Curse

Kosman · Sep 12, 2008, 04:59 PM // 16:59

I decided to post two builds here that I use for my sin. I was going to post them in Pvxwiki, but I just dont know how to do it, even though I read the instructions. Anyway, the first build is for general PvE. It is an high damage-dealing build, especially effective for bosses.

[build prof=Assassin name="General PvE Sin"][Golden Fox Strike][Wild Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike][Critical Eye][Asuran Scan][Critical Agility][Sunspear Rebirth Signet][/build]

Dagger Mastery: 12+1+1
Critical Strikes: 12+1

So what you do here is basically, keeping Critical Agility maintained, and spamming Death Blossom thanks to Moebius Strike while also hexing target with Asuran Scan, should kill mobs very fast.

Variants: Resurrection Signet instead of Sunspear Rebirth Signet.

[build prof=Assassin name="DoA"][Golden Fox Strike][Wild Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike][Critical Eye][Brawling Headbutt][Falling Lotus Strike][Flesh Of My Flesh][/build]

Dagger Mastery: 12+1+1
Critical Strikes: 12+1
Restoration Magic: 3

This is an very effective build for DoA. The point of this build is to spam Death Blossom to give you adrenaline for Brawling Headbutt (knockdown) and then executing Falling Lotus Strike for perfect energy managment. Since there are a lot of mobs grouped together in DoA, lack of getting adrenaline should not be a problem. And you got some nice heavy-healing with Flesh of My Flesh.

Variants: Another ress skill for Flesh of my Flesh.

Equipment for both builds: Radiant Insignia on both chest and legs, which gives you a total of 30 energy. A rune of sup vigor would be nice too. Zealous daggers is a must. Strenght and Honor + Fortitude is perfect. I use Everthorn´s Charkrams. Droknar´s daggers have the same stats.

Well... This was all then, good luck with these builds

Tyla · Sep 12, 2008, 05:02 PM // 17:02

There's no point in the radiant insignias, get rid of them for survivor's or armour enhancing ones. There's also no point in Critical Eye, and Golden Fang Strike would be good for the deep wound.

Kosman · Sep 12, 2008, 05:13 PM // 17:13

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Originally Posted by Tyla

There's no point in the radiant insignias, get rid of them for survivor's or armour enhancing ones. There's also no point in Critical Eye, and Golden Fang Strike would be good for the deep wound.

Yes, but radiants are good for energy and critical eye is for to get more critical hits (more damage.)

Tyla · Sep 12, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Why would you need radiants if you have incredible energy management in the first place? That, and if you've got Falling Lotus Strike you should not be slowing down on energy at all, so removing Crit Eye allows you to make your bar more diverse.

Kosman · Sep 12, 2008, 05:20 PM // 17:20

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Originally Posted by Tyla

Why would you need radiants if you have incredible energy management in the first place? That, and if you've got Falling Lotus Strike you should not be slowing down on energy at all, so removing Crit Eye allows you to make your bar more diverse.

Removing crit eye? Critical hits mean more damage, its not for the energy managment. Radiants can be replaced but Critical Eye, otherwise its another build.

Tyla · Sep 12, 2008, 05:26 PM // 17:26

How exactly is it "another build"?

The real damage you're producing is coming out of the attack skills. The extra crit only adds minimalist damage, and really isn't worth the slot because of the reason I said earlier, and it's primary function is energy management.

Boosting your damage with an extra 8% IAS will be more helpful than chance crits.

Kosman · Sep 12, 2008, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by Tyla

How exactly is it "another build"?

The real damage you're producing is coming out of the attack skills. The extra crit only adds minimalist damage, and really isn't worth the slot because of the reason I said earlier, and it's primary function is energy management.

Boosting your damage with an extra 8% IAS will be more helpful than chance crits.

The extra crit does is not minimal. For example, Death Blossom makes maybe 60+60 damage, while critical hit does 100+100. It´s a major difference.

Karate Jesus · Sep 12, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41

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Originally Posted by Kosman

The extra crit does is not minimal. For example, Death Blossom makes maybe 60+60 damage, while critical hit does 100+100. It´s a major difference.

Kosman, in most cases critical strikes only adds minimal damage (especially against high armored enemies) but is great for energy management. Tyla is right about the radiant insigs, you wont need them. Also, there is no point in putting this on pvxwiki.com. There are already at least 6 DB/MS builds and variants just like this (I should know, one of them is mine).

Zodiac Meteor · Sep 12, 2008, 05:46 PM // 17:46

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

There are already at least 6 DB/MS builds and variants just like this

Yeah, this build has been thought of before. It's like posting a different MM. It's basically the same.

Kosman · Sep 12, 2008, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by Zodiac Meteor

Yeah, this build has been thought of before. It's like posting a different MM. It's basically the same.

I know nothing about this build has been posted before, these are modified builds by me. If there are equal builds like these two, please post them so that I can see them.

SmokingHotImolation · Sep 12, 2008, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by Kosman

I know nothing about this build has been posted before, these are modified builds by me. If there are equal builds like these two, please post them so that I can see them.

Its what every sin is running. No new about it..

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...+death+blossom

Kosman · Sep 12, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

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Originally Posted by SmokingHotImolation

Its what every sin is running. No new about it..

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...+death+blossom

Lol, I guess I´m a nit slow then. ^^

Unreal Havoc · Sep 12, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11

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Originally Posted by Kosman

[build prof=Assassin name="DoA"][Golden Fox Strike][Wild Strike][Death Blossom][Moebius Strike][Critical Eye][Brawling Headbutt][Falling Lotus Strike][Flesh Of My Flesh][/build]

I don't really see the point in taking Falling Lotus Strike over Critical Strike which can return upto 16 energy (3+3+1+1x2) when used with Zealous Daggers and Critical Eye at Critical Strikes 13. Not to mention it's a critical hit which refreshes Critical Agility and is semi-spammable when paired with Moebius Strike.

Bobby2 · Sep 12, 2008, 08:47 PM // 20:47

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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc

I don't really see the point in taking Falling Lotus Strike over Critical Strike which can return upto 16 energy (3+3+1+1x2) when used with Zealous Daggers and Critical Eye at Critical Strikes 13. Not to mention it's a critical hit which refreshes Critical Agility and is semi-spammable when paired with Moebius Strike.

No Agility to refresh in DoA builds, and you can be cool like [moebius strike][death blossom][brawling headbutt][falling lotus][death blossom].

But I agree Crit Strike is a superior skill.

Also Radiants = unnecessary indeed.

Unreal Havoc · Sep 12, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

No Agility to refresh in DoA builds, and you can be cool like [moebius strike][death blossom][brawling headbutt][falling lotus][death blossom].

But I agree Crit Strike is a superior skill.

Also Radiants = unnecessary indeed.

To be honest Critical Eye is probably unnessacary aswell if you're dedicating a skill to energy management, especially if you're not attacking as fast anyway due to lack of Critical Agility.

[Golden Fox Strike][Wild Strike][Critical Strike][Moebius Strike][Death Blossom][Optional][Optional][Resurrection Signet]

Is all you need really, leaving the last two skills completely optional.

Bobby2 · Sep 12, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

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Originally Posted by Unreal Havoc

To be honest Critical Eye is probably unnessacary aswell if you're dedicating a skill to energy management, especially if you're not attacking as fast anyway due to lack of Critical Agility.

I wouldn't bother with them ([Critical Strike] or [falling lotus strike]) either, considering you're already chaining MS/DB under Critical Eye.

Essence of Celerity pwned me too - IAS = provided.

Unreal Havoc · Sep 12, 2008, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by Bobby2

I wouldn't bother with them ([Critical Strike] or [falling lotus strike]) either, considering you're already chaining MS/DB under Critical Eye.

Essence of Celerity pwned me too - IAS = provided.

Hehe, I prefer energy on demand to be honest.

Mortal Amongst Mere Gods · Sep 12, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by Kosman

The extra crit does is not minimal. For example, Death Blossom makes maybe 60+60 damage, while critical hit does 100+100. It´s a major difference.

I don't know where you're getting your numbers from, but it doesn't go from 60 to 100 cause of crit. Probably 60 to around 80. A critical hit deals around double your weapon's base maximum damage, it doesn't affect the damage the skill does. So with the +45 or so from DB, a crit hits around 78. You're better off not taking Crit Eye, the radiants should be switched for survivors or something that adds extra armor. Crit Agility isn't needed because if you're in DoA--or any elite area for that matter--you're almost guaranteed to have cons.

Cathode_Reborn · Sep 13, 2008, 04:38 AM // 04:38

I was getting pretty tried of Crit Eye for e-management since it relies on chance. I tired Lotus Strike, which I liked abit (didn't replace my main off-hand attack though). Might try Golden Lotus Strike next time.

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Originally Posted by Mortal Amongst Mere Gods

Crit Agility isn't needed because if you're in DoA--or any elite area for that matter--you're almost guaranteed to have cons.

That's a pretty bad excuse to not bring CA

All elite areas are easily doable without cons.

-Lotus- · Sep 13, 2008, 05:41 AM // 05:41

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Originally Posted by Cathode_Reborn

That's a pretty bad excuse to not bring CA

All elite areas are easily doable without cons.

agreed. I would rather actually make money from my drops in an elite area than waste it on unnecessary cons.