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Loviatar · May 14, 2005, 01:47 PM // 13:47

everybody

please make one simple check

go to task manager and click the performance tab and check cpu per cent usage

do this on the games that do not affect your pc temperature and even though i am not the tech support god i am willing to bet that they are not running at 100 percent (or close) usage

anything being run at 100 per cent is going to be warmer than running it at 25 per cent

the computer you bought is supposed to be able to run the programs you use without going poof

note the above person who found that other present generation games with wonderful graphics were just the same on his machine

again i said that GW is cpu intensive that is not a software game flaw

also note the one recent specific case here where the person cleaned out his heatsink and dropped the temp from a pc crashing 75C down to 50 C

how many of those problem pcs have been gathering dust waiting for something to come along and put some stress on them

asking something designed and sold be able to run at 100 % capacity is not unreasonable
blaming the software for exposing poor cleaning or components on the way out is unreasonable

NArrow · May 14, 2005, 02:20 PM // 14:20

The real problem is that the overheating problem NEVER happened until the last update from NCsoft was downloaded and installed. The game ran really well until the last update. Is there anyway to check this out without the last update?

Spec
Ahtlon XP 2500+ (Barton)
3D Rocket-Pro Cooler CPU Fan.
1GB Ram Mushkin DDR400 (2x 512)
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB AGP
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-7VAXP-a Ultra.
400 Watt PSU + 2case fans.
Win Xp Pro SP1.

All this ran very well until the last update was installed. Only had the game for 2 weeks and in 3 days from the last update the game is UNPLAYABLE after 10 to 30 minutes.

The One thing that I found is changing the resolution from 1280x1024 to 1024x768 will make a difference in game time play ... An extra 20minutes before it OVERHEATS!

Kitar · May 14, 2005, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by NArrow

Kitar, Why on earth would you agree with tech support it's an overheating problem when before Guild Wars can along everyones machines were cooling very well and then overnight machine changes to overheating when running GW! All the other games like WOW, Fry Cry and Doom3 that requires higher end reqs don't run into this problem.

Also when tech support tells an user to open the case and direct a fan into the case to cool it down means altering peoples hardware for the sake of thier mistake.

I thought my CPU fan was going bad and I went and spend some $50 to "fixed" this overheating problem. It was installed professionally and took the temp down from 55C to 41C. Did it solve the problem? NO!

Okay put this another way, if a programmer writes some program to control a nuke reactor station and it goes up in smoke do you tell the nuke station it was thier fault or the programmer?

Integrity always breakdown when a problem arises, fingers gets pointed at others to divert the issue elsewhere. Why don't NCSoft issue a statement to everyone that the problem is looked into and backtrack what events may have triggered this problem. That's how my work place does things, investigate the issue and show prove it's not a NCSofts problem!

If a system is overheating, it isnt POSSIBLE that its caused by software.

There is nothing a game company can do to make your computer overheat if its properly cooled.

straitjacket · May 14, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kitar

If a system is overheating, it isnt POSSIBLE that its caused by software.

There is nothing a game company can do to make your computer overheat if its properly cooled.

but it is even the GW techs are telling us this is case. and my cpu only runs at 51% and never goes higher....my card gforce 6800 gets up to 74c and shuts down. The tech i am taling with said it was even happening to a small degree in the beta...IT IS THE GAME SIMPLE AS THAT it casues some process to kick off in the card that cooks it

Lunarbunny · May 14, 2005, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Back to the original question: A simple solution could be to get a PCI slot fan. I think $20 is the general price range, and possibly cheaper.

Madjik · May 14, 2005, 09:02 PM // 21:02

simple question no more. Im using a GeForce 6800 as well, yet my card doesnt overheat when i play. Why is this? Im not pointing fingers or choosing sides straitjacket, but the only data I have to go off of is my own system and the experiment i ran early this morning. Is it really the game? ....I'm not so sure.

Kitar · May 14, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by straitjacket

but it is even the GW techs are telling us this is case. and my cpu only runs at 51% and never goes higher....my card gforce 6800 gets up to 74c and shuts down. The tech i am taling with said it was even happening to a small degree in the beta...IT IS THE GAME SIMPLE AS THAT it casues some process to kick off in the card that cooks it

Actually no, its not simple as that. Your Geforce 6800 is equiped with a feature caused "clock throttling".

This slows down the card to prevent overheating. If the card is getting to 74c, you've got BIG problems that have nothing to do with this game.

I'd get it fixed ASAP

straitjacket · May 15, 2005, 03:31 AM // 03:31

I am wondering why the temp only climbs anywhere near that high with GW only..nothing else only GW The second i drop out of the game the temp drop to about 53

Madjik · May 15, 2005, 05:19 AM // 05:19

It is a good question. Seems to me that there are just as many having the problem as not. There are several possibilites, bad airflow caused by dust, or case layout, components, placement of fans, perhapes the game itself...

perhapes not. Who can say.

All i can say is tech support knows about it, and are undoubtably working on figuring out what it is, after they've done that they will try to fix it, and once they've done that, they will anounce it.

It seems to me that for as many as ARE having the problem, there seem to be at least as many who ARENT. My suggestion is everyone who is having the problem report it, enough reports and they will push twords a solution harder. The more reports they get the sooner they will have to say somthing about it. You can only get so many before you realize that somthing IS happening....or isnt.

At any rate i dont think this is really getting us anywhere.

SSE4 · May 15, 2005, 07:31 AM // 07:31

Via the cards own menus, it's slowdown threshold is about 109C. You have nothing to worry about. Although cleaning the system out is always a good idea. VGAs consistently handle (And run at) higher temperatures than CPUs and other components on the computer.

It shouldn't be crashing due to temperature-related issues. You should clean out your system and check the temperature of other components.

NArrow · May 15, 2005, 07:59 AM // 07:59

It seems I have done all I can, following all the 'good' cleaning advises and even 'spend unneccesary' money on overheating devices. I have pretty much a new system that functions as before, but 10C cooler (from 50C to 40C) and now waiting for a GOOD solution from NCsoft.