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Sitruc Adus · Jun 13, 2005, 10:06 PM // 22:06

Which is better??? I just got a new PC that can only use a PCI Express card and I am just curious.
Also how does a AMD Athalon 3200+ 64(2Ghz) stack up against a P4?? Again just curious?? I'm a newb when it comes to this tech stuff.

Thanks Sitruc

ElRey · Jun 13, 2005, 11:45 PM // 23:45

Depends.... which P4? It stacks up to it if it is a 3.2 ghz prescott in gaming and is probably better, but not in computing as its operating speed isnt as great as the prescott. AMD+Gaming=win

Sitruc Adus · Jun 13, 2005, 11:53 PM // 23:53

My new PC has the AMD I just wanted to know what that equaled in a Pentium.

Loviatar · Jun 13, 2005, 11:55 PM // 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sitruc Adus

My new PC has the AMD I just wanted to know what that equaled in a Pentium.

better than most of them

Dirkiess · Jun 14, 2005, 12:41 AM // 00:41

If you got an AMD NEW PC why would you be interested in knowing about the P4 and which is better??

I hope this isn't someones attempt at fan boyism and who is better than who thread.

Sounds very much like it to me.

Sitruc Adus · Jun 14, 2005, 12:51 AM // 00:51

NO not at all. Like i said I am new to this stuff. I was always able to tell which pentium was better than which cause they went Pent 1,2,3, and now 4. BUT I have no clue how these new processor go. The AMD i don't know what it is equivalent to in a pentium.

I don't want to change anything. I just want to know so down the line when i read the back of a PC games Req. it always says Pent # first. So I want to know what i have. From the sounds of it i got something better than the current Pent 4.

Sorry if i am aggravating you i don't mean it but I am a total newb at this tech stuff. And i want to know the right answers.

Thanks again.

Dirkiess · Jun 14, 2005, 01:01 AM // 01:01

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Originally Posted by Sitruc Adus

NO not at all. Like i said I am new to this stuff. I was always able to tell which pentium was better than which cause they went Pent 1,2,3, and now 4. BUT I have no clue how these new processor go. The AMD i don't know what it is equivalent to in a pentium.

I don't want to change anything. I just want to know so down the line when i read the back of a PC games Req. it always says Pent # first. So I want to know what i have. From the sounds of it i got something better than the current Pent 4.

Would have made more sense if that was put down first.

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Basically, the way an AMD works with the 2400+, as far as I remember, that is equivalant to the pentium at the same time, in this case the pentium 4 running at 2.4ghz, even though the AMD only runs at 2ghz.
Don't ask me why they did this, but that is what I read a long time ago and as far as i know, it's still the case now.
With regards to gaming, AMD almost always wins out and with what you have, i think for CPU you will be ok for some time to come.

Sitruc Adus · Jun 14, 2005, 01:29 AM // 01:29

thanks again sorry i didn't explain it betterthe first time. Thnks for the info, that does seem weird though with the 2ghz stuff. But hey as long as i'm good for a cvouple of years I'll be happy. Thanks!

Vertical_Zer0 · Jun 14, 2005, 01:45 AM // 01:45

The difference is in how the processors actually do the work. With Intel, the Pentium 4 processor does 4 operations per cycle (meaning it does 4 things per hertz). The AMD Athlon XP/64 processors do 6 operations per cycle. If you do the math, a 2000mhz Athlon XP will turn out to be about equivalent to a 2400-2500mhz P4. It gets more complicated when you move up to Athlon 64, however, because with the A64 processors the memory controller is physically located on the processor itself, rather than being located on the motherboard as per Athlon XP/P4 systems. When you take that into consideration, a 2000mhz Athlon 64 is roughly equivalent to a 3000mhz Pentium 4. There are a few other factors that make up the difference, but these are the main points.

As for the operations per cycle, think of AMD as riding a bike with larger wheels - they get you farther with less pedaling.

Sitruc Adus · Jun 14, 2005, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Wow that was a helpful analogy. It is getting clearer now. I knew this was a better place to ask this question than on Cnet. Those guys never answered me. Thanks guys!

Vertical_Zer0 · Jun 14, 2005, 02:04 AM // 02:04

No problem