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Dark178 · Jun 04, 2005, 07:19 AM // 07:19

My current computer is just too old to upgrade so i found this deal. What do u think?

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor w/ HT Technology (3GHz, 800 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
256MB DDR SDRAM at 400MHz
40GB3 Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive
Single Drive: 48x CD-RW Drive
FREE UPGRADE! 15 in (15.0 in viewable) E153FP Analog Flat Panel

for$448 and it comes with sound card and all that other stuff

But after i get it i'm putting 1gb of ram and a ATI radeon 9200 or something

EDIT - Ok this is what i'm doing after i buy it and upgrade it

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor w/ HT Technology (3GHz, 800 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
1GB of ram
40GB3 Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive
Single Drive: 48x CD-RW Drive
ATI Radeon 9200 or 9600
My 18inch flat panel

Principa Discordia · Jun 04, 2005, 07:24 AM // 07:24

To be honest, 256mB is very low. 512mB is pretty much the minimum you need to get any gaming done these days, especially so because Windows is a resource hog.

Did they tell you what graphics card comes with the PC?

Dark178 · Jun 04, 2005, 07:28 AM // 07:28

I know its low ram but i dont want to pay an extra 170 bucks for 1gb of ram to come with the computer, thats why i said after i get it i will upgrade it. And the graphics card that comes with it doesnt matter kuz i'm upgrading that too. ^^

Principa Discordia · Jun 04, 2005, 07:51 AM // 07:51

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Originally Posted by Dark178

I know its low ram but i dont want to pay an extra 170 bucks for 1gb of ram to come with the computer, thats why i said after i get it i will upgrade it. And the graphics card that comes with it doesnt matter kuz i'm upgrading that too. ^^

I understand that you intend to upgrade the machine some time in the future, but if you want my opinion you'd actually be saving yourself a small sum by getting the machine with 512mB and a Radeon 9200 already in it. Not to mention that it'll save you a ton of headaches when it comes to running Guild Wars.

I'd never suggest running this game on a machine with 256mB RAM and a graphics card, it would probably be a nightmare. Just another thing worthy of mention, a 3GHz P4 would be bottlenecked with a Radeon 9200, so you could save yourself a tidy sum there also by selecting a slightly lower-class processor (but not too low).

Just my 2¢ overall, but I think you'd be wise to consider it.

Dark178 · Jun 04, 2005, 07:56 AM // 07:56

Actutally i wont be saving kuz upgrade to 512 is an extra 70bucks...and i can get 1 gb for 70-100bucks and graphics card wise...nvm

I'm not stupid...Its a deal that dell has...I'm just getting it mostly for the front bus speed and 3ghz and the windows xp. If i could i wouldnt get any ram or graphics card with it.

Principa Discordia · Jun 04, 2005, 07:58 AM // 07:58

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Originally Posted by Dark178

Actutally i wont be saving kuz upgrade to 512 is an extra 70bucks...and i can get 1 gb for 70-100bucks and graphics card wise...nvm

I'm not stupid...Its a deal that dell has...I'm just getting it mostly for the front bus speed and 3ghz and the windows xp. If i could i wouldnt get any ram or graphics card with it.

I'm just trying to point out that 256mB is far too low, especially with Windows XP. Windows XP needs somewhere in the area of 128mB even when it isn't doing anything.

Guild Wars would literally be crying in agony under it, especially with a 9200 or under.

Dark178 · Jun 04, 2005, 08:14 AM // 08:14

DUDE...I'm not runing gw on 256mb of ram and xp i aint running it on...I dont even have 256mb.. Yah the computer i'm getting will have it but i'm not going to play anything on it till i upgrade it...ATM i play GW on my dads computer kuz mine is 1.2ghz, 512mb ram, 25gb harddrive, geforce2 mx/mx 400...

If i ran anything on just 256mb of ram i would probley just smash my computer kuz its too low and lag and all that bad stuff

edit - now look at my 1st post in this topic...Dont think about price or anything just tell me what u think on how the computer will run GW and etc

Principa Discordia · Jun 04, 2005, 08:17 AM // 08:17

So you're going to buy the PC for something other than Guild Wars? Either way the machine is complete rip-off and won't run much at all without having a coronary.

I tried to be nice. If you didn't want an opinion, you shouldn't have asked.

Edit: Just caught your last message edit and checked post as you said. Comment below.

Principa Discordia · Jun 04, 2005, 08:19 AM // 08:19

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Originally Posted by Dark178

EDIT - Ok this is what i'm doing after i buy it and upgrade it

Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor w/ HT Technology (3GHz, 800 FSB)
Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
1GB of ram
40GB3 Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive
Single Drive: 48x CD-RW Drive
ATI Radeon 9200 or 9600
My 18inch flat panel

Ok, now what I'm saying is this will run Guild Wars just fine, but why buy 256mB RAM etc. now? You'll only have no use for it later.

Buying a machine with 256mB RAM now and then upgrading to 1GB later is still more expensive than buying a machine with 1GB RAM. Dell just like to spread the butter thick when it comes to taking money.

Dark178 · Jun 04, 2005, 08:19 AM // 08:19

lets just clear this up...i dont want to get in a online messageboard fight lol.

256mb of ram is low. but its not cheaper to upgrade it with the computer kuz dell's upgrade is a ripp off. but it will have 1 gb of ram

And my current computer is too weak/old to just upgrade so i gota start from something.

I'm using it for gw and other games.

Principa Discordia · Jun 04, 2005, 08:21 AM // 08:21

Yeah I understand what you're saying now, but either way Dell are soaking up the money. They're really crap.

Maybe you should consider another company.

Dark178 · Jun 04, 2005, 08:21 AM // 08:21

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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia

Ok, now what I'm saying is this will run Guild Wars just fine, but why buy 256mB RAM etc. now? You'll only have no use for it later.

Buying a machine with 256mB RAM now and then upgrading to 1GB later is still more expensive than buying a machine with 1GB RAM.

It wont let u buy it with no ram. and 256 is the basic it comes with.
and guying 1gb of ram 100ish bucks

upgrade to 512 wtih the computer = 70$
upgrade to 1gb with the computer = 170$

Principa Discordia · Jun 04, 2005, 08:22 AM // 08:22

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Originally Posted by Dark178

It wont let u buy it with no ram. and 256 is the basic it comes with.
and guying 1gb of ram 100ish bucks

upgrade to 512 wtih the computer = 70$
upgrade to 1gb with the computer = 170$

Yeh, consider a different company.

Dark178 · Jun 04, 2005, 08:22 AM // 08:22

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Originally Posted by Principa Discordia

Yeah I understand what you're saying now, but either way Dell are soaking up the money. They're really crap.

Maybe you should consider another company.

any ideas? i'm totally open for options kuz i gota wait 2-4weeks befor i can order one anyways

Principa Discordia · Jun 04, 2005, 08:24 AM // 08:24

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Originally Posted by Dark178

any ideas? i'm totally open for options kuz i gota wait 2-4weeks befor i can order one anyways

I've heard good things about Gateway over there, but I don't really trust any of these ripoff companies. Building your own is far cheaper and less of a headache, not to mention you get exactly what you want.