacks a second, which you could actually hit depending on how many guys you're fighting and what profession they are.

Still, nice build.

SotiCoto · Apr 30, 2007, 12:03 PM // 12:03

... Sounds like one to test on Anvil Rock Minotaurs to me...

Random thought: A Ranger primary (instead of Assassin) with an attack-avoidance stance could double the potential duration / number of enemies farmable.... right?

ACreator · Apr 30, 2007, 01:15 PM // 13:15

still u are limited by the need to recast

SotiCoto · Apr 30, 2007, 04:24 PM // 16:24

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Originally Posted by ACreator

still u are limited by the need to recast

And? You say that as though normal 55 monks weren't.

boarderx · Apr 30, 2007, 07:21 PM // 19:21

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

... Sounds like one to test on Anvil Rock Minotaurs to me...

Random thought: A Ranger primary (instead of Assassin) with an attack-avoidance stance could double the potential duration / number of enemies farmable.... right?

or forget the ranger thing and use guardian

ACreator · Apr 30, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

And? You say that as though normal 55 monks weren't.

what I meant is that harldy u will take 126 hits in 20 secs, but even if it happens u are able to recast in 7 secs, so not worth bringing it :P

and another thing:

55 dont use elites to tank..

draco inferno · May 01, 2007, 03:08 PM // 15:08

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Originally Posted by SotiCoto

... Sounds like one to test on Anvil Rock Minotaurs to me...

the tricky part about anvil rock minos is that the rez shrine is in an inconvenient location. depending on your spawn, you can either get raped by centaurs immediately after being rezzed or be completely cut off from the minos by a wall of dryders (which destroy you with shadow strike). you could pack a hero with rebirth/rez chant, but it's really a pain. every time you kill a mob, you have to die and let the rez you again, making the run slow and not worth the time. however, running a straight 55 with life sheath does work as long as you don't aggro too much and throw up life sheath the instant it recharges. here's an ele variant that i came up with using some existing principles from uw/gloom solos:

Equipment: 55 armor set, Totem Axe (or equivalent), -50 hp grim cesta

Fire Magic-16 (12+3+1)
Energy Storage-9 (6+3)
Protection Prayers-11

Protective Spirit
Life Sheath (E)
Balthazar's Spirit
Meteor Shower
Bed of Coals
Lava Font
Inferno
Flame Djinn's Haste

this is a pretty quick kill build. on the minos in anvil, you can usually get off a full round of nukes before they break aggro, which is convenient because life sheath and prot spirit run out at just about that time. after they come back, one good flame burst should be enough to finish them. the recharge of MS can be a pain sometimes, but i really can't complain. im still trying to figure out why i can't kill the centaurs, so any thoughts on that would be nice. ultimately, i'd say there are better things to farm with this build that you can kill much faster and more efficiently. for instance, this build also works on the trolls outside drok's very efficiently, especially since it's easy to get to 1hp there.

this also works relatively well for the minos in elona. just bring tahlkora with rebirth+rez chant. die at the trap in front of the starting gate, have her rebirth you then rez you, repeat, then flag her back. dive into the horde of minos below the ledge and have fun.
this whole 1hp concept is very nice for eles. whereas a shadow form ele would have more versatility in what it could farm, the 1hp makes farming easier and safer. you can seriously sit there and tank forever, giving rise to new possiblities for DoA tanks (provided you pack a monk with SB, you would be basically invinsible). amazing find!

oh, and stoneflesh aura 55ing doesn't work. trust me. ><

EDIT: does winter screw this build over? i think this may be the reason i can't kill the centaurs. can anyone confirm this?

EDIT 2: is life sheath bugged? it often seems like i get jipped out of a cast. i will throw up life sheath and prot spirit (and both will go up, according to the duration bars), but in two seconds i'll randomly die. there's no way 5 trolls can hit 118 times in 3 seconds...

moko · May 01, 2007, 07:11 PM // 19:11

has someone actually tried this? because, as far as i remember, life sheat does NOT stack with prot spirit. this means, you will still take the original damage and ps would not change it at all, meaning life sheath would run out in very few hits. at least it was like this ages ago..and i cba testing this myself with a pvp char. >->

draco inferno · May 01, 2007, 09:20 PM // 21:20

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Originally Posted by Mokone

has someone actually tried this? because, as far as i remember, life sheat does NOT stack with prot spirit. this means, you will still take the original damage and ps would not change it at all, meaning life sheath would run out in very few hits. at least it was like this ages ago..and i cba testing this myself with a pvp char. >->

trust me, it still works. the prot spirit reduces the damage to 1, then the LS prevents that 1 damage 118 times. but make sure you throw up prot spirit first and LS second, otherwise the LS will trigger first.

i also came up with a new ele hydra build using this principle:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...27#post2788727

Assassin of Shade · May 01, 2007, 10:31 PM // 22:31

thanks draco ill definitley try it since im trying to make an e/me terra tank uw solo and hes e/mo right now just wish i could get an elite monk and ele all I need.

anyways LET THE DAWN OF THE 1 HP FARMERS BEEEGIIIIN!!!

sumasage · May 01, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

Thanks for the build, just one question. Does it matter what AL of armor i use?

draco inferno · May 01, 2007, 11:11 PM // 23:11

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Originally Posted by sumasage

Thanks for the build, just one question. Does it matter what AL of armor i use?

nope. i use the lowest level ascalon (since that was the cheapest to craft). just make sure it has the proper runes on it.

i will play around with an ele version of this tonight if i get free time and if america gets favor. ><

XxUberMonkeyxX · May 02, 2007, 05:35 AM // 05:35

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Originally Posted by Shuuda

Ah yes, Well I've never seen prot spirit at 1HP, so wasn't sure of how it worked. So Prot spirit makes all damage only 1 (Which would kill you) And LS neutralises th next +126 (Or whatever) Damage, so you can take that may attacks. But in that case, is mending really needed if your taking 0 damage, or is that to counter degen.

yes, prot spirit's description is you cannot take more than 10% of max health, sorry if someone alraedy pointed taht out but im too lazy to look at all these posts

Aces Paladin · May 25, 2007, 06:29 AM // 06:29

where abouts is this build useful.? hard mode where? in places without vamp/life stealing mobs... low degen... etc? an example of a good place to use this build is?

Destinyy · May 25, 2007, 07:46 AM // 07:46

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Originally Posted by Assassin of Shade

thanks draco ill definitley try it since im trying to make an e/me terra tank uw solo and hes e/mo right now just wish i could get an elite monk and ele all I need.

anyways LET THE DAWN OF THE 1 HP FARMERS BEEEGIIIIN!!!

Sounds like a rad plan, for say boss farming... but farming groups upon groups would not be effecient as you'd need to keep dying to get the DP back again...

The terra tank is a tricky build, but once you get used to it it's magic!!! GL with it

SotiCoto · May 25, 2007, 01:19 PM // 13:19

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Originally Posted by draco inferno

the tricky part about anvil rock minos is that the rez shrine is in an inconvenient location. depending on your spawn, you can either get raped by centaurs immediately after being rezzed or be completely cut off from the minos by a wall of dryders (which destroy you with shadow strike).

I found that out the hard way.... -_-;

Perhaps Waijun Bazaar Jade Brohood?

ReZDoGG · May 25, 2007, 03:26 PM // 15:26

Seems limited as you won't beable to solo farm any missions, or UW unless you had a friend with ya. Good idea anyways. Also, would take awhile to kill monsters 1 by 1