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Cunning · Sep 22, 2005, 12:31 PM // 12:31

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Originally Posted by User Name

p.p.s firefox is easily the biggest piece of shit the internet has ever seen.

Google search Firefox Exploits

I'd suggest trying out Opera...

This one cracks me up!

You mean the exploit that was fixed several months ago before it affected anyone?

"Proactive security update fixes bug prior to any known exploits"

"Wever and Ferris have kept their exploit code private, and no attacks that take advantage of this flaw have been reported."

Did you even read any of those articles?

I don't really have anything against Opera (except that it's closed source), but it's better than IE. Firefox is simpler, easier to use, has more support, and is very customisable.

I've been using it since the beta and I don't have any traces of spyware, viruses or adware on my PCs. But the main reason I love it so much is because of the HTML and CSS support, because I'm a web developer, you see. Oh, don't forget the very useful extentions.

I recommend anything that doesn't come from IE.

Sorry but I had to rant.

User Name · Sep 22, 2005, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by Cunning

This one cracks me up!

You mean the exploit that was fixed several months ago before it affected anyone?

"Proactive security update fixes bug prior to any known exploits"

"Wever and Ferris have kept their exploit code private, and no attacks that take advantage of this flaw have been reported."

Did you even read any of those articles?

I don't really have anything against Opera (except that it's closed source), but it's better than IE. Firefox is simpler, easier to use, has more support, and is very customisable.

I've been using it since the beta and I don't have any traces of spyware, viruses or adware on my PCs. But the main reason I love it so much is because of the HTML and CSS support, because I'm a web developer, you see. Oh, don't forget the very useful extentions.

I recommend anything that doesn't come from IE.

Sorry but I had to rant.

no..I didn't read any of them. And that exploit was well known it just didn't have any reported incidents. Anyone looking to exploit a web browser knew that exploit existed. The purpose of posting that link was to show how MANY exploits firefox has had in the past. Do the same search for Opera and all you find is links talking about how secure the browser is and how little it is exploited. Firefox is a memory hog and a security problem. It's an awful browser. The fact that firefox IS open source is the root of it's exploitation problems. Firefox is my best friend...anyone running it is a sitting duck.

I wouldn't put any stock in anything backed by AOL....that's just being stupid.

EternalTempest · Sep 22, 2005, 06:35 PM // 18:35

All web browsers have flaws, IE has the most and is most vulnerable. This is mainly due to they way Ms integrates features & has the largest market share so it's the biggest target.

Firefox and Oprea both have vulnerabilities but due to there lower market share there less targets. I personally love fire fox with it's extensions but I do admit it leaks memory over time. Opera is a good alt because it's free now and not a bad browser.

The reason there more safer is for the reason why IE was made and target. As they get more popular they will have hacks against them. IE just has way more frequently and take longer to fix. There is no 100% safe browser out there.

Here's what you should do, Try Firefox (only) for a week, Oprea (only) for a week, and any other browsers out there. Use the one you best like even if it's IE.

Firefox is my choice. Using an alt browser that does not support active x is good if you surf a lot of sites and be safer from spyware/malware installs but see my above statement.

Jakerius · Sep 23, 2005, 08:50 AM // 08:50

Spyware Doctor, but buy it so you can get the full version.
The full version is fantastic, I know the guy who owns PCTools, so he gave me a free registration key

And I haven't used another Spyware Program since.
Wow... I sound like one of those people on TV that they interview, that say they haven't been paid, but so obviously have.

Also, you might want to put your Firewall on, or turn it's security up a notch.

thejynxed · Sep 23, 2005, 11:13 AM // 11:13

And not the Windows XP firewall either, that thing sucks. Get a real firewall like Outpost, Sygate, etc.

PS- Any browser based on IE is really just an IE shell theme. It still has all of the underlying vulnerabilities that IE has on WinXP, since Microsoft was stupid enough to integrate IE directly into the OS, giving it full permission to do what the hell it wants in the system. Hence why IE flaws, even minor ones, are far more serious than in a non-integrated browser.

HOXMAN · Sep 23, 2005, 11:28 AM // 11:28

If you're looking for a good free antivirus software you could try AVG.. http://www.grisoft.com. There is a free home edition. No subscription fees.

EternalTempest · Sep 24, 2005, 04:52 AM // 04:52

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Originally Posted by thejynxed

And not the Windows XP firewall either, that thing sucks. Get a real firewall like Outpost, Sygate, etc.

PS- Any browser based on IE is really just an IE shell theme. It still has all of the underlying vulnerabilities that IE has on WinXP, since Microsoft was stupid enough to integrate IE directly into the OS, giving it full permission to do what the hell it wants in the system. Hence why IE flaws, even minor ones, are far more serious than in a non-integrated browser.

Partially disagree with you, XP built in firewall is very basic but offers some protection. The nice thing is, it hardly conflicts with other running firewalls. I run XP firewall + Sysgate Personal edition and I'm behind a NAT router... hmm that makes me a bit parnoid doesn't it

Xp firewall runs nicely with the free version of ZoneAlrarm to. I do agree to not rely Xp firewall by itself.

thejynxed · Sep 25, 2005, 08:49 AM // 08:49

XP Firewall is worthless because it has no egress filtering. No egress filtering means you are pretty much wide open to anything.