Curse

Asmodeth · May 30, 2005, 01:56 AM // 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spartan2

Hey! While you are calling them, why don't you refer them to this thread? It may enlighten them on their problem. If they do not know how to fix it, I will lend my services to them. Eventhough I am only 17 and only 1 years experience with half of the Cisco CCNA certification course, I will try my best in restructuring their infrastructure and IP assignment layout to one that will run smoothly and efficiently. One thing that would work wonders with service and customer support is for the Network Admin to release their schematics for their network layout, but I think their system is so backed up and out of date, that they cannot fix it. What they have is too many people logging into a network with inferior network devices and inferior cabling. They most likely took the cheapest route when deciding what to use instead of the best. Heh, shameless plugs are always my thing.

Sparten I completely agreed with you.

Stukov · May 30, 2005, 02:03 AM // 02:03

Hmm, I just noticed that my connection was "PPPoE Connected." Now, from what I've read, PPPoE seems to be fine? My router had DHCP enabled, so I just turned it off. Going to play GW a bit

AntHill · May 30, 2005, 03:09 AM // 03:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stukov

Hmm, I just noticed that my connection was "PPPoE Connected." Now, from what I've read, PPPoE seems to be fine? My router had DHCP enabled, so I just turned it off. Going to play GW a bit

Can you tell me wtf you did, I want to do the same thing so i can actually play -.-

Final Fantazy · May 30, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Turning off dhcp on your router will not do a thing, since the routers dhcp is just for the computers connected to it, you have to be concerned about verizons dhcp server which you can't touch or mess with it.

aeroclown · May 30, 2005, 06:34 AM // 06:34

Err, I don't want to be argumentative , but the note in the ipconfig application does not relate at all what so ever to if the dhcp server is locally present or not. If ipconfig says that dhcp is not enabled then there is certainly something a foot if your network does use a DHCP method of assigning stack data, in this instance dhcp refers to a service in operation on the local system, a client if you will that interacts with any available DHCP server. By enabled or disabled it means that your system is actively supporting or not supporting the use of the DHC Protocol to retrieve stack configuration data. When it is disabled the system is looking for an assigned, local static ip address, assigned by a network administrator on the terminal. When dhcp services are enabled the computer attempts to actively locate a useable DHCP server to retrieve an ip address as well as the correct addresses of the the primary and secondary DNS Default routes.

PPPoe/DUN connections can utilize different methods of ip assignment that do not require the use of the Dynamic Host Configuration Protocols.

*shrugs*

Burem · May 30, 2005, 06:48 AM // 06:48

I actually have verizon businessline dsl. I've called tech support (one time with the house line by accident and got a rude jackass) multiple times about this issue.

They made me go through the normal procedure (use a different modem, go directly into the modem) wich didn't fix it.

So I called them again.. and they're claiming that my VOIP phoneline just takes up far too much bandwith (it's not the VOIP service they offer.. wich is probably why they claim this)... On tuesday they're updating my connection (apparently they switched their standard service to a higher amount of bandwith but they don't upgrade unless you ask.. wtf?). I wonder what new excuse they will have when that dosen't fix it.

Spartan2 · May 30, 2005, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Aeroclown, this is how the DHCP thing works in text graphics
[_]-----(X)---------{DHCP}
[_] is your computer
(X) is your router and the last is obviously the DHCP server
from [_] to (X) is one network - network (1) - your home network
you're data is traveling into the {DHCP} which is in the Verizon network - network (2) - whatever they say goes because after them is the internet and they are the ones responsible for keeping a list of all the people they let on because if someone hacks into a secured site, such as a government one, they need records of who to pin it on.
At home, you can call yourself whatever you want, Jim, Steve, Kyle, 1337 }{4XX0|2, whatever...
but, when you get to the {DHCP}, like the real world, you are given a name that identifies you to everyone else, it may be the same as the one at home, but chances are others will give you a nickname of their own
That is the layman's terms.... I could have explained all of that in complicated tech gibberish, but I hope that makes it easier to understand

EnDinG · May 30, 2005, 02:18 PM // 14:18

I'm not sure here, but I'll sticky this for now till some kind of issue is resolved, then I'll add it to the index.

Seems a lot of people are having problems here.

Good luck with a solution.

Fendon · May 30, 2005, 02:47 PM // 14:47

Earthlink is offering 19.95/mo right now in the Philly area.....add 15 bucks for a static IP. after that the total cost will be 55/mo (including the static IP). I'm not going to argue with Verizon....I'm just switching.

I was already bugged with getting a dead link at random times throughout the day. Ill be paying 25/mo more than with verizon but for the static IP and twice the bandwidth I'll try it.

Teufel Eldritch · May 30, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04

I am using Verizon DSL & I haven't had any issues. Strange.

C2K · May 30, 2005, 03:28 PM // 15:28

May I ask what region you're all in, so that we can find out exactly what areas are suffering from this. I just want to know if these problems are random or if they are centralized in a certain area(s). I'm in the Northeastern US.

Mortifer Grator · May 30, 2005, 03:47 PM // 15:47

This is a NY/NJ/PA problem with a specific problem localized around a specific group or single bad Verizon router(s).

aeroclown · May 30, 2005, 04:21 PM // 16:21

I know how dhcp works.

I was refering to the statment above about ipconfig. I am more then positive it refers to a local service running on the box, not if a DHCP server is present or not. While I don't have a certifaction of any kind I do work with a rather large scale open source development company and we have to deal with dhcp systems all the time. The notes in ipconfig, ifconfig, and ifw-config respectively refer to whether or not the local box is using the DHCP boot strap to load up the correct ip information on connecting. It does not refer to if a dhcp server exsist locally or not.

I am fully aware of the network paths required for dhc protocols and how they work.

Btw I have no problem with tech gibberish.

Final Fantazy · May 30, 2005, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mortifer Grator

This is a NY/NJ/PA problem with a specific problem localized around a specific group or single bad Verizon router(s).

This issue is also been reported in MA, CA and OR, possible other areas as well.

Burem · May 30, 2005, 06:49 PM // 18:49

I live in MA and I'm having this problem something awful.

Khyron the Dark · May 30, 2005, 07:14 PM // 19:14

It happens here in TX too....

Mortifer Grator · May 31, 2005, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Perhaps Verizon did the same stupid thing in those area too. The pa/ny/nj is related to bad routers. That is why certain high level tier 1 connections CAN stay up, while the others drop if it hops off of verizon's network before it gets to those routers. Everything else is breaking connection. That is why some people report dropping everything except MSN, or some people working for very rich companies manage to keep their VPN's up.

this_barb · May 31, 2005, 01:13 AM // 01:13

what does DHCP release and DHCP renew mean?

DaveM0 · May 31, 2005, 03:40 AM // 03:40

I'm in western PA and have no problems at all with verizon dsl.

LSDaemon · May 31, 2005, 03:59 AM // 03:59

Wow it was a mistake to go with Verizon. I thought Comcast had bad service but my friend with their cable still can play uninterupted. Verizon better fix this or I'm going to throw in with Final and forget Verizon. 15 Minute leases?? Where is the planning? Where's the intelligence, they must have morons on their IT staff.