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RMThompson · May 11, 2005, 05:45 PM // 17:45

Hey Everyone. Was thinking about creating an ultimate Upgrade Guide, where we could see EVERY upgrade for EVERY weapon... with the ultimate goal being a general price guide of items.

If I had the help of a few people, I would LOVE to create a priceguide for Guild Wars. I don't know if that project is in works yet, but It would be an important tool to monitor the economy of Guild Wars.

I think the first step here would to collect a listing of every item. The only fair way to do that is with screenshots, or if people write down what they see and turn it into a local place. I would gladly take on the task of gathering the information.

First we could do crafting materials, then weapons, etc etc etc...

Anyone interested in taking this on, or has someone beaten me to the punch? If not, I'd like some volunteers. To keep this thread free of people volunteering, you may email me @ [email protected] with the subject of Guild Wars Price Guide.

Let me know.

Davin Kabak · May 17, 2005, 08:19 PM // 20:19

This sounds like a good idea, but the price for items is highly variable. This kind of project would require constant maintenance. The best way to maintain it, is to have a price reporting system, where people submit prices they've PAID (or been paid) for items. Not advertized prices. The more submissions for a particular entry, the more accurate it will be.
You would want each entry to have the following:

Name:
Description: (What the item is)
Properties: (what the item does)
# of Submissions: (A rating of how accurate the price is)

Lowest Merchant Price: (Lowest price a Merchant has paid for it)
Highest Merchant Price: (Highest price a Merchant has paid for it)
Avg Merchant Price: (The current average 'going rate')

Lowest Trade Price: (Lowest players have bought/sold the item for)
Highest Trade Price: (Highest players have bought/sold the item for)
Avg Trade Price: (Avg 'going rate' players will buy/sell the item for)

Misc Info: (Other information that affects price/value of an item, like the 'up value' for mods, etc)

I will leave the ultimate system up to you, but here's a starting point for you to think about.

Elythor · May 17, 2005, 08:37 PM // 20:37

While I congratulate you on starting up a useful community project....please refrain from using all CAPS in your heading? Its really really annoying.

RMThompson · May 18, 2005, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davin Kabak

This sounds like a good idea

I will leave the ultimate system up to you, but here's a starting point for you to think about.

I like this system. I think the best way to do this is to use someone's existing list of upgrade items. Somebody out there, I'll go looking for it soon, has a list of every upgrade.

We would need probably 3 different prices for each item, NOT one for each variable. For example a Hale Staff Head can be +2 to +30 health ... We could have a price for the +1-+10 \+11-20 \+21-+30.. But that is STILL a lot of work. It would be useful in the end, but like you mentioned would have to be highly flexible.

Also I think merchant price is not only very time consuming, but not worth that time. It's easy to see what a merchant will pay for your item, but much harder to see what other people will pay.

So i am looking for a partner on this adventure. Anyone interested? Email me offlist, [email protected]

Here is an example of what I think would be good for upgradeable items, and then below that an example of a NON upgrade item (static item, where stats are always the same.)

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Name: Hale Staff Head
Description: Upgrade Component
Properties: Adds +1 to +30 health to an existing staff.
Price Accuracy(scale of 1% -100%): 75%

Minor (+1 to +10)
 Low Price: 100 gold
 High Price: 700 gold
 Average Price: 450 gold
Major (+11 to +19)
 Low Price: 400 gold
 High Price: 1200 gold
 Average Price: 700 gold
Superior (+20 to +30)
 Low Price: 500 gold
 High Price: 4000 gold
 Average Price: 2200 gold
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Name: Dye
Description: Upgrade Component
Properties: Change the color of one piece of armor or mix with another color.
Price Accuracy: 78%

Blue
 Low Price: 100 gold
 High Price: 200 gold
 Average Price: 125 gold
Yellow
 Low Price: 75 gold
 High Price: 175 gold
 Average Price: 125 gold
Orange
 Low Price: 75 gold
 High Price: 150 gold
 Average Price: 125 gold
Green
 Low Price: 100 gold
 High Price: 200 gold
 Average Price: 125 gold
Red
 Low Price: 100 gold
 High Price: 225 gold
 Average Price: 135 gold
Silver (uncommon)
 Low Price: 200 gold
 High Price: 400 gold
 Average Price: 300 gold
Black (rare)
 Low Price: 1200 gold
 High Price: 2000 gold
 Average Price: 1700 gold
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Name: Celestial Sigil
Description: Unique Item
Properties: Create and own a Hall for your Guild
Price Accuracy: 60%

 Low Price: 21,000 gold
 High Price: 52,000 gold
 Average Price: 30,000 gold

Rayne Morgan · May 18, 2005, 11:18 PM // 23:18

I'd be willing to help out on the buying price of dyes.

I don't sell much stuff. Usually give it to guild members or sell it to them for really low prices which would throw off your price ranges. But if I do sell something to non guild members I'll let you know the prices there too.

Konquest · May 19, 2005, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Great idea... How do you think you will code this? I think the best way to go is to create an online database in which the user submits his item (submit form), the program then stores it into the database and the user can the query it with a bunch of searching criterions.

I don't think it will be too hard to implement. Sure it's gonna need some work, but it can be done. There are plenty of open-source options that allow creation of PHP and MySQL and get the creations easily on the web.

Xoops is such a piece of software. I'd be willing to help a bit if you need it.

RMThompson · May 19, 2005, 01:02 AM // 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konquest

Great idea... How do you think you will code this? I think the best way to go is to create an online database in which the user submits his item (submit form), the program then stores it into the database and the user can the query it with a bunch of searching criterions.

I don't think it will be too hard to implement. Sure it's gonna need some work, but it can be done. There are plenty of open-source options that allow creation of PHP and MySQL and get the creations easily on the web.

Xoops is such a piece of software. I'd be willing to help a bit if you need it.

Sure, I could really use the help, especially someone who knows how to that type of coding/database work.

Did you like my examples? I think they work very well. Please email, [email protected] off list. I think a three-four man team would be enough!

Konquest · May 19, 2005, 01:07 AM // 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMThompson

Sure, I could really use the help, especially someone who knows how to that type of coding/database work.

Did you like my examples? I think they work very well. Please email, [email protected] off list. I think a three-four man team would be enough!

I don't really know those languages very well, but I can learn...!

If we do this, we could set up a small forum and take off from there (I know a place... )

Rayne Morgan · May 22, 2005, 04:03 PM // 16:03

I bought red dye for 90g.